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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is being trans a 'disease'/mental health issue?

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SolveMyPrombles · 26/06/2026 20:05

I'm asking on this board for deliberate considered responses so please do share your thoughts.

A lady on a local group has described being trans as a mental illness that should be treated with compassion not pandered to because it's a disease.

Looking into it more deeply I believe she's wrong and there is no current diagnostic manual that agrees with her take.

What do you think?

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borntobequiet · 28/06/2026 13:59

Baileyonice · 28/06/2026 11:08

Gender ideolgues never really understood feminism; they just took some of its theses for granted. Feminism was never really just one theory anyway.

You can't have it both ways. Either males & females overlap or they don't AND that was/is the main takeaway that could only legitimise equality.

GC's conveniently don't understand how principles need to be consistent to be regarded as principles.

You can't have it both ways. Either males & females overlap or they don't AND that was/is the main takeaway that could only legitimise equality.

There’s so much wrong with this on every level that it’s impossible to address.

Many years ago I asked a Maths class, what was the probability of their being seriously injured on their way home from school. 50/50, they replied - either they would or they wouldn’t. After a little while they discovered that in fact, it wasn’t that simple.

And that’s only the start of the faulty reasoning and misinterpretation of language in this post.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 28/06/2026 14:24

murasaki · 28/06/2026 12:38

I agree re the TRAs infighting. It's all a bit Judean popular front, people's front of Judea etc.

Splitters.

(Why have I only just realized this??)

Of course - the only way the activists were able to stay on the same page in the past was because the page said one thing, and one thing only: No Debate. They didn't have to think or articulate anything past that, because there was nothing past that.

Now they're all having to learn to think and argue for themselves, all the different renditions are being sung! That's why we're now hearing all the conflicting arguments...

I guess everyone else has already come to this conclusion, and I'm being extraordinarily dim...?

(talk about not seeing the wood for the trees)

Error404FucksNotFound · 28/06/2026 14:26

borntobequiet · 28/06/2026 13:59

You can't have it both ways. Either males & females overlap or they don't AND that was/is the main takeaway that could only legitimise equality.

There’s so much wrong with this on every level that it’s impossible to address.

Many years ago I asked a Maths class, what was the probability of their being seriously injured on their way home from school. 50/50, they replied - either they would or they wouldn’t. After a little while they discovered that in fact, it wasn’t that simple.

And that’s only the start of the faulty reasoning and misinterpretation of language in this post.

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Is that the probability formula thing?

borntobequiet · 28/06/2026 14:33

Error404FucksNotFound · 28/06/2026 14:26

Is that the probability formula thing?

It wasn’t a good example really because the faulty reasoning in the post was almost impossible to characterise, but it seemed to involve the same sort of simplistic logic that, if correct, would have seen half the class in plaster casts or slings the next day.

Imdunfer · 28/06/2026 14:38

Baileyonice · 28/06/2026 10:48

What makes you qualified enough to dismiss other posters as unqualified?

Because I'm quoting scientific studies as opposed to unsupported 'feelz'.

I'll tell you what scientific study I want to see BoI. The one that does an analysis of whether trans people are happier after transition and if not explores exactly why suicide rates and mental health problems remain sky high compared to the population as a whole.

But those studies can't be done because funding is withdrawn every time the trans activists realise what is being proposed.

So the trans movement can conveniently go on ignoring de-transitioners and continue claiming that the reason that trans people are still unhappy after transition is because of how badly society treats them, not because they've found out that transition itself has not solved their mental health problems.

Seethlaw · 28/06/2026 14:56

Imdunfer · 28/06/2026 14:38

I'll tell you what scientific study I want to see BoI. The one that does an analysis of whether trans people are happier after transition and if not explores exactly why suicide rates and mental health problems remain sky high compared to the population as a whole.

But those studies can't be done because funding is withdrawn every time the trans activists realise what is being proposed.

So the trans movement can conveniently go on ignoring de-transitioners and continue claiming that the reason that trans people are still unhappy after transition is because of how badly society treats them, not because they've found out that transition itself has not solved their mental health problems.

I'll tell you what scientific study I want to see BoI. The one that does an analysis of whether trans people are happier after transition and if not explores exactly why suicide rates and mental health problems remain sky high compared to the population as a whole.

Yes, please!

So the trans movement can conveniently go on ignoring de-transitioners and continue claiming that the reason that trans people are still unhappy after transition is because of how badly society treats them, not because they've found out that transition itself has not solved their mental health problems.

When I transitioned 15 years ago, it was already well-known - though talked about only in whispers - that the most positive times during a transition (such as when going through a major gender-affirming surgery, or obtaining legal recognition of one's gender through opposite-sex papers) were possibly the most dangerous times as well, precisely because that's when a deluded person is forced to face the fact that transitioning doesn't bring about the miraculous solution to their problems that they had thought it would all along.

So yeah, it's criminal that those studies are not conducted, when the community already knows about all this.

Helleofabore · 28/06/2026 15:06

Baileyonice · 28/06/2026 11:03

Not as desperate as someone attempting to pretend men & women are exactly the same!

Her statement is self explanatory. She doesn't think Jenner's experience 'qualifies' him as a woman implying there's a female common experience.

At this point you are wilfully misunderstanding the obvious hypocrisy here.

Who is trying to convince people that “men & women are exactly the same!

If you are accusing people of wilful misunderstanding and hypocrisy that really is projection from you.

Or … is it that you don’t understand what Greer said and you don’t understand the feminist campaign for equality of opportunity through equitable solutions?

is that it? You thought that women and girls asking to be treated as equals was a blunt and false statement that female people were ‘equal’ meaning there were no differences?

Her statement IS self explanatory about the family dynamics that allowed Jenner to be a successful man in his career. She doesn’t think Jenner is female because he isn’t, and he has benefited in being able to concentrate on his success because he had a wife who took on the role of primary carer. The statistics show that this is a decision that is common in families and often driven by the inequality in pay rates between male and female employees.

Now, not every female person makes those decisions, I have a number of friends where it was the other way around. But it is ridiculous to deny that it is a common decision.

Greer also did not say that if Jenner did take the role of primary carer that Jenner would be a female either. Because that would be another absurd assertion to make.

I think at this stage you are stuck trying to make your personal theories sound plausible. You are heavily invested in trying to find some aspect to leverage some male people into the female sex class.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 28/06/2026 15:07

Like many, I have found myself pondering @SolveMyPrombles OP. Partly due to the heat. But actually I have been grappling with it for nearly 10 years in fact, as I tried to support my DC. Some posters and lurkers here will recognise me despite a recent name change.

Because I have only ever seen the distress, the angst, the anger my child feels. Mainly at how women are perceived, at how she felt starting her menses - during the Weinstein trial and Trump’s grab ‘em by the pussy’ tapes and the height of the MeToo movement that confirmed that women are vulnerable and men have all the power. I understood that periods are shit if you start them relatively early, that the hormones and emotional turbulence they bring are difficult to navigate, especially if you have an as yet undiagnosed ND condition - or more than one. But she didn’t.

For much of this time I thought it was an extreme reaction to societal pressures and that she would find her way, come to terms with it. But the self-harming, the suicidal ideation, the actual (admittedly feeble) attempts at suicide spoke of something deeper. I then spent years thinking it was my and DH’s fault. Was he too masc? He has a corporate job, is often away with work, is sporty and happiest with the trad-male household jobs that his dad and grandfather taught him (plumbing, gardening, wiring). I wondered whether she was starved of his attention when home because he sort of relates to our son a little more easily. I wondered whether I had contributed to a toxic home environment that affirmed genders - I am SAHP because we have no local family to support and returning to my corporate pre baby job would mean nannies, staff and I hadn’t wanted that for my kids. Did she look at me and see an ultra femme and weak parent? Was I to blame for telegraphing and affirming toxic gendered stereotypes? I asked myself this over and over.

Except that I know this was not the case. My DH has lavished time and affection on both kids, encouraged both in STEM and the arts, dedicated his weekends to supporting both. Both were offered the access to the same sports and arts activities. There was no pink or blue to be seen amongst their toys. We let them steer and gently pushed back against sexist, racist and homophobic comments by their friends. DH cooks and does housework. I have worn a dress a dozen times in as many years and as I am as likely to be knee deep in polyfilla, emulsion and white spirit as I am carving my way through a month’s ironing with a bottle of vino and a gruesome crime boxed set. A few weeks ago I had my first ever manicure (BIAB which I have just seriously tested today hand sanding down the wooden kitchen counters and applying Danish oil. Not sure that was the oil I was supposed to drench my cuticles with, but hey, I’ve skinned my knuckles anyway).

When I explained to DD that I did not know what she meant by a gendered soul, many years ago now, because I don’t have a ‘gendered identity’ she said that was ‘very terfy of you mum’. But the thing is, I don’t - I was adopted into an apparently liberal Iranian muslim family where there were nonethless very clear expectations for women and girls. Women gave up their seats for male relatives of any age, even if there were 4 sofas and only one female person seated. Women ate after men had been served. Once I hit puberty my dad had very clear and strict ideas on how I could dress and the fact that it was MY responsibility to ensure I did not excite the sexual attention of men. Not theirs. It did mess me up and I, like my mother, had an ED by the time I was at uni, but I was fully recovered by the time I had kids. But did I telegraph my ingrained body shyness or residual issues with food? I’d be naive if I thought DD didn’t pick something up over the years.

I am probably very femme to people looking at me and my life - I sew, craft, play woodwind instruments, am an [feminist] English/creative writing post-grad. I’ve just hand knitted blankets for each of my kids for university, FGS. I desperately wanted kids - but to heal after a dysfunctional childhood, not because I am a ‘woman’. Do I ‘feel’ feminine? No. I just AM a woman. I no more understand what ‘being a woman’ is for other women, than I understand being British, or ND, or white. I only understand what my experience of those things are through the lens that is ‘me’.

So where does that leave us as a family? How can my DD have had such a visceral response to her changing female body? And it was the changing bit that was the issue. She had no issues with being a girl before her periods started and her breast began to bud. I truly do not think she ‘wants to be a man’. She just doesn't want to mature into a woman with a body that feels alien, with a mind/maturity that hasn’t caught up yet, in a world that she is struggling to understand, where the narrative around women is hostile, where toxic masculinity is recognisably an issue within certain demographics. I mean - it’s all a bit shit, isn’t it?

As far as I can see, my DD has never had any trauma other than puberty itself. A puberty she was not quite ready for, that being ND made harder for her to navigate, a puberty that is continually being pathologised by society and which the current social, political and clinical narrative is one where, rather than offer support for young people who are struggling - whether through autism, family trauma, confusion over sexual preference etc - we offer to medicalise it. I think she started as a distressed and confused little girl and society’s response to her distress has damaged her.

So no I don’t think she - or any other ‘trans’ person - has a disease. I think she has a maladaptive and negative reaction to adolescenceand her sexed body that gender ideology has weaponised and used to deeply and utterly harm her. I think she is ‘ill’ but I am constantly hopeful that given time and space - and no conversion therapy legislation or tacit cultural condoning of medicalising adolescence that the PB trial communicates - she and others like her COULD get better. Mental illness doesn’t have to be permanent. It doesn’t have to define a person - but cosmetically altering their bodies or giving them cross-sex hormones which we know do more harm than good, when they are too young to make other life altering decisions alone or unguided by parents - well, this risks trapping them in a mental ill-health cycle for life. I, personally, think that is unconscionable.

BettyBooper · 28/06/2026 15:13

@AnonyMumAuDHD Your post makes so much sense. I'm sorry for what your DD is going through. Thanks for posting. 🌻

Helleofabore · 28/06/2026 15:19

Baileyonice · 28/06/2026 10:48

What makes you qualified enough to dismiss other posters as unqualified?

Because I'm quoting scientific studies as opposed to unsupported 'feelz'.

Errrr

Was this supposed to a witty gotcha?

You are posting papers pointing out some researcher’s self-reporting questionnaire that even the researchers understand the limitations of, that does not do anything to eliminate aspirational bias or answering what the respondents want the researcher to see. Then you are the one trying to argue that those traits are somehow tools for categorising human sex classes all the while never once in months of repeating this same argument coming up with any workable way to define the boundaries of those categories.

What you have been doing is effectively saying ‘but, but… behaviours … traits…’ as if what you are pointing to is in any way relevant to categorising humans into stable, reliable and useful sex classes.

For the gazillionth time, of course there is overlap with personality and behavioural traits of male and female humans. None of those personality and behavioural traits define what sex class they are in.

Again for the gazillionth time, who the fuck arbitrates who is and isn’t at the ‘female’ enough because of their behaviour or personality?

You really are posting about ‘unsupported feelz’ desperately wanting what you say to be true.

anyolddinosaur · 28/06/2026 15:22

"trans" covers a lot of things doesnt it. You have men who think womens jails will be nicer who claim to have transitioned and find their gender dysphoria disappears when they get out. That strikes me as fairly rational so not a mental illness. Then you have those who convince themselves they have become a biological woman or that they will disappear if anyone says they dont believe they are a woman - they strike me as mentally ill. Then you have those with internalised homophobia or homophobic families, girls who want to identify out of modern gender expectations, autistic children who think they've found a group that gets them, abuse survivors who have learnt to hate their bodies and probably a few more I've temporarily forgotten. The one thing they all (apart from the deliberate fakes) have in common is a delusion.

If someone told me they were Christ, or God, Napoleon, or a reincarnation of Cleopatra or massively overweight when they are anorexic most people would agree they were mentally ill - one divorce from reality is not any different to the others. People with Alzheimer's frequently live in an older version of reality and forget their friends and family.

You can have compassion for the problems that have led them to where they are without agreeing with delusions.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 28/06/2026 17:09

anyolddinosaur · 28/06/2026 15:22

"trans" covers a lot of things doesnt it. You have men who think womens jails will be nicer who claim to have transitioned and find their gender dysphoria disappears when they get out. That strikes me as fairly rational so not a mental illness. Then you have those who convince themselves they have become a biological woman or that they will disappear if anyone says they dont believe they are a woman - they strike me as mentally ill. Then you have those with internalised homophobia or homophobic families, girls who want to identify out of modern gender expectations, autistic children who think they've found a group that gets them, abuse survivors who have learnt to hate their bodies and probably a few more I've temporarily forgotten. The one thing they all (apart from the deliberate fakes) have in common is a delusion.

If someone told me they were Christ, or God, Napoleon, or a reincarnation of Cleopatra or massively overweight when they are anorexic most people would agree they were mentally ill - one divorce from reality is not any different to the others. People with Alzheimer's frequently live in an older version of reality and forget their friends and family.

You can have compassion for the problems that have led them to where they are without agreeing with delusions.

Indeed. We do not respond to an anorexic by prescribing mounjaro and making a referral for a gastric band, do we?

Datun · 28/06/2026 17:14

Helleofabore · 28/06/2026 15:06

Who is trying to convince people that “men & women are exactly the same!

If you are accusing people of wilful misunderstanding and hypocrisy that really is projection from you.

Or … is it that you don’t understand what Greer said and you don’t understand the feminist campaign for equality of opportunity through equitable solutions?

is that it? You thought that women and girls asking to be treated as equals was a blunt and false statement that female people were ‘equal’ meaning there were no differences?

Her statement IS self explanatory about the family dynamics that allowed Jenner to be a successful man in his career. She doesn’t think Jenner is female because he isn’t, and he has benefited in being able to concentrate on his success because he had a wife who took on the role of primary carer. The statistics show that this is a decision that is common in families and often driven by the inequality in pay rates between male and female employees.

Now, not every female person makes those decisions, I have a number of friends where it was the other way around. But it is ridiculous to deny that it is a common decision.

Greer also did not say that if Jenner did take the role of primary carer that Jenner would be a female either. Because that would be another absurd assertion to make.

I think at this stage you are stuck trying to make your personal theories sound plausible. You are heavily invested in trying to find some aspect to leverage some male people into the female sex class.

You are heavily invested in trying to find some aspect to leverage some male people into the female sex class.

What's hilarious is how many of these men believe it's big boobs.

And that it gives them power

They're positively delirious with the fantasy that they can buy big boobs, lord it over women because of them, and still have all the power.

I don't know how many times I've said it, I have no fucking idea why men rule the world. Because it sure as hell ain't brains.

It's 100% brawn.

Helleofabore · 28/06/2026 17:19

Datun · 28/06/2026 17:14

You are heavily invested in trying to find some aspect to leverage some male people into the female sex class.

What's hilarious is how many of these men believe it's big boobs.

And that it gives them power

They're positively delirious with the fantasy that they can buy big boobs, lord it over women because of them, and still have all the power.

I don't know how many times I've said it, I have no fucking idea why men rule the world. Because it sure as hell ain't brains.

It's 100% brawn.

Didn't Hayton keep telling us about the power hierarchy of women being based on their breast size?

murasaki · 28/06/2026 17:22

And of course good old hypnotits Polanski. Seeing small tits as a thing to be cured, even though he himself isn't interested in them sexually.

noblegiraffe · 28/06/2026 17:35

Helleofabore · 28/06/2026 17:19

Didn't Hayton keep telling us about the power hierarchy of women being based on their breast size?

It's certainly a male thing to rank women on.

Datun · 28/06/2026 18:14

Helleofabore · 28/06/2026 17:19

Didn't Hayton keep telling us about the power hierarchy of women being based on their breast size?

Totally. The man who prided himself on being the acceptable face of AGP. Which is already a contradiction in terms almost before you finish the sentence.

He had written in a book, studied everything, was the expert, and STILL had the porn addled idea that women with big boobs were automatically accorded a higher status amongst their peers.

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking dire.

Datun · 28/06/2026 18:15

noblegiraffe · 28/06/2026 17:35

It's certainly a male thing to rank women on.

Which I can understand. What I don't get, is how these men can reach middle age and not realise it's a totally male fantasy.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 28/06/2026 18:25

borntobequiet · 28/06/2026 13:59

You can't have it both ways. Either males & females overlap or they don't AND that was/is the main takeaway that could only legitimise equality.

There’s so much wrong with this on every level that it’s impossible to address.

Many years ago I asked a Maths class, what was the probability of their being seriously injured on their way home from school. 50/50, they replied - either they would or they wouldn’t. After a little while they discovered that in fact, it wasn’t that simple.

And that’s only the start of the faulty reasoning and misinterpretation of language in this post.

Edited

Yes, the constant redefining and reframing to try and maintain a position while their ‘logic’ rapidly crumbles around them has been interesting on this thread.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 28/06/2026 18:41

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 28/06/2026 18:25

Yes, the constant redefining and reframing to try and maintain a position while their ‘logic’ rapidly crumbles around them has been interesting on this thread.

"Dancing on the head of a pin" - I think?

MarieDeGournay · 28/06/2026 18:56

I'm sorry you and your DD are going through this difficulty, AnonyMumAuDHD.

How can my DD have had such a visceral response to her changing female body?
I don't know, but I had the same. I was so freaked out by the idea of puberty and menstruation and unavoidable adult womanhood that I planned to kill myself. There were shotguns on neighbouring farms, and I knew where they were.
As in the case of your DD, there was no obvious reason why I would rather kill myself than be a woman - my siblings had no such response to their changing bodies.

I too was 'a distressed and confused little girl', but unlike your DD I had the good fortune to grow up before the current trans juggernaut had rolled into town, so nobody suggested I could 'transition', no-one suggested I subject my body to a lifetime of hormones, nobody suggested I could have my healthy breasts ['yuk!', as I thought at the time] removed and then parade my scars, nobody suggested 'bottom surgery'...

There wasn't even a glimmer of a hint of a suggestion that I could be anything other than an adult human female.

That absence was my salvation. I had to live with the truth of what I was, and I did. My loving family never fully understood me, but they supported me in defying 'girly' gender stereotypes, which were less pronounced back then anyway.

So I agree with you that
the current social, political and clinical narrative is one where, rather than offer support for young people who are struggling - whether through autism, family trauma, confusion over sexual preference etc - we offer to medicalise it.

It is not just medicalised, it is also politicised as an important target of that transgender 'juggernaut' I referred to earlier.
Analysis of the Dentons Document: A How to Manual - Women Speak Tasmania

But girls - who are more likely than boys to be treated for gender confusion - are subjected to a whole range of influences:
possible causations such as internalised homophobia, exposure to social media, trauma, bullying, difficulties in navigating bodily changes at puberty, experiencing sexual objectification, familial and social situations and social contagion had played a part in this trend
EHIA: Children and Young People’s Gender Service: Service Specification for the National Referral Support Service

I wish you and your DD well, it is a hard road ahead, but I hope she finds her way back to being at one with her body, with love, support and above all the truth that it is not possible for her to change sex, but it is possible to be her own kind of adult women, not just the stereotypical kindFlowers

PollyNomial · 28/06/2026 19:07

MarieDeGournay · 28/06/2026 10:16

What makes you qualified enough to dismiss other posters as unqualified?

I advise caution, as there are contributors to this board who hold 'expert' qualifications in relevant subject.

And there are lots of contributors who have been carrying out their own research for years now, drawing on a range of reliable, verifiable sources to form considered opinions. That you don't agree with, fair enough, but that is not in itself an 'expert' critique of the validity of a GC opinion.

So your 'yet another unqualified GC' may not be who you think she is.
She's possibly at least as qualified as you are, and possibly more so.

Doing your own research (aka searching the internet) does not make anyone an expert as many didn't live to realise during Covid. Pretty much all research in every field of study is collaborative these days and has been for at least a couple of decades. If no-one will work someone (or even someone will work with no-one else), that should ring alarm bells very loudly.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/06/2026 19:28

Zoonosis · 26/06/2026 20:52

If anyone cares about actual science, the increasing evidence is that feelings of gender incongruence are related to the part of our brains that deal with self-perception and self-image, which can be influenced by genetic factors or hormones in utero to be misaligned with the way our bodies develop. People who feel this incongruence to such a degree that they are made happier by taking steps to help their bodies align with their internal self-image are what we call trans people. It is not a mental illness because the brain is functioning perfectly normally, it's just part of its software is programmed for different hardware, if that makes sense.

Just to emphasise before someone jumps on me this is NOT as popularly suggested anything to do with having a "male" brain in a female body or vice versa as there's no such thing as male or female brains, but there are extensive networks in your brain that deal with bodily perception, and we know from neuroimaging that these parts of the brain differ in transgender individuals.

It's worth stressing that absolutely no reputable medical organisation considers being trans to be a mental health disorder anymore, and nor is gender dysphoria considered to be a type of body dysmorphia as pps have claimed. Nor have any efforts to "cure" trans people apart from allowing them to transition ever been successful or caused anything other than harm and distress.

Edited

And so what?

All you are arguing for is that the feeling of being the opposite sex may be genuine. That's not the same thing as being the opposite sex.

If due to a biochemical or bio-electrical glitch I was born with the genuine sense that I have three arms, it would be real to me in my mind but I would still in reality only have two arms.

What make "trans" different isn't the quality or cause of the delusion, it is just that it has given rise to a sexist belief that if a person inhabits enough of the stereotypes of the opposite sex then they might as well actually be the opposite sex.

ScrollingLeaves · 28/06/2026 19:41

Octavia64 · 26/06/2026 20:10

Hmm.

i was in an accident which resulted in some problems with my foot. This caused my brain to decide my foot wasn’t part of me.

it was a distinctly odd feeling but generally this sort of thing is not considered a mental health issue as such.

see also phantom limb syndrome where even after a limb has been cut off/amputated/lost in an accident the brain still thinks it is there and will generate sensations from it.

in the same way if someone genuinely believes they really are one sex when their body is actually the other I’d be reluctant to classify it as a mental health issue.

What about the syndrome where someone begs a surgeon to cut off a healthy limb?
This is called “Body Integrity Identity Disorder.”
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/body-integrity-identity-disorder-biid

What is body integrity identity disorder (BIID)?
Body integrity identity disorder (BIID), or body integrity dysphoria, is a mental health condition where you feel that a limb or healthy body part shouldn’t be part of your body. You’re aware that this body part is healthy; you can still feel, use and move this body part, but you don’t believe it should be yours. You want to live life without the use of that limb.

What about Anorexia Nervosa?
What Is Anorexia?
Anorexia nervosa is an eating disorder and mental health condition that makes you limit how much you eat. People with anorexia restrict food to keep their body weight as low as possible. They’re afraid to gain weight and may obsess over being thin. Anorexia can affect people of all body sizes and body types.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9794-anorexia-nervosa

These mental conditions surely have forms of body dysphoria in common with the body dysphoria of transgender people.

Also why are more children in care thinking they are transgender than is the case in the normal population if not for the mental effects of all they have been through?

Or children who were victims of sexual abuse and suffering mentally and escape the body that attracted the abuse by changing for another one?

Or children mentally struggling because they are gay but that would be unacceptable for them/their family?

Autistic children trying to find easing of their outsider feelings seems, in my opinion, to be a mental problem.

As for autogynophiles their transgenderism must be a psycho-sexual effect of some kind.

BIID (Body Integrity Identity Disorder)

BIID is a mental health condition where you don’t feel a healthy limb is part of your body. Learn more about what causes it and treatment options.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/body-integrity-identity-disorder-biid

Heggettypeg · 28/06/2026 19:44

noblegiraffe · 28/06/2026 17:35

It's certainly a male thing to rank women on.

It's male chauvinist piggery 101.
Woman = a fuck, not a person. Her only value is whether and how much men fancy her.
Men like big boobs. Ergo, women with big boobs have high value and status. They're a sort of female NCO - so long as they jump when the men say jump, they are entitled to lord it over the lower (female) ranks.
For most MCPs it's simple. Men get to call the shots. They're a man.
But some have a fantasy of being the female NCO. It complicates the situation for them, but it doesn't challenge the hierarchy, it depends on the hierarchy. There's nothing progressive about it.

That's the situation as they see it or as they wish it to be. Which is why they're all over any apparent evidence of women having bought into this value system ( getting boob jobs etc) and dismiss and belittle anything (real woman-centred feminism; lesbians) that represents a different system of values where women are people in their own right.

The one thing they hate more than hearing about those things is evidence that they are working. That women have space and independence - and the independence of mind - to live as they wish, rather than as sex objects on appro, wannabe sex objects or failed sex objects. As partners in loving and equal relationships, straight or gay, or alone, happy and self-supporting.

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