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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jennifer Saunders - Omaze / Women

20 replies

Secretsquirrelshh · 08/08/2026 18:34

I see Jennifer Saunders is promoting the latest Omaze draw, and the charity is Wellbeing of Women.

Having looked at their website, it does seem to be a charity ACTUALLY for women (mentions trans men - in the context of them having periods).

Interesting that Jennifer Saunders is doing something so completely for women, when one suspects Dawn French might be more... mealy mouthed about "well, we're basically ALL women aren't we?"

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Lovelyview · 08/08/2026 18:36

That sounds like an excellent cause. Thanks for sharing and good for Jennifer.

Igmum · 08/08/2026 18:54

Good news - and a sign of the times that we have to check whether a charity for women supports women - thanks Squirrel

BEAchDays2 · 08/08/2026 18:57

Such a strange thread.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 08/08/2026 19:00

BEAchDays2 · 08/08/2026 18:57

Such a strange thread.

Women talking about women on a feminist board of a predominantly female website.

Yeah. So strange 🙄

Screamingabdabz · 08/08/2026 19:14

BEAchDays2 · 08/08/2026 18:57

Such a strange thread.

Why is it strange?

singthing · 08/08/2026 19:46

Re Dawn French: Julie Burchill is not her biggest fan, read this earlier, seems like Dawnie may be tending towards the omnicause?

https://archive.ph/aa9YE

IwantToRetire · 08/08/2026 20:13

Quote:

Inclusivity policy

Wellbeing of Women work to improve women’s reproductive and gynaecological health, but it is important to recognise that it is not only people who identify as women for whom our work is relevant.

There are trans men, and non-binary and intersex people, who require access to information, treatment, care and support relating to gynaecological and reproductive health.

We aim to be inclusive and sensitive to the needs of those individuals whose gender identity does not align with the sex they were assigned at birth.

https://www.wellbeingofwomen.org.uk/inclusivity-policy/

Although looking at the health issues they cover they are in relation to biological females.

But maybe we should keep quiet, we dont want the TRAs launching a campaign against Omaze!

likelysuspect · 08/08/2026 20:19

Secretsquirrelshh · 08/08/2026 18:34

I see Jennifer Saunders is promoting the latest Omaze draw, and the charity is Wellbeing of Women.

Having looked at their website, it does seem to be a charity ACTUALLY for women (mentions trans men - in the context of them having periods).

Interesting that Jennifer Saunders is doing something so completely for women, when one suspects Dawn French might be more... mealy mouthed about "well, we're basically ALL women aren't we?"

What a rather bizarre last paragraph?

Do people compare your views with your ex work colleagues or friends of yours by saying 'interesting that you support this whereas your friend and ex colleague might not do'

?

GreyskySexRealistsky · 08/08/2026 20:24

likelysuspect · 08/08/2026 20:19

What a rather bizarre last paragraph?

Do people compare your views with your ex work colleagues or friends of yours by saying 'interesting that you support this whereas your friend and ex colleague might not do'

?

It's a tight-knit partnership and people are free to comment on the apparent difference if they want.

And yes, this happens/ has happened to me. It's not that deep!

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 08/08/2026 20:32

That’s a relief. It’s always disappointing when someone you’d assumed was clever turns out to be dim.

Secretsquirrelshh · 08/08/2026 21:56

likelysuspect · 08/08/2026 20:19

What a rather bizarre last paragraph?

Do people compare your views with your ex work colleagues or friends of yours by saying 'interesting that you support this whereas your friend and ex colleague might not do'

?

“French and Saunders” have been an institution for 30+ years and remain a working partnership and, I believe, close friends… which is great.

Of course people are going to compare them when one of them speaks out on issues (or noticeably doesn’t).

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likelysuspect · 08/08/2026 21:58

Secretsquirrelshh · 08/08/2026 21:56

“French and Saunders” have been an institution for 30+ years and remain a working partnership and, I believe, close friends… which is great.

Of course people are going to compare them when one of them speaks out on issues (or noticeably doesn’t).

Why? They're not the same person, they're entitled to have different views and it would be a bit strange if they didnt.

Secretsquirrelshh · 08/08/2026 22:04

Of course they are. But in the same way, if there is a divisive issue and they’re on opposite sides of the fence, it’s interesting, as they are public figures and clearly real-life friends.

Like if someone who was a vehement anti-abortionist was besties with someone who worked for Marie Stopes.

Anyway, I’ve just entered the draw so well done Omaze and I expect I’ll be logging on from Cornwall soon.

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Whatchamacallitt · 08/08/2026 22:09

IwantToRetire · 08/08/2026 20:13

Quote:

Inclusivity policy

Wellbeing of Women work to improve women’s reproductive and gynaecological health, but it is important to recognise that it is not only people who identify as women for whom our work is relevant.

There are trans men, and non-binary and intersex people, who require access to information, treatment, care and support relating to gynaecological and reproductive health.

We aim to be inclusive and sensitive to the needs of those individuals whose gender identity does not align with the sex they were assigned at birth.

https://www.wellbeingofwomen.org.uk/inclusivity-policy/

Although looking at the health issues they cover they are in relation to biological females.

But maybe we should keep quiet, we dont want the TRAs launching a campaign against Omaze!

That seems a very reasonable position. Normally written literature for women and girls that doesn't treat our sex as a dirty word, with an individualised approach for trans-identified women and girls which is sensitive to their distress regarding their sex. Obviously some of the language like sex 'assigned at birth' is nonsense activist lingo but it's a step in the right direction.

nauticant · 08/08/2026 22:10

I am enjoying the triggered posts saying that's what's wrong with this thread is that either Jennifer Saunders or the people posting need to STFU.

likelysuspect · 08/08/2026 22:14

Secretsquirrelshh · 08/08/2026 22:04

Of course they are. But in the same way, if there is a divisive issue and they’re on opposite sides of the fence, it’s interesting, as they are public figures and clearly real-life friends.

Like if someone who was a vehement anti-abortionist was besties with someone who worked for Marie Stopes.

Anyway, I’ve just entered the draw so well done Omaze and I expect I’ll be logging on from Cornwall soon.

Good luck!!!

Secretsquirrelshh · Yesterday 13:39

likelysuspect · 08/08/2026 22:14

Good luck!!!

Thank you!

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anyolddinosaur · Yesterday 15:06

Oh dear. The house in Cornwall is beautiful but would be totally impractical for us. I dont enter prize draws as it's a wate of money but I was sorely tempted because it's such a lovely property and now you tell me it's supporting a sensible charity. I might have to cave and enter.

Secretsquirrelshh · Yesterday 16:56

anyolddinosaur · Yesterday 15:06

Oh dear. The house in Cornwall is beautiful but would be totally impractical for us. I dont enter prize draws as it's a wate of money but I was sorely tempted because it's such a lovely property and now you tell me it's supporting a sensible charity. I might have to cave and enter.

Had a very stressful conversation with DH last night where we couldn't decide when we win the house, whether to uproot the children's education to move down there, or sell it (would it even be easy to sell a house like that?), or to AirBNB it. Decided that would be an awful lot of work and big decisions either way, and we weren't really in a place where we wanted so much upheaval.

Reluctantly decided it's for the best if we don't win.

However, we're delighted for an excellent charity to have some money.

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IwantToRetire · Yesterday 17:19

anyolddinosaur · Yesterday 15:06

Oh dear. The house in Cornwall is beautiful but would be totally impractical for us. I dont enter prize draws as it's a wate of money but I was sorely tempted because it's such a lovely property and now you tell me it's supporting a sensible charity. I might have to cave and enter.

In most cases of those who win prizes like this they get sold or rented out. So look at it that way. Maybe a nice sum in the bank, or a steady income.

(No one talks about the cost of maintaining such beautiful houses!)

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