US Supreme Court allows states to ban trans identified players from sexed sports competition & teams that do not align with that players birth sex

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https://x.com/scotusblog/status/2071957539931967495?s=46

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-43_2b35.pdf

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/06/30/us/supreme-court-trans-athletes?unlocked_article_code=1.uFA.j_M3.MAlRQCZzu4Eu&smid=nytcore-android-share

6/3 exactly along the political lines. How did the left leave peoples rights behind like this?

Sports and college applications is about more than being recruited though. My son wasn't being recruited anywhere for sport but it certainly made his application stronger for his stretch school that he was able to put in 4 year varsity player on a team. So yeah a girl being able to say "I was on the JV and then the Varsity soccer team for my high school" will add something to her application and not being able to say it because a boy is on the teams instead of her will take something from her application.

I somewhat agree with this, although if you aren't being recruited, being on a team helps because it shows dedication. Any good extracurricular activity will do that. So if you get cut, find another activity to show that you're involved with your school or community. A charity is always impressive, if someone is interested in that.

Girls shouldn't be forced to do that to accommodate boys though.

But ultimately you're just proving my point here. Among active political circles, no dissent is tolerated. It's absolutely extraordinary.

Also, the bottom of that paragraph contains the following:

"To use language to obscure reality—to show “indifference regarding the truth”—
is to lie to the public and cease to treat our fellow citizens
“as equal[s].”"

So let the boy who doesn’t want to play on the boys team or who isn’t good enough find that alternative activity rather than muscling into the girls team.

I never said that. I'm addressing the point that transwomen "steal college places from females", not the fairness for girls in high school.

Hmm. That is only if it is a choice by the girls, and not because their fair sports and opportunities have been lost to the because they have now been appropriated for the service of boys. Not to mention the flashing and peeping element of changing rooms. People (legislators, and sports trainers) are enabling sexual offending against girls.

It is certainly a ridiculous situation if boys get to compete against other boys, or if they don’t want that, plonk themselves like cuckoos into girls sports. However, girls who are deprived of any fair sports (unlike boys who can insert themselves into everything) have to just accept this and do something else.

It is the boys who don’t want to compete against other boys who could find something else to do rather than colonising girls sports. Cheating boys, and their enablers/accomplices, should just leave girls and their sports alone.

I somewhat agree with this, although if you aren't being recruited, being on a team helps because it shows dedication. Any good extracurricular activity will do that. So if you get cut, find another activity to show that you're involved with your school or community. A charity is always impressive, if someone is interested in that.

Seriously - go find a charity??? If you get "cut" (don't you mean replaced by a boy) then find something else to do??? Why doesn't HE find something else to do. Why don't the boys trying out for the girls' teams "find a charity".

I'm not sure when you last went through a college application process but most kids volunteer (many high schools have it as a requirement for graduation - all three of mine at 3 different schools couldn't graduate without minimum volunteer hours), are members of clubs, part of debate or model UN or feminist alliance or school newpaper or drama club or their local church or whatever as well as playing sports.

Yeah, thekeatingfive, it does prove your point - but it also shows that what people profess and what they actually think are in some cases different and there are some politicians not afraid to call it out. And when they do, the average joe voter is with them. I have some hope - that's all.

Amazing.

I haven't helped anyone apply to college in years but I knew someone who recently worked in admissions in a selective uni in the US and several people whose children are now in uni in the US so what I say is based on that.

I know that many US high schools require charity work but it is usually fairly minimal. You need to do much more to show dedication. If that's not an interest, do research or something else you're passionate about.

Again, I'm not addressing whether transgirls should be able to participate in high school sports, only that I don't think that transgirls are stealing college spaces from cis girls.

There are no cis girls

Thank you, that is so powerfully stated.

Girls shouldn't be forced to chnge to somethin that they don't like as much as sport to accomadate a cheating male.

That the NCAA has changed its policy doesn't change the damage that it has doen to some girls applications to colleges etc.

Finally these girls have trained hard for years only to have pplaces and sponsership taken off them by males.

Nobody should dismiss this lightly by saying that they should just do something else.

Have you read the justices’ reasoning? Are you aware of Thomas’ judicial reputation?
What a patronising, ill informed comment.

People like you, who can apparently see the truth regarding the trans issue, but in an apparent demonstration of the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect, dutifully fall into line on all other liberal issues are partly why we find ourselves in this situation.

I agree, the left world view is unpinned entirely by postmodern philosophy, some people have spotted the one head of the hydra but are blind to all the other ones.
If you recognise how wrong GI is and you want to fight it you have to give the party that is doing the fighting back your support. If you continue to support the party that is committed to doing the wrong thing, then you might as well give up and go home because you're not fighting back your an enabler and part of the problem.

So they might not be stealing places from “cis” girls, whoever they are, but they are stealing places from girls.

I've already said that I agree that transgirls shouldn't be in girls loos or changing rooms. I completely agree with that. I also said more than once that I am not addressing the fairness aspect, only whether transgirls take uni spots from girls. (I used cis girls bc I thought that if I used girls in that case, it would be unclear if I was including transgirls in the category of girls. Unlike many here, cis doesn't bother me, but I try not to use it unless I need to make it clear that transgirls are excluded from the group I'm referring to.)

Where do you think I said any of what you said above? I think it's unfair for transgirls to compete in girls sports but I don't think they take girls spots at unis.

E.g., a friend's daughter was cut from a high school team, not bc of a transgirl but bc she lost to other girls. She then started volunteering more at a local shelter. She got more responsibilities, organised new adoption days, and made a website to help identify potential adopters for animals in all the county's shelters. She got a strong letter of recommendation from the head of the shelter. That made her application stand out much more than a similar number of hours playing sports would have and she loved doing it.

If she'd lost to a transgirl, I agree it wouldn't have been fair but I still think that her uni applications would have been stronger if she'd volunteered (as she did) than if she'd played the sport all four years.

Again, I'm not arguing that transgirls playing in girls sports is fair, only that they don't take girls places at uni. That is based on my friends' experiences, including the one that worked in admissions.

I used cis girls bc I thought that if I used girls in that case, it would be unclear if I was including transgirls in the category of girls.

This is where simply girls vs transgirls or females vs transgirls comes into play. Or even girls vs trans identified boys. There is 3 choices right there, just off the top off my head in 30 seconds. There really is no need to use 'cis' if you put even a slight amount of thought into it.

The thing is, “cis” is meaningless ideological jargon used by genderists. So called “trans girls” are boys. People will object to the use of “cis” because it implies girls come in two sexes and moreover using your own ideological terms for disbelievers in your ideology is a bit presumptuous. There’s no such thing as a “trans girl”. They’re boys who claim to be girls.

If you mean me by "your own ideological terms", I'm gender critical so it's not my term. I use it when I think it adds clarity. [ETA I think that clarity is only needed bc TWAW has muddied the waters.] You're free to disagree. I know many on FWR don't like it.

'Cis' is a 'trans' status, by using it you are accepting that females are just a subset of their own sex/gender.
Using any terminology that reduces or erases female's is not acceptable to a lot of women. We did not agree to being reduced to a 'trans' status, if you want to make yourself clear, then put some more effort into it.
Words count, I think you'll find the whole reason why the Alphabetties have invented a whole new lexicon is so they can control the narrative to normalise the abnormal. Every time you use their terminology you further their cause.

There is no such thing as Gender Identity, it's made up bollocks, there no such thing as a 'trans' child, they are victims of a cult that has been given state sanction access to them.

In the US or Canada, has there ever been a case where a male who identifies as trans gained a scholarship for university/college by being successful in the female sporting category?

What @TheywontletmehavethenameIwant said.

I was speaking in general when I said “you”. I don’t think the adoption of the term is helpful and I’ll continue to challenge it being normalised whether by genderists or not.