Transgender person elected as Deputy Mayor in Sydney

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If a man can't accept himself, how does he expect others to accept him whilst pretending to be a she.
The world has gone mad, this nonsense needs to stop.
A biological man can never be a woman, a 5 year old knows that, yet many grown adults believe they can.

Stop the world I wanna get off.

I think there have been female deputy mayors in Sydney in the past.

I see there's a transmaiden/TRA on the MN mod team again.

quite a few arbitrary deletions today I've noticed - of posts that when I read them were not violations of the guidelines at all. Unless it's just a lazy newbie who gets a report and just hits delete without reading the actual post.
I can't be arsed to ask why my post went - remember when you used to get an email explaining?
I expect it was that I upset TPA by telling the truth about trans privilege.
I daresay it's "not in the spirit" to upset TRA ploppers by disagreeing with their sexist bullshit.
Or maybe it's because I used the popular trans trope "girl dick" while being female.

Who knows. I didn't break any guidelines. (I wasn't insulting to TPA.) But neither did the other posters I saw deleted today.

Getting sick of this bullshit now.

Clover Moore is a female Lord Mayor of Sydney and has been in the role for decades.

If one has no arguments then it's so much easier to run and tell teacher hit the report button and delete delete delete.

To the monitors on here: why not counter what you don't like with robust evidence and fact?

Point of order: other posters can't just have posts deleted.

Only the mods can make the decision to delete, and they only do that when a post breaks TGs. It's not about the personal opinions of monitors, it's about MNHQs house rules.

Yes, I know.

You've missed the point.

and they only do that when a post breaks TGs

🤣 sure.

Yes, we all suffer from patriarchy (except perhaps the 1% making their billions), but nevertheless I would be cautious in deciding whether to hire someone I felt might hold strident views. On any issue.

I think that would include people who were zealous about politics, left or right, or about religion etc but that would also include potential candidates zealous about gender ideology.

This is based on past experience when I was involved with a small community based organisation and responsible for hiring. For example, I did hire someone who was a proponent of GI, completely inexperienced in the industry but came across well in the interview.

Then once hired, this person set about trying to force changes in the organisation including making the toilets gender neutral, wanting changes to the organisational communications, policy wording etc to also reflect GI views. Changes that were either illegal or would’ve cost a lot of time and money all to suit their particular worldview. They were breathtakingly self centred and seemingly incapable of understanding how the changes they tried to insist on could negatively impact others.

It was tiresome and annoying to have numerous conversations with someone who had not invested any time, knowledge, money or resources into the organisation and yet was detracting from the crucial matter of financial survival. So, yes, I would be cautious in terms of future hires. Once burnt…

@AstonCanKissMyArse summed it up as they'll inevitably expect me to participate in those beliefs / inflict them upon me to a degree and correct or not, I would assume the likelihood of the Deputy Mayor to campaign and take action on an issue that is so clearly central to their identity.

I believe your point was that posts that break TGs should be left to stand and debated rather than deleted.

That's not how MNHQ run their site.

That's only half the story.

MN modding is reactive. Mods only look at posts that are reported, and while the MN guidelines set the rules, judgement as to what exactly crosses the line is often subjective.

Gender Critical Feminists on FWR tend to leave nasty Genderist posts to speak for themselves. We think the transparency is valuable.

Genderists tend to report anything they think they can make a case for. I've certainly been deleted for saying things far far far less offensive than have neen said to or about me.

The Genderist tactic is to quash as much as they can then point to deleted posts which no one can now judge for themselves as "proof" of how awful this board is.

I now screenshot a lot of posts just in case.

I take your point, but I work in a very global industry so there's always been potential for sensitivities between cultures. Generally however we all want to stay in our jobs and work well with colleagues so are all pretty adept at treading carefully around each other and focusing on getting the job done together.

Yes, I can see that it would be completely different for our small organisation vs a global enterprise where the focus is on the work and just by sheer size, it is much more difficult if not impossible to influence a global firm’s policies.

Of course, there are also many trans people for whom identifying as or presenting as the opposite sex doesn’t necessarily translate into proselytising activist. However, I am now more cautious or at least more thoughtful about hiring. Btw, this applies beyond the gender debate.

Have a look at the link below: advice from Australian clothing company about trans rights in public spaces. In that context and with Australian law as it is I think it is a legitimate concern to worry about a man identifying as a woman being in a position to make decisions that are going to have a significant impact on women's and children's safety in public spaces in Sydney. It is a very narrow perspective that I think it is fair to presume the Deputy Mayor would be sympathetic with the advice from this company. This way of thinking about trans rights will I think, in the long run, also do a great disservice to trans identified people.
https://www.transformtranswear.com.au/blogs/articles-resources/your-rights-as-a-trans-woman-in-change-rooms-and-pools-australia?srsltid=AU7gw4VHjKY0ahatmOUr4fXXwzCrf2dvPsSPCfgLrkTQ84HlAldLHHD0

Oh definitely.

The worst I've seen it get was actually around the Brexit vote. I sometimes wonder if the people who are very political at work started work after that time so haven't developed the skills to work well with people you don't see eye to eye with on everything.

The colleague I have most had to bite my tongue around politically was the one running for UKIP. TBF that was mainly because of his personality though 😂Any sniff of disagreement and he would be off on one and not let go. I'm sure other people could have been just as UKIPpy without being as difficult to work with.

Correction of a clunky and nonsensical sentence of mine. Should read: I think it is fair to presume the Deputy Mayor would be sympathetic with the advice from this company. The advice displays a narrow perspective, namely, Trans Rights trump all other rights.