What a delightful “young woman” comments on Widdecombe death

[Deanefan]

Directed to this by a friend from Aberdeen
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/16536795/heather-herbert-ann-widdecombe-death-comments/

I've seen a few facebook posts/news reports about this. Under every one the marjority of comments point out that Herbert is a man.

I was just about to say the same. Every report I have seen, including Metro, the comment section is dominated by comments pointing out he's a man.

Good.

If Ann was from a minority group he/she would have been arrested and charged for sure.

I’m wondering if it’s more like the case of the men who carried out the arson attacks on Starmer - recruited online and tasked to cause fear and alarm.

I did wonder whether he was posting violent rhetoric before this murder. The accused looks like he may have been radicalised online, so there police could start to look at potential sources of online radicalisation. In any case, I hope he gets some heat. That is a very odd thing to say about someone who was thought to have died off natural causes.

@dapsnotplimsolls Your last thread 2 filled up.Would you start a thread 3 please.

Interestingly the London Evening standard tried to blame the feeble turnout at "Pride" this year on Westminster Council, when plainly actual gay and lesbian people stayed away from whst is clearly an embarassing sh*tshow of sexual deviance and poor mental health.

Universities should be able to "harbour" employees and students with all kinds of views on politics, ideology, culture etc etc. As long as all members of a uniersity stay within the legal limits on discrimination & hate speech.

The problem is that there's subtle pressure on those with views to the right of the centre to keep quiet. And there's overt pressure on feminists who understand the difference between sex (biological) and gender (culturally constructed) to STFU or lose their jobs.

Nowt wrong with holding gender extremist/TRA views, as long as those don't impinge on others' legal rights. I mean, gender extremist ideologuy is sexist & racist of course, but we have to allow people their beliefs, as wrong as those might be.

The real problem in universities is when the gender extremists try to shut opposition or debate down, ether physically eg. the physical mobbing & hounding of Professor Stock, or threatening their jobs - many many women across UK HE (including me) have had that happen.

Sorry, I can't face more drive-by scoldings. There's another AW thread that's still active.

You're certainly right about pressure on right wingers, which is one of the reasons I was happy to get out early. You're treated as an outcast if, heaven forbid, your colleagues find out you're right wing It's not an environment that's conducive to free thinking - for all. That's why there needs to be a massive change but it's too deep rooted now.

I imagine that as it's now being investigated as possible terrorism the police doing the questioning may be different. Sad times.

They were Russian assets. Doubt they would be anti Reform, and unlikely they would target Anne Widdecombe. More like they would orchestrate a ' failed assassination attempt' on Farage, Trump like not that I'm saying all the people with terrible shots who've had a pop at Trump were fake assassins.

The worst thing is that Stock and other feminists aren't even ' right wing' They are traditional Left but the extremist identitarian Left have decided that anyone who disagrees with them is ' Right wing'.

While being in full on denial themselves that their own politics and beliefs have become quite worryingly right wing. It's DARVO of course. And the kind of mindlessness where words mean nothing, it's all about vibes.

Totally. I worked somewhere where you could fall foul of what were basically workplace bullies by saying you liked the “wrong” music because, I dunno, the base guitarist once read a Harry Potter book. Unless you were displaying all your woke credentials for all to see there were endless traps set. It was very much If you’re not with us you’re against us.

Containment breach!

The press are now reporting about previous online threats and abuse and about the polycule.

Uni worker probed over Widdecombe death jibes in 'bullets threat' video with pal
Susan Smith, of the prominent For Women Scotland group, said action needs to be taken over extreme views now coming to light from Herbert and other trans campaigners involved in the Aberdeenshire-based “Polycule”. For Women Scotland campaigner Smith claim she and her colleagues have been called child abusers, terrorists and bigots by Herbert and other campaigners on a web channel called the Polycule.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/aberdeen-uni-worker-probed-over-37430779

I attended an event, almost twenty years ago, 'An Evening with Anne Widdicombe', in Liverpool's Lyceum ballroom. She'd just started to become more of a feature on Tv news programmes and so I went along out of curiosity, and as something of a novelty. I found her to be warm, engaging, entertaining and authentic.....even if some of her views were a bit too much for my taste.
It is entirely possible to appreciate, and have respect for people whose political views you disagree with - certainly if they are decent and basically good human beings.

The measure of a decent human being is in how they behave and how they treat other people in their daily lives ( including how they speak about other people), not in what they say on social media or based on which set of political doctrines they subscribe to.

Isn't Sophie Molly the delicate flower that the GLP chose to champion in allegedly defamatory posts that they're now being taken to court for? I hope none of this damages their defence as Sarah Philimore comes for them. That would be dreadful for they/them

Also that's very nearly an upskirting!!! <faints>

I wonder if they’ll have an info box “what is a polycule” 😂

Bit like Ann then. Except she didn't really subscribe to social media as she was old school. Sensible woman.

Here is an example of friendly left wing politics. Dartford councillor Ricky Jones, with a megaphone, inciting a crowd of hundreds, to cut the throats of right wing people.

Its not about left or right wing. It is about maturity. The violence and threats of violence are probably about too much internet and possibly about too much strong cannabis.

Widdicombe had her views, but she was clearly able to enter into a respectful debate with people with different views. People with maturity can do this. disagree with someone and use that debate to test your own beliefs.

The thought police approach where there is only one correct view and anyone who disagrees is phobic is both simplistic and dangerous.

That's not Sophie Molly in the photo in the Daily Record, it's Poppy Bear.