JKR offers to fund any nurse or female patient legal fees

[Imdunfer]

JKR, in the wake of health authorities failing to implement the single sex space laws, has offered to fund the legal case of any female nurse or patient who wants to sue their health authority.

I love that woman!

I mean, I imagine the business law community would be surprised … but apparently it is not ‘law’ unless a criminal case can be shown. I reckon that all these business law books floating around need to be changed.

@KindViper Asking a trans people to use a third toilet would out them as trans and breach their human rights,

Not if all the wonderful trans allies show their support and use the gender neutral toilets. I am surprised all the lovely trans allies haven’t started a campaign to stand up and support transpeople by using GN facilities.

Operating mixed sex changing rooms for their female staff is obscene.

And it would not cost much to put right.

They could sort it in a week there are so few trans people affected. One small alternative room to change in is all that is needed. Leave female staff to change and toilet in privacy.

Who needs people like M J Murphy to eludicate? TRA posters are doing the work themselves here in the constant highlighting of their favoured talking points, which are so far from actual arguments they could be called transarguments.

It's getting easier to spot. When the cardinal questions are ignored, every time we are told that we (or JKR, ofc) should sort out this or that other issue rather than the one that concerns us, I don't even glance over to see the 🐿any more. Which saves effort.

I ❤️ JKR and agree @Imdunfer I don’t think she wants to fund a single case. It’s getting the message across to every single NHS Trust that they need to obey the law. It’s unacceptable that women are being raped in the name of DEI, that nurses are forced to strip in front of men in order to work and that the institutional response to questions is to bully, harass and intimidate any woman raising objections. Frankly all trusts should have already decided to obey the law but for those who have decided it’s optional because it’s hard for an individual middle aged nurse to take on the might of the NHS here’s a stick. In the old days this is what decent unions would do when their members were threatened or put at risk.

The police won't get involved for trespass, but they could if a public order offence were committed, which might sometimes be the case. I don't know where the threshold is for such offences.

She is amazing ❤, someone who really has women's backs.

I approve of NHS bodies obeying the law. Two of them ( Fife and Durham and Darlington) have already spent/wasted literally hundreds of thousands of pounds defying the law. Trans identified men- who appear to be the members of the "trans community" shouting loudest, will be a tiny tiny proportion of their staff. They can set aside one unisex loo.

Absolutely agree...

but to save even more money they can simply tell them to use the loos that already exist - the male ones...

we know from years of discussion, from the studies done, from the evidence gathered that there is no evidence of risk to a man pretending to be a woman ('trans woman'), in a male loo / space... whereas there is risk to women having men in their space.

we also have very clear signs that for the vast majority of those shouting about it, it is performative anger designed to get their way - it is based on no substance, and the argument is really about validation as a 'woman' or wanting access to women when they are vulnerable

so, no good reasons being shared - so they can crack on using the facilities that already exist and save even more money!

This and, I think, millions of people watching a couple of men punching women in the face and getting gold medals for it. The general population couldn't pretend it wasn't an issue any more.

I commend JKR for all the work she has done, the absolutely batshittery, threats and violence she has had to endure and for putting her money where her mouth is. She has been explicitly clear about what issues she has and kept going. That is why she couldn't be cancelled, unlike other celebs who say they are "kind" but don't demonstrate it.

I'm so greatful to her that she's willing to use her wealth in this way. I hate that women's rights have always had to be fought for, never just assumed, how can they be up for debate? So I hate that this needs to be the case, but I'm glad there is someone like her who can step into the breach. I went to a women's health clinic a few years back, and had inappropriate treatment by a man who didn't identify as such. I was in a vulnerable position, literraly, and was too scared to speak up. it led to an A&E visit afterward. JK has the back of those who aren't afraid to speak up, that's a powerful and brave partnership.

She is wonderful. Deluded TRAs calling her deranged is just down to wishful thinking. Unfortunately for them, she’s as far from deranged as you can get.

In other words she wants to use her money to sue trans people or anyone supportive of trans people.

Cartoon villain at this point.

Oh dear, you really have lost touch with reality haven’t you sir?

The NHS should really know better - it will cost them dearly as it has already.
It is not just about toilets!! it is about all single sex provision.

Why are TW unsafe in mens loos anyway? Haven't heard of TW being hassled? Unless anyone knows? Maybe it's as my colleague says 'they could be ridiculed'
As for calling JKR deranged, perhaps should sue!

Edited to say I'm not sure the use of howse needed correction.

She reached that stage some time ago when the mask well and truly slipped off.

“Cartoon villain at this point”

more projection

"Why are TW unsafe in mens loos anyway? Haven't heard of TW being hassled? Unless anyone knows? Maybe it's as my colleague says 'they could be ridiculed'"

It's not a question of whether or not trans-women would be - or would feel - safe in the wrong bathroom (that's the mens, for the confused among you). The question is they are being restricted from using the correct bathroom (that's the womens, for the still confused among you).

This specific issue stems from the fact that JKR is using part of her enormous wealth to fund anyone who takes issue (i.e. legal action) with the NHS' stance.
She is, in effect, using her wealth to punish a valuable and critical organisation for not adhering to her own views and those of her equally deranged disciples.

That is no more altruism than the despicable Elon Musk using part of his enormous wealth in supporting and emboldening the far right.

Yawn. There comes a time when sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "projection! projection!" at anything that is liable to interfere with your carefully crafted image of reality becomes tiresome.

What, like your intelligently crafted "deranged billionaire" and "GC ideological captives"?

Ahh

This concentration on toilets is TRA framing, partly used because it's easy to call women unkind, or whatever, for just letting a "vulnerable" TiM share facilities briefly. Important not to let that stay as the focus.

Allowing men to use women's toilets is the gateway to men accessing women's changing rooms, rape crisis centres, prisons... It's the other way round from the Denton's playbook approach whereby if you can get males into female prisons all the other protected spaces for women will fall away.

If trans people respected other people's boundaries, then there is no reason for anyone to be challenged in court.

A gender identity doesn't undo the strength advantage given by male puberty.

Yes.

Trans women pose exactly the same risks to women in toilets as other men.

She does so much good with her money, yet she is excoriated, while the Musks and Bezos of this world, who do so much harm, are feted and worshipped. It infuriates me.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

This is better than the Edinburgh Fringe - the confused calling others confused for being not-confused - confusing eh?! 😂

It's not a question of whether or not trans-women would be - or would feel - safe in the wrong bathroom (that's the mens, for the confused among you). The question is they are being restricted from using the correct bathroom (that's the womens, for the still confused among you).

how can the men's be the wrong bathroom for men ('trans-women')?!
how can the women's be the correct bathroom for men ('trans-women')?!

For the confused among us, who are not confused even more by such confusing statements, let's remove confusion by being transparent.

A trans-woman is a man

if a trans-woman was a woman, they wouldn't need the label 'trans' the qualifier is only there because they hold a belief that they can 'trans' / transition to being a woman. That means that they must have started out as a man.

For clarity that means:

• Their biological sex was male
• Their biological sex still is male
• They were a man
• They still are a man

Now, for those who like things to be easy - let's play a game of match:

Men ......................................................... Men's loos / spaces
Women .................................................... Women's loos / spaces

Now, I appreciate that some are confused - but for those on the edge, not entirely sure there is a big clue in the names...

Men go into men's spaces
Women go into women's spaces

And as a trans-woman is a man - which should they choose - yes, I know this is exciting.... <insert drum-roll here>

yup - you are there, laser focused and correct - as a trans-woman is a man, they go into men's spaces...

there you are - hopefully no longer confused...

men are men and women are women - who knew?!