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In light of the whole arts world supporting Macklemore over his censorship, who in the music industry supported Róisín Murphy?

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MarcTheGenderSkeptic · Today 09:43

To her, I could add who in TV over Linehan, dance over Rosie Kay?
Sure, JKR is too big to be cancelled, but I didn't see any writers flock to her side.
I'm sure I've missed a few.
So, pressure put on Eddie Sheeran to drop Macklemore for his overtly political Free Palestine! chants, banners etc.
Hey, I may not share his politics, but I don't believe in censorship.
But as the wave of support comes in for him, and let's face it, this cancellation can only boost his career, I'm right now asking where was the wave of anti-censorship support for Róisín Murphy a few years back, when <her own record label!> cancelled her?
Macklemore walks into his next gig next week, his artist-activist credentials burnished, his opportunities to boost his career scaled up.
Róisín? She was at existential risk of career collapse.
Rosie Kay? Did the dance community in any meaningful way support her freedom to speak up? Highlight the iniquity of her losing the school shed sweated to build?
Linehan? Well, he really is a salutary lesson in the Age Of Scolding.
I know I've missed a few.
And of course multiples more women in lesser positions, cancelled from running maternity classes, as Green party candidates (I know one personally), from sports teams, etc etc, all of them invaluable in their fields, but cancelled or silenced via threat of cancellation.
So, while I see the Macklemore cancellation as poor in an apparently freedom-valuing West, I know this is in effect arbitrary. He isn't being dropped by his record label, all venues not touching him, activists working to bury him. If he ran a singing school, he wouldn't have it taken from him. If he was a writer for TV, he wouldn't have all opportunities for a decade denied him, true poison pen culture behind his back and to his face.
So I ask, why when Macklemore gets a prime gig cancelled, the whole arts/activist/Omnicause world lifts him up, yet when Róisín/Rosie/Graeme get cancelled, the rest of the mass bear down in them?
Of course, we all know the answer. I'm just finding I need to articulate what I see as a hypocritical world doubling down.

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 15:19

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · Today 14:30

Have you just rolled out of bed?

More like the woodwork. 🤮

AprilMizzel · Today 15:22

I think there a time and place for comments about Palestine - which TBH many of us agree with.

A political rally a supporter event even in a news article or interview - he made them at a music concert in a country with a large jewish population and heated poltical atmosphere where audence had paid to watch music not poltcial commentary. He knew it would cause blacklash could have predicted the areans and promoters in that system may feel need to do something back.

There another patten I've noticed and seen articles about where more seasoned professionals in art world trying to help out up and coming and the up and comming stabbing them in the back with omicause stuff - and then act like backlash on seaosned professional is nothing to do with them and are suprised they are upset.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 15:27

which TBH many of us agree with.

Speak for yourself, I know quite a few who don't.

EasternStandard · Today 15:27

BackToLurk · Today 15:18

This Macklemore?

What on earth was he thinking.

BackToLurk · Today 15:29

EasternStandard · Today 15:27

What on earth was he thinking.

Macklemore appears to be one of those terribly unlucky anti-racists, like Jeremy Corbyn, who just keeps on being accidentally antisemitic. Not sure what Sheeran expected tbh.

roxyro · Today 15:47

The ones the OP mentioned aren’t voicing support for the right side are they? Celebrities will always queue up to support the latest cause célèbre - publicly that is. I’m disappointed in Ed for caving in but he was in a very difficult position and I really hope he totally blanks every single one of his so called friends over this.

EasternStandard · Today 15:50

As for Ed Sheeran he got himself into a pickle due to inviting Macklemore, now in a career threatening situation has had to say something.

Artist management everywhere beware of doing the same.

PriOn1 · Today 15:50

noblegiraffe · Today 12:00

Ed Sheeran was on stage last night saying that people he thought were his friends, and even his own family have backed off from him, and don't want to be seen with him. Which is pretty fucking terrible when his 'appalling behaviour' was to not cancel concerts that loads of his fans had paid lots of money to get to.

Hearing the extremes of those on the “right side of history” is something I’m finding deeply depressing.

I don’t know how the western world has reached this point, but the level of intolerance is disturbing. Family and friends deserting those they see as blasphemous, even to the point where they persecute those who choose to say nothing.

Whatever happened to tolerance and loyalty? I’m not sure I want to be alive in the world as it is now.

AimsAndObjectives · Today 15:58

BackToLurk · Today 15:18

This Macklemore?

The 'fancy dress' that he said was 'just random'.
Hatred of Jewish people in plain sight.

Shedmistress · Today 16:12

Roisin Murphy...homophobic?

Whatchoo talkin bout Willis?

Heard it all now! Ive followed Roisin since Tight Sweater and this never happened.

Shedmistress · Today 16:13

BackToLurk · Today 15:18

This Macklemore?

I mean that looks kinda racist.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · Today 16:18

Shedmistress · Today 16:13

I mean that looks kinda racist.

No, those Cali boys in Sombreros were racist. Not Macklemore.
Just like Bob Vylan calling out "kill the IDF" didn't actually mean kill Jews. Oh no.

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