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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JKR offers to fund any nurse or female patient legal fees

175 replies

Imdunfer · 10/08/2026 14:54

JKR, in the wake of health authorities failing to implement the single sex space laws, has offered to fund the legal case of any female nurse or patient who wants to sue their health authority.

I love that woman!

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lifeinthelastlane · Yesterday 12:49

MintBird · Yesterday 10:35

So can we make a list of who is getting sued so far using Jo's money?

Park run, Amnesty international, Girl guides, The NHS

And suing all of them is a good thing for benefitting society and everyday people?

Idea- if she has so much money why not, instead of trying to take money from the NHS which could harm everyone, she donates to the NHS so they can build additional toilets? For example more Unisex toilets in addition to men's and women's which trans people could use? Lots of European countries commonly use unisex facilities.

This is also cartoon-villain territory at this point. "I'll sue the NHS and the world's largest human rights org to spite those trans people and I don't care if people who need them get harmed!".

If anyone is wondering btw what Amesty Int. do:
www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/

She's donated buckets of money to the NHS.
Why is extra toilets her responsibility?

Helleofabore · Yesterday 12:52

This is also cartoon-villain territory at this point. "I'll sue the NHS and the world's largest human rights org to spite those trans people and I don't care if people who need them get harmed!".

Fuck yes it is cartoon-villain territory… that you made that deplorably false statement about what she has actually said.

It is so ridiculously your own cartoon-villain prejudice misrepresenting what she has said, it is quite absurd.

BackToLurk · Yesterday 13:00

@TransParentlyAnnoyed

"You approve of taking money from an institution which can't pay for sexually abused kids to have psychiatric counselling?

Which practices corridor care because there's no cash to pay for extra staff?"

I had a relative who killed himself while on a psychiatric ward. The local NHS trust was sued by his close family. I absolutely approve of 'taking money from' organisations who don't safeguard the people they are supposed to be looking after. HTH.

nicepotoftea · Yesterday 13:20

MintBird · Yesterday 10:35

So can we make a list of who is getting sued so far using Jo's money?

Park run, Amnesty international, Girl guides, The NHS

And suing all of them is a good thing for benefitting society and everyday people?

Idea- if she has so much money why not, instead of trying to take money from the NHS which could harm everyone, she donates to the NHS so they can build additional toilets? For example more Unisex toilets in addition to men's and women's which trans people could use? Lots of European countries commonly use unisex facilities.

This is also cartoon-villain territory at this point. "I'll sue the NHS and the world's largest human rights org to spite those trans people and I don't care if people who need them get harmed!".

If anyone is wondering btw what Amesty Int. do:
www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/

I think you might need to catch up on Amnesty's more recent activities.

Leaving aside the hallucinated information on Beira's Place et al, Ruth Hunt, ex CEO of Stonewall is a member of one of the black listed organisations. It's just the all party Christian Group for people in Parliament, but presumably the report writer just saw the word 'Christian' and assumed they were malign. It's a sloppy report that wouldn't pass muster as a school project.

This matters not just for the organisations affected, but for Amnesty who by attempting to bury this incident undermine all their other operations. Why take them seriously on torture in other countries if they can't even google 'Christians in Parliament'?

Beira's place has asked for an apology, that the report be withdrawn, and an external investigation.

Do you not think that that is the minimum that Amnesty need to do to protect their reputation?

For example more Unisex toilets in addition to men's and women's which trans people could use?

Trans people can already use men's and women's toilets. If they are permitted to use to opposite sex toilets the toilets just become mixed sex. You could attempt to segregate toilets by gender, but as gender is a personal concept, you wouldn't be able to exclude anyone, so they would just be mixed sex.

You could make all toilets mixed sex, but you would have to change building regulations. If you are interested in understanding why we have public single sex toilets, you should look up posts by Keeptoiletssafe

Is JKR taking Parkrun to court? Do you not think that if they are providing comparative data, it should be of as much value to women as to men?

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · Yesterday 14:38

This from @akkakk is so astute and clear, I think it deserves to be said again:

the decision to be in the place where an organisation is breaking the law is that organisation's decision

And this is why we should, and we will, sue. If things don't change drastically in the next 15 years, I fully expect to be one of those who use JKR's fund to take a law-breaking NHS or NHS-supported care org. to court.

If they don't want to be sued, whoever they are, the solution is very simple: OBEY THE LAW.

(BTW this is something that everyone understood until about 10 years ago. Now it's just "so complicated." Bullshit. People who use their phones while driving know very well they're breaking the law, but they do it because they think they'll get away with it.)

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · Yesterday 14:39

lifeinthelastlane · Yesterday 12:49

She's donated buckets of money to the NHS.
Why is extra toilets her responsibility?

Because Mummy Should Fix It.
Trantrum 101.

SodThisHeadache · Yesterday 14:56

I am all for suing an institution that was complicit in the rape of a mentally ill woman, by placing her in a male psychiatric ward, because she said she was a man. I'm all for them facing the actual consequences of their slavish adherence to ideology, not what is in the best interests of a patient:

"An NHS trust deliberately obstructed a police investigation into the rape of a transgender patient on an all-male secure psychiatric ward. Male patients chanted “no Adam’s apple” when the 5ft 3in biological female arrived on the ward and within an hour the victim was raped in a cupboard. The South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust ignored dozens of requests for records from detectives investigating the attack. Staff accidentally forwarded an internal note saying “don’t give them any more”. The obstructive behaviour meant a mentally ill patient wrongly stood trial for the rape."

https://x.com/ProfAliceS/status/2057004208499339659

Professor Alice Sullivan (@ProfAliceS) on X

Absolutely horifying. "An NHS trust deliberately obstructed a police investigation into the rape of a transgender patient on an all-male secure psychiatric ward. Male patients chanted “no Adam’s apple” when the 5ft 3in biological female arrived on t...

https://x.com/ProfAliceS/status/2057004208499339659

impossibletoday · Yesterday 15:10

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JKR offers to fund any nurse or female patient legal fees
MintBird · Yesterday 15:32

nicepotoftea · Yesterday 13:20

I think you might need to catch up on Amnesty's more recent activities.

Leaving aside the hallucinated information on Beira's Place et al, Ruth Hunt, ex CEO of Stonewall is a member of one of the black listed organisations. It's just the all party Christian Group for people in Parliament, but presumably the report writer just saw the word 'Christian' and assumed they were malign. It's a sloppy report that wouldn't pass muster as a school project.

This matters not just for the organisations affected, but for Amnesty who by attempting to bury this incident undermine all their other operations. Why take them seriously on torture in other countries if they can't even google 'Christians in Parliament'?

Beira's place has asked for an apology, that the report be withdrawn, and an external investigation.

Do you not think that that is the minimum that Amnesty need to do to protect their reputation?

For example more Unisex toilets in addition to men's and women's which trans people could use?

Trans people can already use men's and women's toilets. If they are permitted to use to opposite sex toilets the toilets just become mixed sex. You could attempt to segregate toilets by gender, but as gender is a personal concept, you wouldn't be able to exclude anyone, so they would just be mixed sex.

You could make all toilets mixed sex, but you would have to change building regulations. If you are interested in understanding why we have public single sex toilets, you should look up posts by Keeptoiletssafe

Is JKR taking Parkrun to court? Do you not think that if they are providing comparative data, it should be of as much value to women as to men?

ah yes, Amnesty Int. called groups whose one and only purpose is being anti-trans, anti-rights groups. Like it or not, they aren't wrong and I don't see why they should be on their knees begging Jo for an apology (almost as if Jo is getting a power kick out of using her money to threaten lawsuits).

"It's just the all party Christian Group for people in Parliament"

What year is this again? 2026 or 1956?

FlirtsWithRhinos · Yesterday 15:43

MintBird · Yesterday 10:35

So can we make a list of who is getting sued so far using Jo's money?

Park run, Amnesty international, Girl guides, The NHS

And suing all of them is a good thing for benefitting society and everyday people?

Idea- if she has so much money why not, instead of trying to take money from the NHS which could harm everyone, she donates to the NHS so they can build additional toilets? For example more Unisex toilets in addition to men's and women's which trans people could use? Lots of European countries commonly use unisex facilities.

This is also cartoon-villain territory at this point. "I'll sue the NHS and the world's largest human rights org to spite those trans people and I don't care if people who need them get harmed!".

If anyone is wondering btw what Amesty Int. do:
www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/

Out of interest, why do you feel it's JKR's responsibiity to fund provisions for trans people and not organisations like Stonewall and Pride and Mermaids and a myriad of smaller groups who have collectively taken millions of pounds in donations and grants specifically to support trans people either specifcally as trans charities or collectively within LGBT support?

I mean, look at cancer charities. Among many other things like research they literally fund and provide cancer support in NHS hospitals.

Got to admit, given the incredible high visibility and media, goverment and corporate support LBGT and trans causes have had for the last twenty years or so, if TRAs think they will do better asking their bete noir JKR for help than their actual charities, that gives said charities a very strong You Had One Job vibe!

NoWordForFluffy · Yesterday 15:51

Maaate · Yesterday 11:48

I was thinking more of the bundlemeister myself 🤔

Ooh. Yes. Good shout! (FFS, don't mention the bundles!) 😬🤣

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · Yesterday 16:02

NoWordForFluffy · Yesterday 15:51

Ooh. Yes. Good shout! (FFS, don't mention the bundles!) 😬🤣

I think that might count as one and a half so far!

nicepotoftea · Yesterday 16:15

MintBird · Yesterday 15:32

ah yes, Amnesty Int. called groups whose one and only purpose is being anti-trans, anti-rights groups. Like it or not, they aren't wrong and I don't see why they should be on their knees begging Jo for an apology (almost as if Jo is getting a power kick out of using her money to threaten lawsuits).

"It's just the all party Christian Group for people in Parliament"

What year is this again? 2026 or 1956?

Do you not think that Christians should be allowed to have a group in Parliament? There are groups representing a huge range of faiths, beliefs and interests. Is it that you have a particular gripe against religion or do you just not think Amnesty should support freedom of conscience any more?

Are you maybe posting from outside the UK and assuming that this group is led by the religious right? The religious right isn't really a force in UK politics.

Marsha de Cordova is one of the three officers of the group. and she has voted to de-criminalise abortion and to protect those accessing clinics from harassment and is a prominent member of the Socialist Campaign Group. I think she is also generally regarded as a trans ally.

Leaving all that aside, if you are surprised that there is a Christian Group in Parliament, you will be flabbergasted to learn that there are actual Church of England bishops in the House of Lords, and they voted against decriminalisation of abortion (despite being generally regarded as left wing and 'woke' these days).

https://www.churchofengland.org/media/news-and-press-releases/abortion-law-changes-bishops-take-part-house-lords-debate

But this actual structural power was completely ignored by the Amnesty report.

They also mysteriously black listed English and Welsh Catholic Bishops (although Catholics famously not part of UK government), but ignored Scottish Catholic Bishops. (Are they now pro-choice?)

Anyone genuinely concerned for Amnesty's reputation would want to understand how such a flawed report came to be written.

Abortion law changes: Bishops take part in House of Lords debate | The Church of England

Archbishop Sarah and 10 other bishops take part in late night sitting in the House of Lords to debate proposed changes to abortion law.

https://www.churchofengland.org/media/news-and-press-releases/abortion-law-changes-bishops-take-part-house-lords-debate

Helleofabore · Yesterday 16:59

This seems like a good reminder for when posters make claims about anti-‘rights’.

https://x.com/thearbourist/status/2034625446784958710?s=46

“When one group’s ‘rights’ require another group to surrender privacy, fairness, or conscience, the conflict is no longer about equality. It is about power.”

”The smartest move activists made was rhetorical: they stopped arguing for contested demands and started calling them “rights.” After that, dissent could be recoded as cruelty, and ordinary objections could be treated as moral failure.”

Female spaces were not built out of bigotry. They were built because sex differences are real, and privacy, safety, and fairness matter. Calling those boundaries hateful does not refute them. It just bullies people into silence.

A demand for equality says: leave me free. A demand for compliance says: you must affirm, yield, and rearrange your world around me. Too much of this debate is presented as the first when it is plainly the second.

This is part of a longer read.

https://deadwildroses.com/2026/03/19/boundary-violations-rebranded-as-rights/

The Arbourist (@TheArbourist) on X

“When one group’s ‘rights’ require another group to surrender privacy, fairness, or conscience, the conflict is no longer about equality. It is about power.” #transrights #femaleboundaries #rights #language https://t.co/2FMFGAGs1O

https://x.com/thearbourist/status/2034625446784958710?s=46

SodThisHeadache · Yesterday 17:03

MintBird · Yesterday 15:32

ah yes, Amnesty Int. called groups whose one and only purpose is being anti-trans, anti-rights groups. Like it or not, they aren't wrong and I don't see why they should be on their knees begging Jo for an apology (almost as if Jo is getting a power kick out of using her money to threaten lawsuits).

"It's just the all party Christian Group for people in Parliament"

What year is this again? 2026 or 1956?

Ruth Hunt, ex-head of LGBT charity Stonewall (well to be precise it was LGB when she first took over but then the T was added under her leadership - lobbied by groups such as The Beaumont Society - an org. for cross dressing men and their wives), is a member of that very Parliamentary Christian Group. She's in the House of Lords now after undermining the very rights of women (including lesbians) like her, and coming close to destroying Stonewall.

Obvious anti-trans bigot, right there, eh?

akkakk · Yesterday 17:07

MintBird · Yesterday 15:32

ah yes, Amnesty Int. called groups whose one and only purpose is being anti-trans, anti-rights groups. Like it or not, they aren't wrong and I don't see why they should be on their knees begging Jo for an apology (almost as if Jo is getting a power kick out of using her money to threaten lawsuits).

"It's just the all party Christian Group for people in Parliament"

What year is this again? 2026 or 1956?

okay then - for the 117 groups (or whatever number it is) listed by Amnesty International - you should have no problem showing for each of them how their one and only purpose is being anti-trans

okay - let's make it easier - for any 1 of those groups - prove that their one and only purpose is being anti-trans...

come on - can't be too hard...
sorry, you are mumbling - can't hear you properly
what is that you are saying?
Ahhh - you can't - not surprised...

I think you will find it is 2026 - where despite your dislike of it - tolerance and free speech is allowed - the idea of a group of Christians in parliament in a 'Christian country' is hardly all that surprising.

BackToLurk · Yesterday 17:44

MintBird · Yesterday 15:32

ah yes, Amnesty Int. called groups whose one and only purpose is being anti-trans, anti-rights groups. Like it or not, they aren't wrong and I don't see why they should be on their knees begging Jo for an apology (almost as if Jo is getting a power kick out of using her money to threaten lawsuits).

"It's just the all party Christian Group for people in Parliament"

What year is this again? 2026 or 1956?

It’s 2026, which is presumably why there are APPGs for other religions, and indeed non-religious MPs and peers.

Grown-ups generally allow pluralism of thought and belief. I appreciate that may blow your mind.

Comtesse · Today 00:20

spannasaurus · Yesterday 11:04

That Park Run record is not just held by a man but a man currently in prison for stabbing a UK Athletics official who questioned his sex

What? Really? That’s shocking.

spannasaurus · Today 06:56

Comtesse · Today 00:20

What? Really? That’s shocking.

His name is Lauren jeska

Tallisker · Today 07:33

spannasaurus · Today 06:56

His name is Lauren jeska

Is that Parkrun? Thought he was a fell runner.

spannasaurus · Today 07:37

Tallisker · Today 07:33

Is that Parkrun? Thought he was a fell runner.

He is a fell runner but also holds a park run record

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · Today 07:44

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 11/08/2026 03:22

You approve of taking money from an institution which can't pay for sexually abused kids to have psychiatric counselling?

Which practices corridor care because there's no cash to pay for extra staff?

Which can't implement this guidance because it's already at breaking point regarding number of staffed beds? Right before the winter bugs hit?

Jesus. Wards are heavily supervised and all have male staff. The moment you can leave your bed and walk they start the process of discharging you. And Intensive Care has so few beds it cannot possibly follow this - one more time - guidance.

A billionaire using her cash like this - instead of, say, helping CAMHS save those raped kids - is obscene.

I’m deafened by the sound of the barrel being scraped.

Tallisker · Today 07:45

spannasaurus · Today 07:37

He is a fell runner but also holds a park run record

Thanks. Didn’t know that bit. Am I right in thinking he blinded or nearly blinded the official he attacked for questioning his sex?

spannasaurus · Today 07:47

From a BBC report about Jeska

The court heard how Mr Knibbs, a former rugby player with Bristol, suffered a stroke at the scene which temporarily blinded him in one eye.
He now has limited vision in both eyes, rendering him disabled, his movement is restricted and he has difficulty eating due to severed nerves.

Tallisker · Today 07:50

Thanks spanna

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