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6’10” former Knicks and Celtics star formerly declares for the WNBA draft

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LesbianNana · 07/08/2026 23:58

I can’t wait to see who drafts my girl Enes Kanter Freedom. 😂

In a video, the former New York Knicks and Boston Celtics star said: 'After careful consideration and reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I’m officially declaring myself a @WNBA prospect.

'If simply declaring who you are is all that’s required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA.

'My team and I have carefully examined the WNBA’s eligibility criteria and governing framework surrounding self-identification and inclusion. Based on the current guidelines, I can and am officially declaring my eligibility for the upcoming WNBA draft in April 2027.”

”See you at training camp.”

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

Former NBA star officially declares for WNBA Draft amid trans debate

Kanter, who played in the NBA for 11 seasons, shared the announcement on social media on Friday afternoon amid the ongoing debate around transgender inclusion in sports.

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

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Helleofabore · 10/08/2026 10:49

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 10/08/2026 10:45

BREAKING: Michael Beasley has officially declared for the 2027 WNBA Draft after identifying as a woman. He is the third former NBA player to do so following Enes Kanter Freedom and Royce White. The move continues to spark debate across professional sports.

I believe Fishman has also declared too.

That is four.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 10/08/2026 10:50

Northbynorthbest · 10/08/2026 09:04

Would love to read about this!

It's here and it's long!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5333650-an-update-to-the-wi-announcement-thread-my-dh-just-got-a-reply-to-his-application-to-join-them?page=1

BlessingYou · 10/08/2026 11:10

AlecTrevelyan006 · 10/08/2026 09:21

But media organisations all over the world do stuff like this all the time. You are naive to think that they only report the news - they very often make it themselves and have been doing so ever since newspapers were invented.

I’m a trained journalist.There is a gulf between this type of entrapment ruse and legitimate investigation. It isn’t common - or it shouldn’t be - for journalists or media to create their own content to report on.

That is literally what occurred here.

JellySaurus · 10/08/2026 11:14

BlessingYou · 10/08/2026 08:16

No, it shouldn’t. A media organisation shouldn’t resort to deception and trickery to force the WNBA’s hand, either - either right, centre or left.

The organisations resorting to deception and trickery are the sports organisations that allow men to invade women's sport. This includes the organisations that refuse to clarify their positions, like the WBNA.

fromorbit · 10/08/2026 11:15

JKR has now posted on this in response to TA outage about insincere men in dresses wanting to play basketball. Read the entire thread it is hilarious:

J.K. Rowling
17h
AndrewMercado You say some men ‘sincerely’ identify as women, but that these two men aren’t sincere. Do sincere men injure fewer women and girls than the insincere ones? How do we test for sincerity? What if a Sincerity Jury is split? Very much looking forward to your answers.

https://nitter.net/jk_rowling/status/2086492523774489082#m

nicepotoftea · 10/08/2026 11:24

BlessingYou · 10/08/2026 11:10

I’m a trained journalist.There is a gulf between this type of entrapment ruse and legitimate investigation. It isn’t common - or it shouldn’t be - for journalists or media to create their own content to report on.

That is literally what occurred here.

What are they being 'entrapped' into doing?

Announcing a policy that clarifies the rules? Following the lead of other organisations who have done similar?

Datun · 10/08/2026 11:26

I absolutely fucking hate this. If one of those men is a wife beater, it just proves our point, not that of trans ideology.

Men are the abusive sex. It's the whole fucking point.

This pretence that any man who is trans is not abusive is absolute bollocks.

This guy is living proof.

And now they are being forced to look at their criteria. Just that makes the whole fricking thing worth it.

Go on, come up with some criteria, let's have it.

Datun · 10/08/2026 11:27

nicepotoftea · 10/08/2026 11:24

What are they being 'entrapped' into doing?

Announcing a policy that clarifies the rules? Following the lead of other organisations who have done similar?

Exactly.

It's so arse about face. You're being forced to back up your statements that you protect women's sport. Go on then.

Honestly, the fucking hypocrisy is infuriating

Talkinpeace · 10/08/2026 12:10

BlessingYou · 10/08/2026 11:10

I’m a trained journalist.There is a gulf between this type of entrapment ruse and legitimate investigation. It isn’t common - or it shouldn’t be - for journalists or media to create their own content to report on.

That is literally what occurred here.

You have not heard of William Randolf Hearst then ....

Helleofabore · 10/08/2026 12:17

‘Entrapped’.

investigative journalists (including undercover actions) do ‘entrap’ organisations to create content though.

And the journalists do this also with an aim to force change too.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 10/08/2026 12:55

Datun · 10/08/2026 11:26

I absolutely fucking hate this. If one of those men is a wife beater, it just proves our point, not that of trans ideology.

Men are the abusive sex. It's the whole fucking point.

This pretence that any man who is trans is not abusive is absolute bollocks.

This guy is living proof.

And now they are being forced to look at their criteria. Just that makes the whole fricking thing worth it.

Go on, come up with some criteria, let's have it.

Edited

100% of TRAs screaming about how Royce White is a wifebeater are committing the logical fallacy known as "poisoning the well". It's a form of ad hominem attack and they are using it to avoid engaging with the point that he is making, which is that nothing in WNBA rules stops him from signing up as a female player.

As @Datun and JKR both point out, that one of these men is a wifebeater and could still sign up s a female player underlines our argument that no man should be allowed to compete in women's sports or use women's changing rooms.

SirChenjins · 10/08/2026 12:59

What happened to the male who sexually assaulted his female opponent during a wrestling competition in view of all the spectators? I seem to remember the coach didn't stop the match, nor were the police called immediately. Has he been banned yet and charged?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 10/08/2026 13:01

SirChenjins · 10/08/2026 12:59

What happened to the male who sexually assaulted his female opponent during a wrestling competition in view of all the spectators? I seem to remember the coach didn't stop the match, nor were the police called immediately. Has he been banned yet and charged?

Edited

WTF did I just read?

murasaki · 10/08/2026 13:04

As I remember, the victim was a teenage girl who was trying to alert people as it happened, and nothing was done.

spannasaurus · 10/08/2026 13:30

SirChenjins · 10/08/2026 12:59

What happened to the male who sexually assaulted his female opponent during a wrestling competition in view of all the spectators? I seem to remember the coach didn't stop the match, nor were the police called immediately. Has he been banned yet and charged?

Edited

Two of the coaches have been charged with failing to follow mandatory reporting of the assault. I'm not aware of any action being taken against the boy

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 10/08/2026 13:39

spannasaurus · 10/08/2026 13:30

Two of the coaches have been charged with failing to follow mandatory reporting of the assault. I'm not aware of any action being taken against the boy

Searched for it. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/female-wrestler-16-alleges-assault-by-trans-opponent-doe-investigating/ar-AA1Wjg8I Holy shit.

MSN

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/female-wrestler-16-alleges-assault-by-trans-opponent-doe-investigating/ar-AA1Wjg8I

Binglebong · 10/08/2026 14:15

DearCrow · 10/08/2026 07:55

From reading the Collective Bargaining Agreement between WNBA and WNBPA as a whole it seems extremely unlikely that this intends to define "women" as including men who call themselves women. There are provisions for pregnancy and childbirth. There are references to women's health experts. There is a stated goal of promoting women's empowerment.

The wording of "only players who are women are eligible to play in the WNBA" has been in the CBA since it was first agreed in 1999, and repeated verbatim in each renegotiation. There is no chance whatsoever that this included male transsexuals back in the 90s, and there is no evidence to indicate that this means something different now.

Also, there have been two trans-identifying WNBA players in recent years: Layshia Clarendon and Asia Durr, each of whom declared herself to be "non-binary". They weren't kicked out of the league, but continued competing, as the women they are. This in itself shows the CBA intends "women" to be read as actual female women.

So I don't buy any of these arguments that the WNBA haven't precisely defined "women" therefore men who say they're women can be drafted. The definition is clear from both context and practice.

We have literally had to go to the highest Court in the uk to define woman for the equality act.

SirChenjins · 10/08/2026 15:13

It was horrific - and that it what women and girls face when they are forced to compete against boys and men. The video is appalling - the girl is desperately trying to get the adults attention and nothing is done to stop the match or check she's ok. She's obviously very distressed.

So the boy gets away from it? Yep, sounds about right - protect the trans kids, fuck the rights of girls 😡

fromorbit · 10/08/2026 15:27

Great thread with a long list of male cheats in women's basketball including accounts of women being injured by them. This is a real problem worldwide:

https://nitter.net/hecheateddotorg/status/2084744457736372399

UtopiaPlanitia · 10/08/2026 15:46

fromorbit · 10/08/2026 11:15

JKR has now posted on this in response to TA outage about insincere men in dresses wanting to play basketball. Read the entire thread it is hilarious:

J.K. Rowling
17h
AndrewMercado You say some men ‘sincerely’ identify as women, but that these two men aren’t sincere. Do sincere men injure fewer women and girls than the insincere ones? How do we test for sincerity? What if a Sincerity Jury is split? Very much looking forward to your answers.

https://nitter.net/jk_rowling/status/2086492523774489082#m

And of course, when this man feels affronted, by a woman standing up to him, he does the usual TRA thing of sneeringly calling her 'Joanne' to try and talk down to her 🙄

Theeyeballsinthesky · 10/08/2026 19:35

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 10/08/2026 12:55

100% of TRAs screaming about how Royce White is a wifebeater are committing the logical fallacy known as "poisoning the well". It's a form of ad hominem attack and they are using it to avoid engaging with the point that he is making, which is that nothing in WNBA rules stops him from signing up as a female player.

As @Datun and JKR both point out, that one of these men is a wifebeater and could still sign up s a female player underlines our argument that no man should be allowed to compete in women's sports or use women's changing rooms.

Gosh those TRA will be gutted when they find out about the TW who have beaten and abused women then

moto748e · 10/08/2026 19:42

Ah, but thanks to the wonders of Doublethink...

Helleofabore · 10/08/2026 20:07

All the ad hominem attacks in the world don’t change the facts.

The WNBA has a policy that allows male people to apply. And would leave the WMBA open to legal challenges if they didn’t recruit a male athlete.

That is why all these Whatabout attacks are fucking meaningless.

BabaYagasHouse · 10/08/2026 21:10

Article by Known Heretic (Amy E Sousa) about how WBNA have already had a transgender player- TIF. Which highlights the issue being about male players:

www.theknownheretic.com/p/why-is-nobody-talking-about-layshia