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The Bluestocking: home of the ice-cold Mojito foot-bath

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MarieDeGournay · 29/06/2026 18:06

Welcome all to the Bluestocking Women's Pub, where food and drink are free as in gluten free, calorie free, alcohol free - but still delicious. And free free too, of course.
Served by highly professional staff who are gerbils.

The Bluestocking Ice-Cold Mojito Foot-bath kept us deliciously cool through the heatwave. Come and join us, in case there's another one🌞

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MyrtleLion · 04/07/2026 00:03

There is a new and fucking perfect gif.

It needs to be in the Bluestocking's repertoire.

For context, this amazing young woman is a Croatian supporter very angry that the Croatian equaliser was disallowed (which would have led to extra time and the possibility they might have won)

But her "fuck you" is so perfectly the image of a woman who has had enough, it doesn't matter why se said it.

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AsWithGlad · 04/07/2026 01:02

Sooty said nothing and always seemed to be holding a wand nobody had seen her pick up.

That shows what assumptions I had made, and whoever wrote the Wikipedia page did, too. DH edits bits of Wikipedia sometimes, I'm not sure he'd change that, though, he probably thought the same.

@Hedgehogforshort wrote
"And it seems that the tribunal was in fact instigated by ghosts up on high, and i mean under secretary level. The players in this claim are just patsies."

I've only recently become aware of this tribunal, and have only read threads 4 and 5. In my speed reading to catch up I had missed that, so thank you very much, Hedgie.

I have applied to observe the tribunal with Sex Matters as the claimant on July 8&9, thanks to it being mentioned on the current tribunal threads. It's taking me back to the days of observing Sandie Peggie, Maria Kelly and the Darlington nurses.

Chickadeeinme · 04/07/2026 03:25

Loving the Croatian “fuck you” @MyrtleLion :-)

FuzzyPuffling · 04/07/2026 08:45

Kitty, our cats play "pawball" too. It must be an official term.

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/07/2026 09:02

FuzzyPuffling · 04/07/2026 08:45

Kitty, our cats play "pawball" too. It must be an official term.

If it wasn’t it is now, Fuzzy.

EdithStourton · 04/07/2026 10:01

I am channelling the Croatian woman, very strongly.

Peletons of cyclists 😡😡
The first group I came up behind on my way to town this morning, fine. Cycling defensively which I 100% understand (I've cycled a fair bit in my life, a lot of it on lanes). I held back, they turned off, all good.

I encountered three groups on my way home, all coming towards me. First lot, I was able to pull right over into a long concrete gateway and slow right down. Jolly shout of 'Thank you!' from the woman at the front and several raised hands from the men behind her.

Next lot, I was coming round a bend. That lane is very narrow, and I was in it's-the-weekend-pootle mode, so I wasn't zooming. I braked quite hard and pulled right over. The lead cyclist made hand-flagging slow down signals, as if I wasn't already doing under 20mph. I had my nearside wheels right over in the gravel at the edge of the road, but the last one of the group stabbed his finger to indicate that I should pull over more. Where the hell to? I'm not hieing a tiny car up onto a verge with unknown bumps and drainage gulleys on his sodding say-so.

I drove off feeling really quite cross.

A few hundred yards on, yet more bloody cyclists, tipping round the corner into the lane as if there might not be cars, horses, pedestrians and farm machinery out and about. One of them in the front 3 was right over on my side of the road. I had to brake even more, and swerve, and I stalled the car as he wobbled back out of my way. I blew my horn, because he'd been stupidly dangerous. Did any of them coming along behind indicate any gratitude that I was right out of their way and stationary? Like buggery they did.

I got home raging and slightly shaken. I'm happy to extend courtesy to cyclists - slow down, pull over, return thank-you waves - but the ones who treat the lanes with absolute entitlement really, really piss me off.

Rant over. Now for a nice cup of tea.

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/07/2026 10:17

As a non-driver I tend to not care what cyclists do as long as they don’t do it on non-shared pavements. But I can see that would be incredibly annoying, @EdithStourton.

I got to bed sometime after midnight & Kitty woke me around 5 wanting her breakfast. I got another couple of hours sleep after feeding her but today is still going to require a lot of coffee.

Thehorticulturalhussie · 04/07/2026 10:39

EdithStourton · 04/07/2026 10:01

I am channelling the Croatian woman, very strongly.

Peletons of cyclists 😡😡
The first group I came up behind on my way to town this morning, fine. Cycling defensively which I 100% understand (I've cycled a fair bit in my life, a lot of it on lanes). I held back, they turned off, all good.

I encountered three groups on my way home, all coming towards me. First lot, I was able to pull right over into a long concrete gateway and slow right down. Jolly shout of 'Thank you!' from the woman at the front and several raised hands from the men behind her.

Next lot, I was coming round a bend. That lane is very narrow, and I was in it's-the-weekend-pootle mode, so I wasn't zooming. I braked quite hard and pulled right over. The lead cyclist made hand-flagging slow down signals, as if I wasn't already doing under 20mph. I had my nearside wheels right over in the gravel at the edge of the road, but the last one of the group stabbed his finger to indicate that I should pull over more. Where the hell to? I'm not hieing a tiny car up onto a verge with unknown bumps and drainage gulleys on his sodding say-so.

I drove off feeling really quite cross.

A few hundred yards on, yet more bloody cyclists, tipping round the corner into the lane as if there might not be cars, horses, pedestrians and farm machinery out and about. One of them in the front 3 was right over on my side of the road. I had to brake even more, and swerve, and I stalled the car as he wobbled back out of my way. I blew my horn, because he'd been stupidly dangerous. Did any of them coming along behind indicate any gratitude that I was right out of their way and stationary? Like buggery they did.

I got home raging and slightly shaken. I'm happy to extend courtesy to cyclists - slow down, pull over, return thank-you waves - but the ones who treat the lanes with absolute entitlement really, really piss me off.

Rant over. Now for a nice cup of tea.

Couldn't agree more. We and most of our neighbours now have dashcams because of the bloody cyclists. Our village has a 20mph limit but apparently it doesn't apply to cyclists (or women yes, honestly, on the school run into and out of the village)
We have very narrow roads and no pavements so everyone should be very mindful of dog walkers, horses and kids but the cyclists come hurtling down the hill at around 40mph, as clocked by the community speed watch. Having ridden several miles of uninhabited countryside to get here, they find it necessary to shout to each other on the way through about random shit unrelated to their ride. And going uphill they will never ever EVER stop to let the vehicles behind them get past. It's not uncommon at the weekend to follow them for 8 miles to the nearest main road.

Thank you @MyrtleLion for that brilliant gif. I now identify as Croatian.

MyrtleLion · 04/07/2026 10:45

Taylor Swift was getting married that night, in a castle, inside Madison Square Garden.

Nobody at the Bluestocking questioned this. It was simply the shape the day had taken.

"A castle?" said Gertrude, lowering her teacup.

"Inside Madison Square Garden," confirmed Gossip, polishing her spectacles as if that settled the engineering of it.

Gertrude considered the improbability of this for exactly one second, decided it was beneath further discussion, and stood up.

"Well," she said. "Best get on with it."

By 08:23 the entire pub had accepted this as the single most important fact of the year.

The celebrations began immediately.

"CASTLE!" shrieked Gwendolen, sprinting across the bar with a tray of cinnamon buns.

"CASTLE WEDDING!" cried Geraldine.

"CITADEL OF ROMANCE!" yelled Gladys, who never knowingly underreacted to anything.

Within minutes the pub had acquired banners reading:

CONGRATULATIONS, TAYLOR!

LONG LIVE THE CASTLE!

WE SUPPORT ARCHITECTURAL COMMITMENT!

TAYLOR'S VERSION (OF EVERYTHING, TONIGHT)

THIRTEEN LUCKY YEARS TO THE BOTH OF YOU

Nobody was entirely sure why the architecture was receiving quite so much praise alongside the bride, but once the gerbils become enthusiastic about something, nuance generally leaves the building, and it left it at speed.

Friendship bracelets appeared from nowhere, in their hundreds, and were traded hand to hand across the bar with the solemnity of a much older ritual. Gossip alone was wearing eleven by lunchtime and refusing to explain the twelfth, which she said was "reserved."

Is there an actual castle inside Madison Square Garden?

There is now.

Nobody at the Bluestocking asked how. Asking how was, as ever, considered impolite, and besides, there wasn't time. Clara took charge of the beer garden without waiting to be asked twice, hauling barrels and beams into place with the calm, unstoppable momentum of someone who had already decided, privately, exactly how a castle ought to look. By lunchtime there was a magnificent stone fortress complete with battlements, towers, a working drawbridge lowered across two beer crates, and a moat, and Clara sat astride the topmost tower admiring her own work, entirely satisfied.

Nobody pursued the matter further. Some things simply arrive finished.

"I thought we'd all dress up," said Glitter, appearing in a tiny silver tiara and an amount of sequins that violated at least two laws of physics.

She had underestimated the scale of what she was about to unleash.

Through the castle's gatehouse came the first of the gowns. Ginger went first, because Ginger always goes first, in a dress built almost entirely of ribbon and confidence, its train so long it required its own dedicated wombat to keep it off the floor. She twirled at the base of the drawbridge to a roar of approval, and kept twirling well past the point anyone required further evidence.

Behind her came the suits — ivory, cream, a soft champagne white, cut sharp and worn by whichever gerbils had decided, without discussion, that they fancied being the bride tonight and would dress accordingly. Gimlet led them in a white suit tailored to the exact degree of correctness she demanded of everything, a single flower already at the lapel that she had not put there herself and declined to comment on. Gratuity followed in ivory with excellent pockets, which she pointed out, unprompted, to everyone she passed.

Then the eras began arriving properly. One patron came through in black and gold, sharp-shouldered, unmistakably a Reputation bride. Another followed in pale lavender chiffon, barefoot, flowers in her hair, an unmistakable Lover bride. A third arrived in an oversized cardigan worn as a wedding gown, entirely sincere about it, to general and tearful approval. Genial wore white and entirely too much tulle, beaming at every patron individually as though each one were personally responsible for her happiness. Gossip wore something dramatic and faintly implausible, already claiming to have designed it herself overnight, purely from instinct and spite.

Between them walked patrons of every kind the Bluestocking has ever held, in white, in slate-grey suits with buttonholes of garden roses, in colours that had no business working together and worked anyway, arm in arm, laughing, radiant. Even Colin the dachshund had a velvet cloak with little embroidered stars, and paraded the length of the drawbridge as though the entire event had been arranged in his honour. Nobody had the heart to correct him.

Gertrude organised a string quartet.

Unfortunately the quartet consisted of four enthusiastic guinea pigs who knew only the opening eight bars of "Love Story."

They played it continuously for nearly an hour, while the procession circled the moat a second time, and then a third, for good measure.

Nobody had the heart to stop them either.

By early evening the party was in full swing.

Swimming-pool-sized vats of prosecco appeared. Heart-shaped biscuits. Tower-shaped cakes. Castle-shaped sandwiches, each flying a tiny paper banner. Someone had sculpted a dragon entirely from cheese and dressed it in a friendship bracelet of its own. The Giant Wombat declared the whole spread "artistically significant" before quietly eating one wing off the dragon.

Griselda, watching it all from the drawbridge with a glass of something sparkling, allowed herself a rare smile.

"Well," she said. "It's certainly a wedding."

The final touch began as a sound before it was anything else — a low, rising hum from somewhere above the castle, that made the pennants stir and the drawbridge chains sing faintly against their crates.

The air wing came in low over the battlements, in formation, trailing gold and ivory. Then the confetti fell — not thrown, not dropped from a single hand, but released in great drifting sheets from somewhere far above, catching the lantern light as it came down, settling on shoulders and ivory suits and gowns, on Clara still perched happily on the topmost tower, on Colin's little cloak, on every friendship bracelet in the room.

Nobody asked whose airspace this was. The pub simply turned its face upward and let it happen, with total sincerity and not a flicker of surprise, cheering loudly enough that it could probably be heard clear across town, to whichever castle — real or otherwise — was hosting the actual bride that night.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/taylors-wedding

The Bluestocking: home of the ice-cold Mojito foot-bath
EdithStourton · 04/07/2026 10:56

@Thehorticulturalhussie hmm, dash cam, there's a thought. Because if the bloke this morning had ploughed into me, it would have been my word against 8-10 cyclists.

DH has had similar issues. As has DD.
<goes to check cost of dash cams>

DauntlessDamson · 04/07/2026 11:03

EdithStourton · 04/07/2026 10:01

I am channelling the Croatian woman, very strongly.

Peletons of cyclists 😡😡
The first group I came up behind on my way to town this morning, fine. Cycling defensively which I 100% understand (I've cycled a fair bit in my life, a lot of it on lanes). I held back, they turned off, all good.

I encountered three groups on my way home, all coming towards me. First lot, I was able to pull right over into a long concrete gateway and slow right down. Jolly shout of 'Thank you!' from the woman at the front and several raised hands from the men behind her.

Next lot, I was coming round a bend. That lane is very narrow, and I was in it's-the-weekend-pootle mode, so I wasn't zooming. I braked quite hard and pulled right over. The lead cyclist made hand-flagging slow down signals, as if I wasn't already doing under 20mph. I had my nearside wheels right over in the gravel at the edge of the road, but the last one of the group stabbed his finger to indicate that I should pull over more. Where the hell to? I'm not hieing a tiny car up onto a verge with unknown bumps and drainage gulleys on his sodding say-so.

I drove off feeling really quite cross.

A few hundred yards on, yet more bloody cyclists, tipping round the corner into the lane as if there might not be cars, horses, pedestrians and farm machinery out and about. One of them in the front 3 was right over on my side of the road. I had to brake even more, and swerve, and I stalled the car as he wobbled back out of my way. I blew my horn, because he'd been stupidly dangerous. Did any of them coming along behind indicate any gratitude that I was right out of their way and stationary? Like buggery they did.

I got home raging and slightly shaken. I'm happy to extend courtesy to cyclists - slow down, pull over, return thank-you waves - but the ones who treat the lanes with absolute entitlement really, really piss me off.

Rant over. Now for a nice cup of tea.

Totally agree Edith

The Tour de France is due to come through the North West next year and every time I venture out into the hills, there are peletons of cyclists who think the race has already started, many of them wearing yellow vests.

In their dreams!

As an aside I used to live in an an area that was on the training route for the Sky team when they were winning everything. Their cyclists were always well together and conscious of other road users.

DauntlessDamson · 04/07/2026 11:13

Love the gerbils' foray into wedding planning! 😁

Magpiecomplex · 04/07/2026 11:15

DauntlessDamson · 04/07/2026 11:13

Love the gerbils' foray into wedding planning! 😁

Glitter is my spirit gerbil, of course. I'm assuming the air wing was me, Fuzzy, Chickadee, Errol et al...

MarieDeGournay · 04/07/2026 11:25

Morning all! It's after 11, the alarm did not go off at 7am, I did not have to have a quick shower and get dressed and appear totally compos whatsit by the time the workmen arrived and the noise started, two days of peace and quiet, then a bit of tweaking and tidying on Monday, and my space will be mine again🎉

I'm sitting here with a Brew catching up on fairy tale weddings and fairy tale endings [Cape Verde eventually beaten by Messi and Argentina, but only AET, so it still counts as a fairy tale].
The gerbil wedding looks wonderful - everybody gets to wear what they want, and nobody actually gets married😄
The music - opening bars of the theme from Love Story on repeat sounds a bit...challenging - would the opening bars of Fur Elise on repeat have been better or worse?? - but otherwise the Gerbil Wedding puts Taylor's in the ha'penny placeSmile
Excellent work by the Glitter Wing, jolly good show, cheps, all tirribly well co-ordindated by the gels in Glitter Command😁

Last night I ordered A Child's Garden of Verses, with illustrations by Jessie Wilcox Smith, I'm so looking forward to both the words and the pictures.
Thank you Fuzzy, that's all because you quoted some lines from itSmile

I'm sorry you had a bad encounter with cyclists, Edith. Cyclists, same as everybody, should be reasonable and safe on the roadFlowers

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MyrtleLion · 04/07/2026 11:40

I love your updates so much, @MarieDeGournay.

I do hope you can enjoy your two days off from workmen and that you get your house back to yourself after Monday xx

Waitwhat23 · 04/07/2026 11:42

There's no pavements outwith the main streets of my rural village, so if you are walking to the next village/path etc, you need to walk on the road. Everyone follows the rules (face traffic, step onto verge if needed, keep dogs close etc) but we still get pelatons of lyra clad wankers from the nearby cycling club, shouting at pedestrians to 'get off the fucking road'.

They've been so consistently unpleasant that local farmers driving farm machinery, who used to pull off to let them past as a courtesy, now refuse to.

DauntlessDamson · 04/07/2026 11:46

Enjoy your peaceful weekend Marie, it sounds like you needed a lie-in.

I rather liked the white tail suits in the wedding picture. I'd rather wear one of those than a meringue of a dress.

MyrtleLion · 04/07/2026 11:48

I was offered a small non-executive director role for no money and I was very excited.

And then I put on my due diligence hat and checked the accounts going back 15 years, and the contract, and what was filed at Companies House and what was on their terrible website.

Aside from being in deficit for the whole period apart from the first year of incorporation, which was a huge red flag, the biggest issue was there was no clause in the contract indemnifying me by the company. Instead I am expected to get my own public indemnity insurance.

That in itself is fine, if I’m giving advice and a company relies on it, and it’s bad advice, I’m insured in case they sue me.

But as a non-executive director, I am liable if the company becomes insolvent and any creditors can come after me and/or the company. So it is expected that the company takes out insurance to indemnify me against losses. And that should be in the contract but isn’t.

I wrote an email yesterday declining the position and received an incoherent response that the company didn’t need to indemnify me and they are transitioning to a different model etc. And I just thought it sounded like a bad boyfriend upset because I won’t do what he says without question.

It is sad, and disappointing, but I don’t think I had a choice.

MyrtleLion · 04/07/2026 11:51

DauntlessDamson · 04/07/2026 11:46

Enjoy your peaceful weekend Marie, it sounds like you needed a lie-in.

I rather liked the white tail suits in the wedding picture. I'd rather wear one of those than a meringue of a dress.

I was thinking with so many Bluestockingers preferring trousers, and some who hate getting dressed up, that the gerbils should wear what they want. So I asked for lots of ribbons and tulle for some of them, and some very smart suits for others. And I didn’t want anyone getting married, because the point was celebrating TayTay getting married. Pictures from New York showed lots of women dressing up as brides and I’m glad our lovely staff could do that too.

DauntlessDamson · 04/07/2026 12:04

MyrtleLion · 04/07/2026 11:48

I was offered a small non-executive director role for no money and I was very excited.

And then I put on my due diligence hat and checked the accounts going back 15 years, and the contract, and what was filed at Companies House and what was on their terrible website.

Aside from being in deficit for the whole period apart from the first year of incorporation, which was a huge red flag, the biggest issue was there was no clause in the contract indemnifying me by the company. Instead I am expected to get my own public indemnity insurance.

That in itself is fine, if I’m giving advice and a company relies on it, and it’s bad advice, I’m insured in case they sue me.

But as a non-executive director, I am liable if the company becomes insolvent and any creditors can come after me and/or the company. So it is expected that the company takes out insurance to indemnify me against losses. And that should be in the contract but isn’t.

I wrote an email yesterday declining the position and received an incoherent response that the company didn’t need to indemnify me and they are transitioning to a different model etc. And I just thought it sounded like a bad boyfriend upset because I won’t do what he says without question.

It is sad, and disappointing, but I don’t think I had a choice.

I think you were absolutely right not to touch that company with a bargepole, Myrtle. If they had been prepared to indemnify you against the consequences of their own incompetence, it might have been possible for you to help them dig themselves out of the hole they are in but it looks like they would not be prepared to take good advice and will just continue to dig.

I used to be on the management committee for a community shop and when the local Post Office closed we considered taking on the role. However, an in-depth look at the contract showed that all the financial advantage was with the PO and all the liability would be with the shop committee and in the end we decided against it. This was just before the Post Office scandal broke and I always felt we had dodged a bullet there.

MyrtleLion · 04/07/2026 12:11

DauntlessDamson · 04/07/2026 12:04

I think you were absolutely right not to touch that company with a bargepole, Myrtle. If they had been prepared to indemnify you against the consequences of their own incompetence, it might have been possible for you to help them dig themselves out of the hole they are in but it looks like they would not be prepared to take good advice and will just continue to dig.

I used to be on the management committee for a community shop and when the local Post Office closed we considered taking on the role. However, an in-depth look at the contract showed that all the financial advantage was with the PO and all the liability would be with the shop committee and in the end we decided against it. This was just before the Post Office scandal broke and I always felt we had dodged a bullet there.

Thank you. I do feel bad about not taking the role, but he said he wanted my CV and references for his due diligence, which was perfectly fine, so I did mine. If he had come back to me and said this is an oversight on the insurance and we want you to help turn it around, I would have understood. I would still say no. I also didn’t want my referees to look at it and wonder why I was working with such a company.

The revenue model can’t work because it’s heavily based on customer recruitment, which will end up being an MLM/Ponzi scheme as well, so it’s a definite no.

Magpiecomplex · 04/07/2026 12:16

MyrtleLion · 04/07/2026 11:51

I was thinking with so many Bluestockingers preferring trousers, and some who hate getting dressed up, that the gerbils should wear what they want. So I asked for lots of ribbons and tulle for some of them, and some very smart suits for others. And I didn’t want anyone getting married, because the point was celebrating TayTay getting married. Pictures from New York showed lots of women dressing up as brides and I’m glad our lovely staff could do that too.

Edited

I didn't spot any, but I'm sure some of the gerbils were wearing crocs.

Magpiecomplex · 04/07/2026 12:20

I've just been hanging washing out and could hear buzzards unusually close. Turned round and they were behind me, showing great interest in next door's chickens! They'd better not offload all over my clean whites load.
They won't be able to get at the chickens, there isn't enough clearance for them.

Chersfrozenface · 04/07/2026 12:22

Afternoon, all.

I just saw a bird pecking at the fat ball shards scattered on the patio (allowed by the RSPB) and couldn't tell whether it was a male blackbird or a starling with its mating beak on. I think my eyesight is going and I'm not surprised.

Right, back to the blasted buttonholes. Flipping hate those things.

Bergamotte · 04/07/2026 12:27

Chersfrozenface · 04/07/2026 12:22

Afternoon, all.

I just saw a bird pecking at the fat ball shards scattered on the patio (allowed by the RSPB) and couldn't tell whether it was a male blackbird or a starling with its mating beak on. I think my eyesight is going and I'm not surprised.

Right, back to the blasted buttonholes. Flipping hate those things.

Oh, I didn't realise that starlings' beaks changed colour in mating season. This morning I saw a male blackbird with a particularly bright beak, looking very handsome.

Sending hope that your fingers channel Laura Ingalls Wilder (who hated sewing buttonholes so much that she became very quick and efficient at them).