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How police let a registered sex offender murder and attack women

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IwantToRetire · 07/08/2026 18:20

If anyone has listened or watched any news today you will have seen yet another case where the police have failed to protect women.

Do they just not care, or is it too much bother to monitor registered sex offenders. Who was on bail.

Let alone not bothering to investigate murders.

This just keeps on happening.

RIP to the women who died and Flowers to the brave survivor who help convict this man.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jnrk4xlvdo

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/aug/07/simon-levy-murders-has-anything-changed-in-policing-since-sarah-everard-killing

https://www.hertsad.co.uk/news/national/26446874.two-police-officers-investigation-sex-predator-left-free-kill/

Simon Levy murders: has anything changed in policing since Sarah Everard’s killing?

Experts say the attackers’ behaviour, and the handling of their cases, have striking similarities

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/aug/07/simon-levy-murders-has-anything-changed-in-policing-since-sarah-everard-killing

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EveryoneIsPointingNow · 13/08/2026 10:47

"Did perp commit fraud?" - yes, we can still find a cell for him, that's more important than mostly women and girls' safety.

Persephonia1966 · 13/08/2026 10:48

SerendipityJane · 07/08/2026 18:51

The Met were shit in the Glory Days of Thatcher. Maybe if it were a party political problem it would be solved by now.

Turns out misogyny and racism are across the board.

Agree it's not just a party political thing. And TBH as a woman I feel safe visiting Londonnand even (gasp) wearing jewellery. The feeling safety/overall safety aspects matter a lot, but unfortunately concentrating only on them leads to skewed priorities.

Eg in this case it seems the MET police were perhaps less bothered by the first violent rape because the victim was a sex worker. Some people have a mental divide between "normal" women and women in prostitution so you can have a veneer of safety for most people and unpleasant stuff going on under the rug. You see that happen a lot when people talk about how "safe" Hungary, Dubai, Moscow etc feel (often with a negative comparison to multicultural London). But while I would feel very safe walking around Budapest as an adult middle class woman there's a lot of child sex trafficking and adult sexual exploitation that happens. It only happens to certain women though so it's "safe" for tourists. Likewise times 100 for Dubai.

I would like to imagine the UK is better than those places but unfortunately there are some police forces where the misogyny is deeply entrenched. And it's not necessarily an evenly spaced misogyny. One woman might be a "real" victim, another isn't because they are working class or a prostitute or black race.

I can understand why people get defensive when you have right wing American pundits incorrectly holding London up as super dangerous/a multicultural hell hole. Objectively it's safer than every single US city. But I wish we could ignore them and also focus on fixing what needs fixing. Because there are problems even if murders are comparatively low. I think America being so awful makes it easier to ignore that.

Persephonia1966 · 13/08/2026 10:54

EveryoneIsPointingNow · 13/08/2026 10:47

"Did perp commit fraud?" - yes, we can still find a cell for him, that's more important than mostly women and girls' safety.

Usually fraud cases would also be allowed out on remand. Even the cases of people (left and right) investigated and even prosecuted for inciting violence etc will be allowed out on remand before trial if it comes to trial.
The only time fraud cases might result in someone not getting bail is if they are a flight risk. Usually if someone is very wealthy and has contacts abroad. What needs to happen is for the risk assessment for violent men and sexually violent men to be tightened.

The other issue is the long wait time before trial. It's awful for victims but also means the accused is either in prison for a long time without having been found guilty or wandering the streets. Neither of those options are good, for different reasons.

But in this case he was clearly a threat so there's no excuse really

Persephonia1966 · 13/08/2026 11:00

Lalgarh · 13/08/2026 10:41

My concern is that this is the praxis of prison abolition and the preference for Restorative Justice and rehabilitation first rather than considering reoffending risks. These are all well meaning high minded theories and policies. It's the sort of thing that would get you a round of applause in Question Time as a longer term solution, but in practice it becomes a tick box exercise.

"Has perp said sorry?" ✅

" Is perp willing to seek help?" ✅

I think treating crime as a public health issue not a moral failing has worked quite well in bringing crime levels and reoffending levels down in lots of areas. However the mistake is in thinking because it works for some types of crime it applies to all of them. Sexual.violence isn't a crime of poverty or low self esteem. You only need to look at Epstein or Jimmy Saville or Trump. Yes some predators will be poor and going through some difficult things in their lives, but they aren't predators because they are poor or having a hard times. Underneath it all is a deep current of extreme selfishness and arrogance. And that is a moral failing. In the way that being a shoplifter (though it causes distress and serious problems) isn't

NoisyBrickDog · 13/08/2026 11:17

Eg in this case it seems the MET police were perhaps less bothered by the first violent rape because the victim was a sex worker. Some people have a mental divide between "normal" women and women in prostitution so you can have a veneer of safety for most people and unpleasant stuff going on under the rug.

You also have to consider - is the 'sex worker' going to help police with the enquiry. I think the area where the offence happened breached an order where she was not allowed to enter - so obviously she is anti-social to a degree and not going to make herself available to be seen by police.

Yes, a rape is a far more serious offence that a breach of the order - but is she going to be helpful to police in the rape enquiry or just make herself unavailable for them.

If she does, then the police can't gather the evidence that is needed to progress the case further.

Lalgarh · 13/08/2026 19:03

Persephonia1966 · 13/08/2026 10:48

Agree it's not just a party political thing. And TBH as a woman I feel safe visiting Londonnand even (gasp) wearing jewellery. The feeling safety/overall safety aspects matter a lot, but unfortunately concentrating only on them leads to skewed priorities.

Eg in this case it seems the MET police were perhaps less bothered by the first violent rape because the victim was a sex worker. Some people have a mental divide between "normal" women and women in prostitution so you can have a veneer of safety for most people and unpleasant stuff going on under the rug. You see that happen a lot when people talk about how "safe" Hungary, Dubai, Moscow etc feel (often with a negative comparison to multicultural London). But while I would feel very safe walking around Budapest as an adult middle class woman there's a lot of child sex trafficking and adult sexual exploitation that happens. It only happens to certain women though so it's "safe" for tourists. Likewise times 100 for Dubai.

I would like to imagine the UK is better than those places but unfortunately there are some police forces where the misogyny is deeply entrenched. And it's not necessarily an evenly spaced misogyny. One woman might be a "real" victim, another isn't because they are working class or a prostitute or black race.

I can understand why people get defensive when you have right wing American pundits incorrectly holding London up as super dangerous/a multicultural hell hole. Objectively it's safer than every single US city. But I wish we could ignore them and also focus on fixing what needs fixing. Because there are problems even if murders are comparatively low. I think America being so awful makes it easier to ignore that.

Had to do a bit of digging but finally found a statement from Sadiq Khan on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?storyfbid=1597889581693800&id=100044183211890

All a bit thoughts and prayers. You'd think he'd make more of a fuss about it as public transport is the USP of the capital.

Never mind, put up more " you are loved and valued" posters up

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