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The constant use of Groomer against TRAs is doing the GC cause harm

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RobynMiller · 04/10/2026 18:59

Just seen this posted by Glinner
https://x.com/Glinner/status/2106504469651579047
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Russell T Davies says I called him "a paedophile and a groomer" in this. It's a lie. I did call him a groomer, because he used Doctor Who to push gender ideology, in which no child would believe unless an adult had planted it in his or her head.

And I just find it disingenuous from him. It's no secret I don't love his decent into more, let's call it, aggressive strategies on social media, but they are now coming home to roost and won't be good for any of us.

The word Groomer has a very specific history when it comes to CSA so to use it as often as he (and other) do and then claim you don't mean it in the very well accepted way is always meant just doesn't sit right with me.

Is there a term we can use that isn't sp precariously close to slandering someone as a Child sex abuser?

Here is the article he is referring to in the tweet

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/oct/03/russell-t-davies-interview-doctor-who-fierce-fandom-love-grief

‘One person turned up at my house’: Russell T Davies on fierce fandom, finding love after grief - and the fear that drives him to keep a knife by the door

He’s the titan of TV who revived a flatlined Doctor Who and turned British queer life into jaw-dropping drama. But the screenwriter’s groundbreaking writing has sometimes made him a target of hate – from homophobes and Whovians alike

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/oct/03/russell-t-davies-interview-doctor-who-fierce-fandom-love-grief

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Shedmistress · 05/10/2026 09:13

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 09:07

Natal females develop earlier & pay less of a social cost for coming out trans than natal males for obvious misogynistic reasons that's concluded why studies show natal males tend to 'come out' more in their post school years & females earlier.

The 'social cost' of men putting a mini skirt on and ferociously rifling through the racks in Primark versus chopping their breasts off and getting early onset baldness.

Oh aye, totally worse for the bloke.

Datun · 05/10/2026 09:15

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 09:12

Something like banning all muslims because a few might be terrorists? Sure I get that bogus logic.

But you don't really believe in safe guarding because if you did you wouldn't be limiting this impractical logic to just toilets but anywhere where men pose a real substantial risk to women including the workplace, educational settings dating & so on.

Or is this regression to Victorian standards what GC's really want hence the GC alignment with the far right on single sex spaces? At leat the far right are honest about it.

We do though. Hence chaperones, and women letting their mates know exactly where they're meeting the bloke and/or taking pictures of his car.

Man have absolutely zero idea exactly how many precautions women take to keep themselves safe. Unsurprisingly.

Abhannmor · 05/10/2026 09:18

BackToLurk · 05/10/2026 08:55

Oh god. Don’t ask. We’ll get 15 pages of bollocks.

Quite. I feel a Butlerian Jihad is imminent...

NotBadConsidering · 05/10/2026 09:18

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Of course it’s possible to be groomed into both incel culture and trans ideology. The Venn diagram of unhappy young men who hate the women they claim to be/claim access to overlaps strongly.

Datun · 05/10/2026 09:19

Monday, transactivists outraged because women are trying to have single sex swimming, and would like a woman only bookclub.

Tuesday, transactivists outraged because women aren't advocating for single sex swimming or women only bookclub.

nutmeg7 · 05/10/2026 09:21

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 09:07

Natal females develop earlier & pay less of a social cost for coming out trans than natal males for obvious misogynistic reasons that's concluded why studies show natal males tend to 'come out' more in their post school years & females earlier.

Bollocks. Bollocks. Bollocks.

There was a sudden thousands of percentage increase in girls presenting at gender clinics as teenagers. Coinciding with the rise of online spaces like Tumblr.

Boys were historically presenting at a younger age. Numbers became swamped by teenaged girls. Not sure how that ties in with girls maturing earlier.

Why are there not similar proportion of older women coming out as “trans”? Where are they all? Now that it’s socially acceptable ‘n’all.

They aren’t there, but they should be if this is just increased social acceptance revealing the “true” levels of “trans ness” in the human population.

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 09:22

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I use 'natal' as a compromise to cis knowing how fragile GC's are to it. What word would you have me use to distinguish the two in conversation? Trans identified male? No dice because respect is a two way street. While I respect your right to your own language you don't get to dictate mine however much you might try to smear it as a sexual perversion.

And this from the 'anti' no debate people.

Shedmistress · 05/10/2026 09:22

Wednesday TRAs advocating for children who are gender non-conforming to have their genitals mutilated

Thursday TRAs haranguing women for being too conservative and not being able to cope with gender non-conformity

RedToothBrush · 05/10/2026 09:23

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 09:12

Something like banning all muslims because a few might be terrorists? Sure I get that bogus logic.

But you don't really believe in safe guarding because if you did you wouldn't be limiting this impractical logic to just toilets but anywhere where men pose a real substantial risk to women including the workplace, educational settings dating & so on.

Or is this regression to Victorian standards what GC's really want hence the GC alignment with the far right on single sex spaces? At leat the far right are honest about it.

I think the day after the Green Party voted in a way which says "we hate Jews", I think the far left possibly shouldn't be throwing stones...

nutmeg7 · 05/10/2026 09:24

RedToothBrush · 05/10/2026 09:23

I think the day after the Green Party voted in a way which says "we hate Jews", I think the far left possibly shouldn't be throwing stones...

Squirrel!

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 09:25

Datun · 05/10/2026 09:15

We do though. Hence chaperones, and women letting their mates know exactly where they're meeting the bloke and/or taking pictures of his car.

Man have absolutely zero idea exactly how many precautions women take to keep themselves safe. Unsurprisingly.

Chaperones in the workplace in schools & dating?

GC ideology is a menace to feminism.

Shedmistress · 05/10/2026 09:26

Women: we just don't want men in our spaces
Men: You bitches whores and nazis, we will fuck you up, die in a grease fire, get guillotined, die TERF cunt
Women: Yeah, that's why
Men: gosh you women are so fragile

Rollingpinofdoom · 05/10/2026 09:28

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 09:22

I use 'natal' as a compromise to cis knowing how fragile GC's are to it. What word would you have me use to distinguish the two in conversation? Trans identified male? No dice because respect is a two way street. While I respect your right to your own language you don't get to dictate mine however much you might try to smear it as a sexual perversion.

And this from the 'anti' no debate people.

nah mate. The only other people I’ve heard referring to “females” with such contempt are Andrew Tate. And his cronies. It’s ok, you can use women and how about, men with a trans identity. Or non-cis men. Better?

you seem very invested in trying to convince women that non-cis men belong in women’s spaces. Why should women give up their right to single sex spaces? What material benefit does allow in non-cis men into their spaces have for women?

Datun · 05/10/2026 09:29

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 09:25

Chaperones in the workplace in schools & dating?

GC ideology is a menace to feminism.

Women have chaperones in a medical setting. Male teachers are discouraged from being alone with children, the doors have windows in them, etc.

Men are a risk. You have to ask yourself why gender ideology is so determined to let men disguise their sex.

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 09:29

nutmeg7 · 05/10/2026 09:21

Bollocks. Bollocks. Bollocks.

There was a sudden thousands of percentage increase in girls presenting at gender clinics as teenagers. Coinciding with the rise of online spaces like Tumblr.

Boys were historically presenting at a younger age. Numbers became swamped by teenaged girls. Not sure how that ties in with girls maturing earlier.

Why are there not similar proportion of older women coming out as “trans”? Where are they all? Now that it’s socially acceptable ‘n’all.

They aren’t there, but they should be if this is just increased social acceptance revealing the “true” levels of “trans ness” in the human population.

Geez I dunno maybe back in the 'olden days' their husbands & fathers would have beat the shit out of them for daring to think that stil has left its vestiges today given they are products of their time. You make it sound as if women always had personal liberty.

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 09:30

Datun · 05/10/2026 09:29

Women have chaperones in a medical setting. Male teachers are discouraged from being alone with children, the doors have windows in them, etc.

Men are a risk. You have to ask yourself why gender ideology is so determined to let men disguise their sex.

Uh Uh Uh.

THE WORKPLACE. MALE TEACHERS. MALE SUITORS.

Crickets.

Datun · 05/10/2026 09:31

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Datun · 05/10/2026 09:32

Geez I dunno maybe back in the 'olden days' their husbands & fathers would have beat the shit out of them

<Gets cloth>

RedToothBrush · 05/10/2026 09:34

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 09:25

Chaperones in the workplace in schools & dating?

GC ideology is a menace to feminism.

Gender Critical feminism IS feminism.

It's not like fake feminism where you put the men first
Or fake inclusivity where you scare the shit out of Jewish people.
Or the definition a Norovirus journalist gave for communism which looks just like ultra capitalism.
Or this progressive man shite that tells women that they've now got equality despite all the evidence to the contrary.

I think there's a lot of people who now see straight through this shite and amazingly manage to not be far right nutjobs either.

But still, I'm sure you will carry on and hijack the entire thread at this point because it's all about you talking over actual women.

Fabulous.

BackToLurk · 05/10/2026 09:35

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DeanElderberry · 05/10/2026 09:35

Choppingwoodcarryingwater · 05/10/2026 08:54

In all my years using the ladies loos I never detected a 'safe guarding' issue (other than natal women peeing all over the toilet seat from refusing to place their rear end on it) from trans women that's why this has probably never been an issue til the trans panic.

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Were you watching women do this? Why? Did they consent to being observed by you? Again, why? Was it a sex game? Why did neither you nor they clean up?

Now that I have been told repeatedly that men have been invading and using the women's facilities for decades, I have come to believe that the occasional wet seat and floor were a gift from those blokes.

DeanElderberry · 05/10/2026 09:36

Left quite deliberately, like male dogs that stop at every lamp-post.

DeanElderberry · 05/10/2026 09:36

Bitches don't behave like that.

Datun · 05/10/2026 09:38

I personally don't think that poster uses ladies toilets. These are all tropes that he's read on here. The way he says it is just regurgitated.

Keeptoiletssafe · 05/10/2026 09:41

In inclusive toilet design videos and lectures from America, hailed as being part of a civil-rights movement, the designers have zone areas. There’s a grooming zone.