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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Quite deep cartoon for merkin flappers.

118 replies

lechiffre55 · 21/07/2026 18:24

I though some merkin flappers might enjoy this cartoon from FB.

Quite deep cartoon for merkin flappers.
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PrizedPickledPopcorn · Yesterday 15:17

I went to his site and had a look. There were some funny cartoons. Some really were sharp and pointed- but humour and commentary often are.
I might be missing the misogyny and antisemitism. I saw ‘anti religious’ posts, but they don’t particularly bother me. I’m Christian. I know other people don’t respect religion.

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of his cartoons which are by nature living in the borderline of acceptable, slip over the lines at times. I don’t think that makes him antisemitic or misogynist. Just that he misjudges the line at times. People do.

lechiffre55 · Yesterday 15:17

This is probably the most "anti-semitic" one I found in the time I could be bothered to scroll. All I'm seeing is criticism of USA's support of Israel in the Middle East conflicts.

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murasaki · Yesterday 15:18

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 15:15

I dont' feel ambivalent about Wagner. I fucking HATE Wagner, regardless of his politics.

Me too! I blame the parents. Too much at a young age. Mind you my sister expressed her hatred the best, but attempting to bust out of my mother at 8 months in utero during a day long production of the ring.

lechiffre55 · Yesterday 15:19

missed the image sorry

Quite deep cartoon for merkin flappers.
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murasaki · Yesterday 15:21

Princessblackberry · Yesterday 15:17

Is there a reason you're taking issue with me personally for highlighting this man is antisemitic? You may disagree but I don't know why you're imagining other opinions I'd have about you...? What a weird overreaction and assumption I'm even thinking about you...

Well you seem to be the only person saying that others shouldn't appreciate this cartoon separate to his other work.

I think it's possible to do that, you don't, fine. I would not like to be so absolutist.

lechiffre55 · Yesterday 15:22

Sorry are we assuming the artist's gender?
I thought that wasn't allowed?

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Princessblackberry · Yesterday 15:25

murasaki · Yesterday 15:21

Well you seem to be the only person saying that others shouldn't appreciate this cartoon separate to his other work.

I think it's possible to do that, you don't, fine. I would not like to be so absolutist.

I haven't said anyone should or shouldn't do anything. I've said some people may wish to be aware before they unknowingly amplify his work. As a Jewish woman I choose to be absolutist about antisemitism and misogyny. You do you.

murasaki · Yesterday 15:29

This cartoon is not misogynistic at all.

NowSober · Yesterday 15:30

Princessblackberry · Yesterday 15:25

I haven't said anyone should or shouldn't do anything. I've said some people may wish to be aware before they unknowingly amplify his work. As a Jewish woman I choose to be absolutist about antisemitism and misogyny. You do you.

So it's nothing to do with this cartoon taking the piss out of trans identifying men & all about cartoons that I haven't seen that are misogynistic & antisemitic?

lechiffre55 · Yesterday 15:31

You do realise that if you hadn't made such a big fuss that people would have just laughed at the cartoon and moved on. Now it's become a talking point, and keeping the thread going. You are generating publicity for the artist.

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Princessblackberry · Yesterday 15:44

lechiffre55 · Yesterday 15:17

This is probably the most "anti-semitic" one I found in the time I could be bothered to scroll. All I'm seeing is criticism of USA's support of Israel in the Middle East conflicts.

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Please don't go on a mission to post antisemitic memes here to decide if any of them are antisemitic "enough" for you. He has multiple that have holocaust denial myths and lots of anti Israel memes that contain antisemitic tropes.

Princessblackberry · Yesterday 15:45

lechiffre55 · Yesterday 15:31

You do realise that if you hadn't made such a big fuss that people would have just laughed at the cartoon and moved on. Now it's become a talking point, and keeping the thread going. You are generating publicity for the artist.

No you're generating publicity by posting his work. I'm just making people aware he hates Jews.

Princessblackberry · Yesterday 15:46

NowSober · Yesterday 15:30

So it's nothing to do with this cartoon taking the piss out of trans identifying men & all about cartoons that I haven't seen that are misogynistic & antisemitic?

Is there a reason you are so anti anyone being against antisemitism that you're arguing to stop me sharing my opinion and trying to twist my intentions? I can't possibly be GC if I post against spreading artists who propagate antisemitism? Ridiculous purity spiral

NowSober · Yesterday 15:51

Princessblackberry · Yesterday 15:46

Is there a reason you are so anti anyone being against antisemitism that you're arguing to stop me sharing my opinion and trying to twist my intentions? I can't possibly be GC if I post against spreading artists who propagate antisemitism? Ridiculous purity spiral

LOL What is a ridiculous purity spiral is coming on here decrying other works by this guy when we were just laughing at this particular cartoon. I haven't seen these misogynistic & antisemitic cartoons nor do want to. I wouldn't even know they existed if you hadn't highlighted the fact.

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 16:03

murasaki · Yesterday 15:18

Me too! I blame the parents. Too much at a young age. Mind you my sister expressed her hatred the best, but attempting to bust out of my mother at 8 months in utero during a day long production of the ring.

Wow. The only thing worse than watching The Ring Cycle would be watching it while in active labour.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 16:12

Princessblackberry · Yesterday 14:52

I'm speaking from seeing his other artworks...Are misogyny and antisemitism ever funny to you?

I'm only commenting on the cartoon in the OP and using a Wiki entry to call someone names, I don't know their work, and not that interested in following up on their work.

Princessblackberry · Yesterday 16:14

NowSober · Yesterday 15:51

LOL What is a ridiculous purity spiral is coming on here decrying other works by this guy when we were just laughing at this particular cartoon. I haven't seen these misogynistic & antisemitic cartoons nor do want to. I wouldn't even know they existed if you hadn't highlighted the fact.

I disagree, I think anyone who is reminding people that they're sharing and amplifying an antisemitic artist means they're not GC is an odd purity spiral. You may not want to see the others, but you also may share his work and wonder why your Jewish friends take issue. As you say if no one tells you what stops a piece of work going viral with everyone sharing it not knowing they're spreading an antisemite. I don't think antisemitism is ever a purity spiral issue to be against, especially in this climate but you do you.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 16:14

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 15:15

I dont' feel ambivalent about Wagner. I fucking HATE Wagner, regardless of his politics.

I love the Ride of the Valkyries.

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 16:15

'reminding people that they're sharing and amplifying an antisemitic artist means they're not GC'

Eh?

lechiffre55 · Yesterday 16:29

Princessblackberry · Yesterday 15:44

Please don't go on a mission to post antisemitic memes here to decide if any of them are antisemitic "enough" for you. He has multiple that have holocaust denial myths and lots of anti Israel memes that contain antisemitic tropes.

I've not posted anything antisemitic on here. You mischaracterise my intent in saying "don't go on a mission to post antisemitic memes". An accusation was made of antisemitism, I was off to see for myself. Your choice to mischaracterise my intent hints to me of bad faith argument.

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BiologicalRobot · Yesterday 16:30

SquelchyFelch · Yesterday 14:58

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OldCrone · Yesterday 16:45

Princessblackberry · Yesterday 15:45

No you're generating publicity by posting his work. I'm just making people aware he hates Jews.

You've given him more publicity than anyone else on here. If we'd just stuck to laughing at the cartoon in the OP, I doubt that any of us would have looked at his website. I went and had a look after your posts just to see if there was any substance in what you were saying.

I'd never have given the website a click if it hadn't been for your posts. The Streisand effect in action. Does he pay you for the publicity? He should.

Princessblackberry · Yesterday 17:03

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 16:15

'reminding people that they're sharing and amplifying an antisemitic artist means they're not GC'

Eh?

Sentences tend to make more sense when you read them in their entirety not quote half our of context

Princessblackberry · Yesterday 17:10

OldCrone · Yesterday 16:45

You've given him more publicity than anyone else on here. If we'd just stuck to laughing at the cartoon in the OP, I doubt that any of us would have looked at his website. I went and had a look after your posts just to see if there was any substance in what you were saying.

I'd never have given the website a click if it hadn't been for your posts. The Streisand effect in action. Does he pay you for the publicity? He should.

Ah yes, publicity that you're a neo nazi antisemite is such positive publicity . You may not have looked at his website but someone else may have and may not be aware how harmful antisemitic tropes are. I mean OP already said they don't think anti Israeli memes are necessarily antisemitic even in this climate. You just seem mad people made it clear he's a nazi, which I think should be more.public knowledge then maybe people might see his memes and think before sharing them. You're applying a very weird double standard here, I've found out about lots of people's dangerous comments about women on this forum no one has ever suggested they're giving the person publicity when they highlight anti woman things someone has said but point out someone's a nazi and you're acting like I've ruined your day. Disagree and think a silly cartoon is so worth defending against misogyny and Jew hate with your whole chest of you want - but your argument I'm somehow boosting his career by pointing out his antisemitism says more about you then me.

MarieDeGournay · Yesterday 17:12

I suppose when you know something - and Princessblackberry knows things about Stone Toss that I didn't - it's impossible to un-know it.

It's just a funny and perceptive cartoon to many, but it's part of the oeuvre of someone who has produced racist and antisemitic work to others, e.g. Princessblackberry.

I hope you don't mind me speaking for/about you like this but I presume Princessblackberry can't go back to not knowing his other work, and taking his cartoons lightly.

Neither can I, now. But there are plenty more cartoonists in the seaSmile