6’10” former Knicks and Celtics star formerly declares for the WNBA draft

[LesbianNana]

I can’t wait to see who drafts my girl Enes Kanter Freedom. 😂

In a video, the former New York Knicks and Boston Celtics star said: 'After careful consideration and reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I’m officially declaring myself a @WNBA prospect.

'If simply declaring who you are is all that’s required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WNBA.

'My team and I have carefully examined the WNBA’s eligibility criteria and governing framework surrounding self-identification and inclusion. Based on the current guidelines, I can and am officially declaring my eligibility for the upcoming WNBA draft in April 2027.”

”See you at training camp.”

https://www.dailymail.com/sport/wnba/article-16037187/enkanter-wnba-draft-trans-debate.html

Yes, there is. Because it might happen, so nail down the criteria. All risk assessments gave to do that. You don't just say no one has ever fallen off this roof garden so we won't put a railing up, do you.

Jesus.

Yep I'd rather a cheek swab than pissing in front of the drug testers like sports people have to do.

I haven't noticed people getting onto their high horses in opposition to drugs testing, it's true.

Gosh. If only we could trust that no male athletes would enter the female category…. That had worked so well in the past, hasn’t it?

And of course, no need to test for PEDs either. No need to check age, or that a person entering a particular category for people with disabilities fits that criteria either.

In fact, let’s abandon all testing and all people are trusted to enter the appropriate protected sports category that they feel they fit.

Or… do some people have such contempt for female people that they would shame any female athlete who advocated for sex screening because they are obviously the ones with the problem.

If there aren't any dopers present, there doesn't appear to be a problem to solve never mind it being essential. No need for any doping tests.

Your argument is very immature and irrational.

No need to go to the fuss of drug testing either is there?

I don't understand why you have to show tickets before they'll let you in to watch the game. It's not like people who don't have tickets will try to speak in and, if they do, imagine how humiliated they'd be at being caught.

I identify as a ticket holder so don't question me

Only female people apparently are hateful to want to ensure their protected sports category is only for female people and excludes all male people who have a body that produces or has produced testosterone within the male range when that body can process that testosterone to masculinise to any degree.

Apparently, female people wanting to ensure this are the problem.

@Talkinpeace ‘Griner will pass. She is female.’

Lol. Lance Armstrong ‘passed’ as a non doper for ages too. Until Floyd Landis was pissed off enough to squeal about their team’s systemic doping, and bring in the US anti-doping Agency.

Imagine there are complete ‘chemical enhancphobic’ bigots out there who want to out, and exclude, those who are being their true doper selves, in order to try to maintain fair sports in the male category.

Moral of the story; you need to check them all. Cheaters not going to admit anything, and someone feeling it in their water that certain players are legit is not a reliable or scientific method.

edited to correct USADA. Agency not Association.

I don’t understand why I have to be DBS checked - I’ve never harmed a child and I know I never would.

🙄

Good point Jelly.

I wonder if we will stop seeing that absurd trite sentiment any time soon.

A number of posters on this thread seem very certain that Griner is female. What is the evidence they are relying upon?

She was in a Russian prison for nearly a year. Presumably they have communal showers, etc. Vlad would have pounced on this.

Yep, that was the bit that swung me from being unsure to pretty convinced.

Well, if something is internal (like testes which haven’t dropped normally to outside the body) you wouldn’t see them in the shower. This condition happens in males who don’t develop as normal for their sex. Doesn’t make them female, as that is a discrete sex as opposed to a male whose bits didn’t develop properly. Female is not a flawed male.

That’s why they do the swab test. Visual can’t do the job. I suppose likewise they don’t do drug doping tests from a mere visual inspection of the person.

Griner was in Russia playing in their women's Basketball League
as she and many others did in the off season because their pay was so poor in the WNBA.

She got busted for Cannabis and jailed.
If the Russian authorities had even an inkling she was male they would have SRY tested her
(the test has been around for many years)

and if she had tested male they would have gone to town on
"Cheating American men beating Russian women"

They did not because she is female.

She was in the prison long enough to have needed period products multiple times after all.

This is true.

I also think it is potentially flawed to make that decision based on the expectation that either the person was held in the general population where showers were completely open and that there was always someone in the shower at the same time or that the women in that prison would even know who the fuck Griner was and would talk about it in the public arena. It would require those women to feel they had any voice to be heard or even wanted to publicly discuss being in prison in the first place.

This. A cheating man from the West (against unknowing women no less) would really be a PR coup for the Russian State.

I don’t think it would have come out via prisoners themselves, but via staff. I was reading a biography of a woman who committed money laundering in the US and she described how humiliated she was in the showers when staff sprayed them down with disinfectant soap. This was in a US prison. I would bet my house on Russian prisons being worse re: prisoner welfare, personal privacy, and general treatment.

I don’t know why I have to be scanned for explosives when I fly, or even have my passport checked. I’m an honest person and can be entirely trusted not to blow up an aircraft.

I have absolutely no idea whether BG is female or not, but I wouldn't try to second guess Putin on anything. I think that he actually plays a much more subtle game than many people in the West realise. If he has useful info he stores it and then uses it when it is most favourable to him.

As his recent games have included foisting Trump on the US and brexit on the UK, I really doubt the discovery of a trans basketball player of any nation would gain even a flicker of attention from him.

So easy to blame Putin for Trump and Brexit, isn't it? No complex or nuanced thinking involved at all.

I reckon Putin is quite enjoying the destabilising effect that trans activism is having. It's a dead cat.