Gender-fluid police given male and female warrant cards

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Forces including those in Suffolk, Norfolk and Leicestershire confirmed they had issued more than one card to officers who said they identified as both male and female. ...

Norfolk and Suffolk, which have combined HR and support departments, have a Trans Equality at Work policy that states:

“Transitioning individuals are likely to want their warrant cards and staff identity cards updated. These may need to be updated more than once to reflect an individual’s physical changes.

“The organisation will be able to issue dual or multiple cards for those who are transitioning or are gender-fluid if this is specifically requested.

“If an individual does transition fully to their chosen gender then they must relinquish their dual cards so that a single card can be issued in their chosen identity. Individuals transitioning may also want to change their collar or pay number, and should be consulted as to their preference.”

The policy also allows officers to “wear items that assist in their gender confirmation/identity according to their needs, eg wearing a wig, prosthetics, binders” and warns officers against “dead-naming” their colleagues.

It follows guidance in 2018, written by Stonewall in partnership with the NPCC, which stated that “individuals who identify as gender-fluid may require two cards to reflect their gender on different days”.

The guidance has since been removed from the NPCC website. A spokesman confirmed that the organisation did not have any live guidance on the issue.

Some forces have refused to issue multiple cards. South Yorkshire Police said that it would not do so for “security reasons”.

Harry Miller, a former police officer and founder of the campaign group Fair Cop, told The Telegraph: “Allowing an officer to be a man one day and a woman the next is one of the stupidest things that I have heard. ...

Just a few paragraphs from a much longer article at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/23/gender-fluid-police-given-male-and-female-warrant-cards/

Also at https://archive.is/e9Q1q

Fucking ridiculous. It’s scary really. These people are supposed to uphold law and order, implement the law, and protect society.

But here’s a card so a man can strip search a woman on a Tuesday if they feel like it. Yay

Not only is it stupid, and do wonder how whoever administrates these has to verify it is a "valid" request.

Added to which there is no legal status such as gender fluid or whatever.

There is no basis for employers to comply with this. Any more than if one day I wanted to come to work as an Orc or an Ent, or a different type of furry each day.

Yet more fallout from all those who fell and paid for Stonewall training.

Schrödinger's gender. It's both equivalent to biological sex and not, at the same time...

Three police forces allow gender-fluid officers multiple warrant cards

https://www.thetimes.com/article/e6f71f1a-db1a-47eb-82e6-5931aa2f19b0?shareToken=26617b92ef6534fee695f0ec0254551e

Also in The Times. Same insane story.

I hope it gets reported in the wider press, though it probably won’t. It’s the kind of arrant stupidity that makes normal people go WTF.

Anyone who can't make up their minds whether they are a man or a woman should not be a police officer.

Where have all these gender fluids come from now. This ideology has really shown up how people will do and go along with any mad ideas just to keep the peace. “No” is actually an ok word to use when it’s appropriate.

If you claim to be a man one day and a woman the next, you're completely unsuitable to be a police officer or to work in any place where you'll come into contact with children.

It follows guidance in 2018, written by Stonewall in partnership with the NPCC, which stated that “individuals who identify as gender-fluid may require two cards to reflect their gender on different days”.

Stonewall not in the bin yet, then? Honestly, they just need to get on with catching criminals, or better yet, preventing crime. That's what we want.

What nonsense is this? I had to double-check that this wasn't a zombie thread - it reads like something from several years ago!

If a man claiming to be police officer showed me a female officer's warrant card, it would not occur to me that he was trans police officer and that I had to go along with his LARPing. No, I would think that he was LARPing - badly - as a police officer and report him for committing a crime.

(TBH, being a FWR MNer, I would probably realise which LARPing he was doing, but I suspect most people would not, especially older people.)

So is it a game of chess?

They say woman, so I say I'm a man? Flip flop all the way home.

Amen to this!

The implications of this in the light of cases such as Sarah Everard are pretty terrifying. If a male police officer shows his 'female' warrant card to a lone woman in order to carry out a bogus search/arrest, my guess is that some women would be more likely to comply. Particularly if the officer is at first glance more 'passing'.

After all the scandals some forces have brought upon themselves due to violent misogyny in their ranks you'd think they wouldn't touch this with a bargepole.

Ah, but they’ve got an official card. You don’t. So ner-ner-n’ner-ner!

It's the non-binary trend gathering momentum. It's no longer interesting or edgy enough to be trans-identified. It's becoming passé, it's not supported in law the way that activists wish it were (although people who are "gender reassigned" whatever that means are protected from discrimination under the EA 2010), and it's becoming what "old people" are (many Gen Z "kids" are rapidly approaching 30, and Gen A kids seem to be less intrigued by "trans").

Non-binary seems to be the identity of choice at the moment, leading on from "Trans+" (although it's not protected in law), and is an easier way to signal your virtye/allyship without actually having to do anything at all.

Some activists appear to be pushing the non-binary angle as a way of getting around the law and EHRC guidance. It's one to watch.

Even leaving aside gender issues, how can anyone think that multiple warrant cards for multiple identities is a good idea?

Norfolking clue , Suffolking ridiculous and Leicestershirely you can't be serious.

It's so ridiculous it should be funny, but it's really not.

How would it work in the Police computer systems? Do they have two identities. So any investigations they/them are involved with would it appear that they/them are two different officers. It might affect apparent man personpower. That more officers are assigned to a case then there actually are. That PC ACDCa was backed up by PC ACDCb but it was all actually the same plod. It might make electronic records very misleading not to mention confusing.

Or are the Police systems rewritten to account for this nonsense? That's not cost free.

Are they/them issued with two sets of uniform?

Very good points. Dare we surmise that the police haven't considered these issues at all? Well, FAFO, once they realize that squaring this circle is not only against the law, but is impossible.

I know there have to be people in the police forces who have brains. Now, we shall see if any if them have the courage to stand up to unhinged, male activists.

Any police officer who thinks he or she can demand to become whichever sex he or she chooses on any given day, and then switch back again, is not acting in good faith or supporting their communities in good faith. That person is thinking solely about his/herself.

So far away from "policing by consent" that they might as well be on another planet.

https://www.norfolk-pcc.gov.uk/news/police-and-crime-commissioners-update-on-gender-fluid-warrant-cards/

Thank you - that's reassuring.
Of course that should have been the immediate response from all the chief constables involved if they weren't signed up to Stonewall and the extreme trans lobby. What an embarrassment they all are to policing

Well that is good to hear. And it being said it such a straight forward and BS about not treading on any toes!

“I will continue, as Police and Crime Commissioner, to make sure this is the case and to challenge these absurdities if and when they arise.”

Well that’s refreshing!

Today, in a meeting with Deputy Chief Constable Marshall I was told that the policy was introduced a number of years ago prior to the supreme court hearing.

Have I misunderstood or do they really think that the FWS case has a bearing on whether police officers should have multiple IDs?

It’s not even clear that they would be covered by the PC of gender reassignment if they are switching back and forth.