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And then they came for the teddy bears

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Hoardasurass · 27/07/2026 10:48

So the arts council has funded an exhibition by culture leicestershire that claims some care bears are trans. They're teddies ffs. When will this crap end 🤬

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/4038ff473ba22d6a

Some teddy bears are trans, says taxpayer-backed arts group

Exhibition developed by Culture Leicestershire highlights Care Bears as ‘symbol for the LGBTQA+ community’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/4038ff473ba22d6a

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/07/2026 14:03

I think they decided at one point that one of the Scooby Doo kids was homosexual, and that caused an uproar. Am I right about that?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/07/2026 14:23

lcakethereforeIam · 28/07/2026 13:34

I think the original anime (which I'd love to have seen) was called Gatchaman. I had a thing for Jason, brooding bad boy <swoon>. I think he died in the original.

I was hiding my geekiness....

I have the Japanese series on DVD though probably twenty years since I watched it. The original title translates to Science Ninja Team Gatchaman.

It's a much better series than BOTP - and no annoying underwater robots!

lcakethereforeIam · 28/07/2026 15:27

Geekiness like that is something to be cherished.

I always hoped 7Zark7's HQ would implode.

Lifelover16 · 28/07/2026 18:11

GriseldaandMike · 28/07/2026 11:17

Where do the nothing is a fish folk stand on things that identify as fish? Who are they do dismiss their inner sense of fishness?

They don’t stand on anything - because they have no legs 😂🤪

Hoardasurass · 28/07/2026 18:33

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/07/2026 14:03

I think they decided at one point that one of the Scooby Doo kids was homosexual, and that caused an uproar. Am I right about that?

Wasn't it fella with her short hair and love of science

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ScrollingLeaves · 28/07/2026 18:52

Seethlaw · 27/07/2026 11:03

I'm sorry, I know you're annoyed, but my reaction was more along the lines of...

😂

I mean, it's one thing to create actual trans characters in media for children. But retroactively claiming that a character was trans all along? That's hilarious to me. Like, I imagine the teddy bear coming up to them in tears and asking them in a blubbering voice to please tell the world that they've been trans all these years, and nobody acknowledged them 😭

(This bit, though, did NOT make me laugh:

In 2022, the Shakespeare’s Globe staged a play about Joan of Arc, and the pronouns of the French patron saint were changed to “they/them” rather than “she/her” in promotional material.

HOW DARE THEY 😡!?)

It is pure misogyny and sexism to say that because a female is strong, clever and brave she must really be a man. The same goes for Queen Elizabeth 1.

In fact it is transactivist colonising. So is the Care Bears business.

Idiots must be running that museum and unfortunately it seems transing and ‘queering’ the exhibitions is the way to get attention for some museums and galleries.

CassOle · 28/07/2026 19:25

Hold the Daily Bugle presses! Spiderman is now trans!

And then they came for the teddy bears
AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 28/07/2026 23:51

GriseldaandMike · 28/07/2026 01:03

There is add problem of fish scales v cetacean swimming motion in mermaid depictions. If their lower half is that of a fish they should swim by moving their tails left/right but they are usually shown moving it up/down like a marine mammal. But if they are mammals they shouldn't have scales. So before we worry about how to sex a fish we first have to worry about whether mermaids are fish at all.

How do manatees swim? I ask because I've read that manatees are supposed to have inspired some of the myths of mermaids, and to have been mistaken for mermaids by confused sailors.

lcakethereforeIam · 29/07/2026 00:05

Manatees and dugongs swim by wafting their tails up and down.

columbus zoo manatee GIF by Nat Geo Wild
GriseldaandMike · 29/07/2026 07:35

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 28/07/2026 23:51

How do manatees swim? I ask because I've read that manatees are supposed to have inspired some of the myths of mermaids, and to have been mistaken for mermaids by confused sailors.

'Confused' sailors or sailors who had hit the rum ration a little too hard?

Uppy downy tail motion, no scales, not fish ( unless everything is a fish).

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 29/07/2026 08:33

Maybe mermaids are fish, but the human half has been stuck on to the tails sideways.

GriseldaandMike · 29/07/2026 10:24

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 29/07/2026 08:33

Maybe mermaids are fish, but the human half has been stuck on to the tails sideways.

Now I have a vision of a creationist workshop and the hapless apprentice saying "I've finished the merpeople and let them go, what can I do now?"

The great creator "come and help pop the the duck beaks and beaver tails in the stoat bodies please"

Apprentice "like this?"

Creator "No, you have to twist them on until they click"

Apprentice "ahh, erm were the merpeople tails the same because I just did them finger tight"

Creator "You should have turned until they clicked, their tails are on sideways now"

Apprentice "well looked at the whales and dolphins that you did and copied them".

Creator "no, no they have tails that fit completely differently, they go up and down with a horizontal fin. The mers had fish tails, should have been a vertical fin and side to side to swim. Oh well too late now, we just have to see if they work OK."

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 29/07/2026 10:57

This is the only possible explanation, and it explains everything.

This does mean that mer genitalia must be positioned on their apparent flanks, not their fronts.

lcakethereforeIam · 29/07/2026 12:46

Perhaps merpeople followed the same evolutionary path as flat fish? The various species evolved to lie flat on the seabed and, when they swim, their tails flap up and down. They hatch out looking like normal fish fry but one of their eyes migrates to the other side of their head as they mature and their bodies flatten out.

If this is correct I'd hate to go through merperson puberty.

I have no idea where the genitals of something like a turbot might be. I admit I've never given it much thought. Next time I eat out, I'll have to order a flat fish (probably not turbot, minimum catch size 41 cm, unless I'm really hungry) and do some dissecting. They don't have a fish counter at Tesco anymore...which is probably just as well.

The .gif has excelled.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 29/07/2026 12:53

SinnerBoy · 28/07/2026 12:33

FFS! They're bloody stuffed toys!

By the way, does that make Ethel Merman twans?

I’ve been wondering about Ethel the Merman.

GriseldaandMike · 29/07/2026 13:06

lcakethereforeIam · 29/07/2026 12:46

Perhaps merpeople followed the same evolutionary path as flat fish? The various species evolved to lie flat on the seabed and, when they swim, their tails flap up and down. They hatch out looking like normal fish fry but one of their eyes migrates to the other side of their head as they mature and their bodies flatten out.

If this is correct I'd hate to go through merperson puberty.

I have no idea where the genitals of something like a turbot might be. I admit I've never given it much thought. Next time I eat out, I'll have to order a flat fish (probably not turbot, minimum catch size 41 cm, unless I'm really hungry) and do some dissecting. They don't have a fish counter at Tesco anymore...which is probably just as well.

The .gif has excelled.

Hmm they would look even less like the supposed 'beautiful maidens' than manatees. None of the descriptions of mermaids I've read have mentioned both eyes being on the (same) side of their head.

lcakethereforeIam · 29/07/2026 13:10

I'm reminded of what the characters in Peppa Pig would look like in real life. Not the costumes that were designed so they wouldn't appear fucking horrific.

Scared Peppa Pig GIF
AngleofRepose · 29/07/2026 13:33

lcakethereforeIam · 29/07/2026 12:46

Perhaps merpeople followed the same evolutionary path as flat fish? The various species evolved to lie flat on the seabed and, when they swim, their tails flap up and down. They hatch out looking like normal fish fry but one of their eyes migrates to the other side of their head as they mature and their bodies flatten out.

If this is correct I'd hate to go through merperson puberty.

I have no idea where the genitals of something like a turbot might be. I admit I've never given it much thought. Next time I eat out, I'll have to order a flat fish (probably not turbot, minimum catch size 41 cm, unless I'm really hungry) and do some dissecting. They don't have a fish counter at Tesco anymore...which is probably just as well.

The .gif has excelled.

That gif is seriously creepy, Cake! 😮

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 29/07/2026 14:18

GriseldaandMike · 29/07/2026 13:06

Hmm they would look even less like the supposed 'beautiful maidens' than manatees. None of the descriptions of mermaids I've read have mentioned both eyes being on the (same) side of their head.

First of all we need to iron out (eh, see what I did there?) whether mermaids give birth to live young or whether they lay eggs. Then we can work out the path puberty takes.

Although, surely for humans and creatures with a human head, having eyes on the same surface is relatively normal? We have such small noses (at least compared to Peppa Pig) that our eyes are basically on the same side of our heads!

GriseldaandMike · 29/07/2026 14:28

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 29/07/2026 14:18

First of all we need to iron out (eh, see what I did there?) whether mermaids give birth to live young or whether they lay eggs. Then we can work out the path puberty takes.

Although, surely for humans and creatures with a human head, having eyes on the same surface is relatively normal? We have such small noses (at least compared to Peppa Pig) that our eyes are basically on the same side of our heads!

But but Icake's gif suggests on the side of their head as in next to their ear, rather than the front as they are in humans (and that's before we think about them starting at the front then mirgrating during puberty.)

😱

Echobelly · 29/07/2026 14:32

Who cares? A small arts organisation has suggested an idea, they're not demanding the whole world change its thinking. It's a thing art does, it suggests different ways of thinking about things that you can take it or leave it or laugh at if you want, but it's hardly worth anyone's outrage.

lcakethereforeIam · 29/07/2026 14:45

AngleofRepose · 29/07/2026 13:33

That gif is seriously creepy, Cake! 😮

It's very apt though.

If it happened to a humanoid the one eye would join its partner to the side of the nose like Peppa Pig or a Picasso painting. Unlike Peppa Pig, who has another two eyes and a mouth, the other side of the head would be blank.

Bored Modern Art GIF by unimpressionism
FlirtsWithRhinos · 29/07/2026 15:15

Echobelly · 29/07/2026 14:32

Who cares? A small arts organisation has suggested an idea, they're not demanding the whole world change its thinking. It's a thing art does, it suggests different ways of thinking about things that you can take it or leave it or laugh at if you want, but it's hardly worth anyone's outrage.

You know, in most cases I'd 100% agree with you.

But in the case of trans activist art, it's part of a movement that is demanding the whole world changes its thinking. A movement that seeks to remove rights and protections from probably the most consistently abused and exploited groups of humans (female people) and seeks to impose sexist redefintions of identity not just on the trans people who want them but on every single one of us.

This art is not challenging the establishment or power, it is celebrating and enforcing it.

It's not a 21st century equivalent to Dada, Guerilla Girls or AgitProp, it's the 21st century equivalent of salon art and pretty naked ladies, funded by the established and produced for an audience that wants to be affirmed not challenged.

JanesLittleGirl · 29/07/2026 16:45

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 29/07/2026 14:18

First of all we need to iron out (eh, see what I did there?) whether mermaids give birth to live young or whether they lay eggs. Then we can work out the path puberty takes.

Although, surely for humans and creatures with a human head, having eyes on the same surface is relatively normal? We have such small noses (at least compared to Peppa Pig) that our eyes are basically on the same side of our heads!

Mermaids have breasts so they suckle their young. I guess that means that the young are live-born.

ElenOfTheWays · 30/07/2026 05:39

FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/07/2026 12:37

In the original Japanese anime, Zoltar (Battle of the Planets) actually was trans.

Or possibly intersex, NB or gender fluid - s/he predates the labels. Definitely written to be both male and female though.

Gatchaman. They edited it as well as dubbing it when they re imagined it as Battle of The Planets for Western audiences. There was a lot more violence in the original I believe and 7Zark7 wasn't in it. He was added for the kids
As a kid, I always thought the main characters looked differently drawn when they appeared in his little batcave under the sea. I know why now

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