SSS to be discussed on R4 today

[Davros]

Justin Webb just announced that they will be discussing enforcement of single sex spaces on the Today programme this morning. I was only half listening so missed how soon it will be

NOW!

What was it like OP? Lots of sad men whining? Or maybe a balanced discussion?

Thanks for the heads up. I caught it. Shame it wasn't JW but NR made it pretty clear.
The Lambeth Council position is deplorable.

Short but not too bad. Lambeth council and then Mary Ann Stephenson

https://www.thetimes.com/article/c483dc54-8407-435e-81f3-b12b555dda7f?shareToken=faf6aaeb8ab7420016372f9be05fbe79

It could have been better, could have been worse. I suppose it was basically too short but at least the guest was MA Stephenson. It was in the headlines too so I think it will be covered throughout the day. Maybe Women’s Hour will have a go at it!!

And now Justin is having a good discussion with KemiB about non hate crime Wotsits

Thank you. Will have a listen on catch up later.

"Lots of sad men bigoted women whining? Or maybe a balanced discussion?"

Fixed it for you.

"Lots of sad men bigoted women whining? Or maybe a balanced discussion?"

There was only the one bigoted woman from Hackney council whining that the EHRC guidance is unworkable.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/524a8d53-ab49-4d20-ada4-282778b494d2?shareToken=cceb9772bf522ee433e53428a02ba870

Interesting username. What method do you advocate for 'smashing' the 'hate', and how is 'hate' defined? Mere disagreement is not hate, to be clear.

Its on LBC now
Both callers so far are complaining to Nick Ferrari about lovely transman husband and woman with transdaughter being at risk
Not balanced so far with callers

Ok. It looks like the segment has ended
LBC only put callers promoting the trans side on

You have to wonder what they thought the situation was before the guidance was issued.

"We have this quaint tradition of insisting that you waste money on separate facilities for men and women, but nobody knows why and obviously everyone can just choose which they prefer"

If, ten years ago, less time had been spent shouting at women and more time campaigning for additional unisex facilities, trans people might find things easier now.

But it seems that shouting at women was always the priority.

Was it one of 4 Green Councillors who recently went to a protest about the EHRC guidance, where an effigy of Andy Burham was stabbed in the eyes? One of the 2 who spoke?

Hackney is fucked under the Greens.

https://x.com/HackneyLabour/status/2077105601981579406

@SmashTheHate has started his own thread which is full of intellectual rigour and considered discussion points.

The summer holidays are clearly already starting to drag for some. 🙄

ETA: Have just seen that thread has been deleted. Such a shame as I am sure @SmashTheHate was going to have a reasoned debate and not just resort to name calling.

I expect we'll have a large number of of visitors today

• the deranged ones unable to hide their fury from the off at uppity women - "you're alk right wing bigots/nazis/transphobes"
• the sad faced "I transitioned 87 years ago with puberty blockers and everything and you can't tell I'm not a woman" with a user name involving butterflies or flowers
• the aunt Lydia's whose best friend in the whole world ever is a TW and they never even knew until they were told
• at least one TM gotcha

anymore for anymore??

and whatever, just use the correct bloody facilities fir your sex Dave

And condescending mansplaining as to what a woman is.

A link to the clip

https://x.com/i/status/2084912252151353670

I thought that said “the summer holidays are clearly already starting IN drag for some”.
I think the woman was from Lambeth council

A variation on the Aunt Lydia who is also 'as gender critical as they come'.

Triumphant crowing ones along the lines of "well I just used a women's loo and no one stopped me"
... with same poster posting photos on social media of himself in ladies' loo

Hmm i always thought bash back would send a few soldiers over here. Smash hate user name sounds like a possible candidate IMHO

Agree Hedgie, hard agree