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The constant use of Groomer against TRAs is doing the GC cause harm

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RobynMiller · Today 18:59

Just seen this posted by Glinner
https://x.com/Glinner/status/2106504469651579047
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Russell T Davies says I called him "a paedophile and a groomer" in this. It's a lie. I did call him a groomer, because he used Doctor Who to push gender ideology, in which no child would believe unless an adult had planted it in his or her head.

And I just find it disingenuous from him. It's no secret I don't love his decent into more, let's call it, aggressive strategies on social media, but they are now coming home to roost and won't be good for any of us.

The word Groomer has a very specific history when it comes to CSA so to use it as often as he (and other) do and then claim you don't mean it in the very well accepted way is always meant just doesn't sit right with me.

Is there a term we can use that isn't sp precariously close to slandering someone as a Child sex abuser?

Here is the article he is referring to in the tweet

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/oct/03/russell-t-davies-interview-doctor-who-fierce-fandom-love-grief

‘One person turned up at my house’: Russell T Davies on fierce fandom, finding love after grief - and the fear that drives him to keep a knife by the door

He’s the titan of TV who revived a flatlined Doctor Who and turned British queer life into jaw-dropping drama. But the screenwriter’s groundbreaking writing has sometimes made him a target of hate – from homophobes and Whovians alike

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/oct/03/russell-t-davies-interview-doctor-who-fierce-fandom-love-grief

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 19:02

Is this another old old story, because I'm not sure what your point in posting it is.

Helleofabore · Today 19:07

Grooming though, is not just about sexual abuse.

RobynMiller · Today 19:09

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 19:02

Is this another old old story, because I'm not sure what your point in posting it is.

Well you cared to clink on any of the links you will see it was all posted just today. So not an old story and I think I made my intention quite clear, that the use of the word Groomer is harming the GC cause and whether we like it or not Linehan is a very public face of it so him calling/implying people are paedophiles is wrong.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · Today 19:10

Glinner lives rent free in soooo many ppl heads

im sure literally no one in the planet is sat there going "well I've always believed men can't become women but given glinners been a bit of an arse, I've decided to throw reality out the window and suddenly accept that Dave over the road can become davina just he saying he's a woman"

RobynMiller · Today 19:11

Helleofabore · Today 19:07

Grooming though, is not just about sexual abuse.

But the vast, VAST majority is. Do you think RTD is guilty of grooming children?

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RobynMiller · Today 19:12

Theeyeballsinthesky · Today 19:10

Glinner lives rent free in soooo many ppl heads

im sure literally no one in the planet is sat there going "well I've always believed men can't become women but given glinners been a bit of an arse, I've decided to throw reality out the window and suddenly accept that Dave over the road can become davina just he saying he's a woman"

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It's not about people suddenly becoming TRAs it's about all of use being seen as daft lunatics. Not to mention a number of GC people have suddenly started liberally using the R slur again.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 19:14

Are we his sodding keepers all of a sudden?

Theeyeballsinthesky · Today 19:18

RobynMiller · Today 19:12

It's not about people suddenly becoming TRAs it's about all of use being seen as daft lunatics. Not to mention a number of GC people have suddenly started liberally using the R slur again.

The only ppl I've seen use the R slur are Americans/ ppl residing in America where shamefully they've used it as a slur for years

this is very much coming across as a standard "I'm as GC as they come but...." post that we've been inundated with in the last few weeks

Saucery · Today 19:18

The word Woman has a very specific history when it comes to biological reality so to use it as often as he (and other) do and then claim you don't mean it in the very well accepted way is always meant just doesn't sit right with me.

We are not the Jiminy Cricket sat on GL’s shoulder so why are you asking us?

RobynMiller · Today 19:19

Saucery · Today 19:18

The word Woman has a very specific history when it comes to biological reality so to use it as often as he (and other) do and then claim you don't mean it in the very well accepted way is always meant just doesn't sit right with me.

We are not the Jiminy Cricket sat on GL’s shoulder so why are you asking us?

I actually agree with that re-write of my post. Words have meaning and we can't claim the word Woman needs to be respected and then be so lax with others.

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RobynMiller · Today 19:20

Theeyeballsinthesky · Today 19:18

The only ppl I've seen use the R slur are Americans/ ppl residing in America where shamefully they've used it as a slur for years

this is very much coming across as a standard "I'm as GC as they come but...." post that we've been inundated with in the last few weeks

Linehan uses it all the time now, just go to his tweets and I'm sure you'll find it quickly

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AIiswatchingyou · Today 19:20

Thanks for your concern about the gender critical cause.

We're bigger than one person, so we'll be grand.

Soontobe60 · Today 19:22

RobynMiller · Today 19:11

But the vast, VAST majority is. Do you think RTD is guilty of grooming children?

I think anyone who is party to misinforming children that it’s possible to change sex is guilty of grooming children.

Hoardasurass · Today 19:23

How about brainwashing?
Or child abuse?
Grooming is also accurate the same as my suggestions.
The problem people have with the teaching or gender ideology wrightly being called Grooming is that it paints these people in an accurate if very bad light and alerts other people to the harm gender idealogs cause

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · Today 19:24

RobynMiller · Today 19:12

It's not about people suddenly becoming TRAs it's about all of use being seen as daft lunatics. Not to mention a number of GC people have suddenly started liberally using the R slur again.

What's "the R slur"? I've missed it.

Hoardasurass · Today 19:24

RobynMiller · Today 19:11

But the vast, VAST majority is. Do you think RTD is guilty of grooming children?

Yes i do

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 19:25

RobynMiller · Today 19:09

Well you cared to clink on any of the links you will see it was all posted just today. So not an old story and I think I made my intention quite clear, that the use of the word Groomer is harming the GC cause and whether we like it or not Linehan is a very public face of it so him calling/implying people are paedophiles is wrong.

I don't click on links to The Guardian because I won't give them the clicks, the paper is a shoddy parody of what it used to be and not even good enough to line the budgies cage any more.

Only the perpetually offended grievance monkeys, who have a pathological need to critise his every waking minute care what he says.

You don't own the word grooming, you can't decide who gets to use it.

If you object to the 'damage' he's doing to the GC 'cause', then feel free to kick him out, although how you think you're going to do that would be worth listening too. 😂

Saucery · Today 19:26

RobynMiller · Today 19:20

Linehan uses it all the time now, just go to his tweets and I'm sure you'll find it quickly

I find the use of that word abhorrent and I’ll pull people up on it if they use it around me. I won’t stop believing in biological reality just because GL or anyone else uses it, as the two things aren’t connected.

AIiswatchingyou · Today 19:31

RTD is a man with a powerful platform available to him, that allows him to pursue his activism on an international scale - the viewership of his work.

A large part of this viewership is young people and he is actively promoting an anti-scientific, misogynistic, harmful ideology that promotes self hatred, mental confusion, family estrangement and lifelong physical damage.

What word would you like to use for that?

RobynMiller · Today 19:33

AIiswatchingyou · Today 19:31

RTD is a man with a powerful platform available to him, that allows him to pursue his activism on an international scale - the viewership of his work.

A large part of this viewership is young people and he is actively promoting an anti-scientific, misogynistic, harmful ideology that promotes self hatred, mental confusion, family estrangement and lifelong physical damage.

What word would you like to use for that?

TRAs would and have said the same about JK and I call them out as well.

I would call him a liar and propagandist but grooming, with it's implication of sexual abuse, is over the line for me

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IrishScotch · Today 19:36

RobynMiller · Today 19:33

TRAs would and have said the same about JK and I call them out as well.

I would call him a liar and propagandist but grooming, with it's implication of sexual abuse, is over the line for me

Grooming really isn’t just about sexual abuse though. You can groom people for success, you can groom them to follow in your footsteps in a job role or groom them to have far right opinions, for example. It’s a perfectly acceptable word to use.

BackToLurk · Today 19:37

RobynMiller · Today 19:33

TRAs would and have said the same about JK and I call them out as well.

I would call him a liar and propagandist but grooming, with it's implication of sexual abuse, is over the line for me

Do you ‘call them out’? Because all the threads you start seem to be about your ‘concern’ about what a couple of high profile ‘GC’ people tweet.

AIiswatchingyou · Today 19:42

So clearly you're happy with the words you use.

You're not happy with the words Glinner and some others use.

I don't think we need purity of thought, I think we can be a broad church all generally working towards the same aim - that of supporting children and young adults to wear what they like, present how they like - but not damage their bodies for a sexist ideology that aims to make them lifelong patients.

RobynMiller · Today 19:42

BackToLurk · Today 19:37

Do you ‘call them out’? Because all the threads you start seem to be about your ‘concern’ about what a couple of high profile ‘GC’ people tweet.

Yes I do on other websites.

I post what I post her as it is a GC space and I do not want us to lose the hard fought ground we have won in this fight.

To think the fight is over or our victory assured is in my view, naive. High profile GC people are the face of this fight and tweeting is very often their chosen battle ground so what they say should concern all of us.

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CassOle · Today 19:52

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · Today 19:24

What's "the R slur"? I've missed it.

I think it could be 'retarded'.

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