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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 07:23

fromorbit · Yesterday 07:18

There is always the possibility that NW might flip. Lots of gender crits were formerly very pro trans rights you just need to listen to the TAs enough that you understand how much they hate women.

Nah, I'd rather she was eaten. 😂😂😂😂

fromorbit · Yesterday 08:29

Reception at 10 Downing Street reports TAs lobbying hard for the bill. They have immense influence fighting backing back will be tough

NB I think Esses misunderstands Starmer's polite noncommittal comment and other points of Labour politics here. Esses doesn't point out that TAs are massive liars and will tend to exaggerate their position and influence - it ids real but there are limits. Starmer doesn't care about trans stuff or women's rights much. He will take path of least resistance. The Trans lobby does have power in Labour, but it is NOT in control. It can be resisted. The big issue is that women and gay voices are marginalised in Labour and have to make a big noise before being heard. The situation is way better now than it was 6 years ago because of the fightback and more ground can be gained. The Tories have sidelined trans stuff in their party it was huge only a few years ago. It can be done.

https://nitter.net/JamesEsses/status/2071997476815405542

fromorbit · Yesterday 09:06

Julie Bindel
The 'conversion therapy' bill is an abomination
https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/the-conversion-therapy-bill-is-an?

The ‘conversion therapy’ ban is a Trojan horse for trans extremism
Parents, therapists and any concerned adult could be jailed for challenging a child’s gender identity.
Stella O’Malley is the director and founder of Genspect.

This bill creates an extraordinary moral inconsistency reminiscent of the Soviet Union, where it didn’t matter whether you were correct, only whether you were politically correct. Last week in the House of Lords, Hilary Cass described parents who socially transitioned their two-year-old son, affirming him as a girl and setting him on a pathway that has left him, aged 11, with ‘weak bones’ as a result of being largely confined to his bedroom. According to the logic of this bill, those parents should be applauded. Yet parents who question a child’s transgender identity, encourage psychological exploration, or simply ask their son or daughter to wait before embarking on irreversible medical treatment may find themselves jailed for being politically incorrect.

The evidence for this extraordinary expansion of state power is remarkably weak. Ministers repeatedly cite a report from Galop, an anti-abuse charity, as justification for banning what it calls conversion practices. Yet after reviewing around 13,500 client records over three years, researchers found just 371 potential cases, only 195 of which contained enough information to analyse. The report’s most serious examples involve assault, rape, forced marriage, deprivation of liberty and coercive control – all already criminal offences that should be prosecuted vigorously. On such flimsy evidence, the government proposes to redraw the boundaries between the state and the family.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/06/30/the-conversion-therapy-ban-is-a-trojan-horse-for-trans-extremism/

The 'conversion therapy' bill is an abomination

I would put Olivia Bailey in prison, before the parents who refuse to affirm trans identified children.

https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/the-conversion-therapy-bill-is-an

moto748e · Yesterday 10:45

First comment under the JB piece makes a not surprising but important point: why are the oversight organisations, trade bodies, whatever term you want to use, why are they always captured?

Wishesandhorses · Today 08:37

Well the MPs won't.

Just one example we're all familiar with - many don't actually know the difference between the law and guidance, and look confused when you point out that they're attacking women and gay rights while claiming to be lovely, and are madly fixed on forcing women to undress in front of any dodgy man who wander in with his right to be there and force himself on her way above any human right of hers, but deny this because it's about WORDS. Usually words stripped of any rationality, 'respect' is one thrown around a lot.

These are people you wouldn't send out to run a stall at the village fete.

Too many are activist MPs with big feelings, big opinions, very little knowledge about what they're busy shouting about, and are emotion/gesture driven. Seeing the pitfalls and consequences of a stupid, badly drafted activist driven bill is unlikely. Thank God for the HoL so there's at least some check on them.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 08:38

fromorbit · Today 08:24

House of Lords have had their first debate on the Conversion Therapy Bill.

Sounds like it is going to see a lot of scrutiny there is a lot of focus on the threat to parents. Baroness Cash points out the shoddy research the law is based on. Even the Lib Dem spokesman is concerned about the ill defined nature of the bill.

The Ministers don't have much of a rational response.

Read in Hansard
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/2026-07-01/debates/C5C2A2F3-FB5B-4580-A214-4765AE3B4359/DraftConversionPracticesBill?__cf_chl_f_tk=gXN3TageO3io1BvM9sZWpAk7zvX2_s2ZqIVUxHX1j3I-1782976310-1.0.1.1-4f2MCVpj81Tj3iXZ7cU2Xhb7oYumsHYpi2G5Qmz2T8E

Watch
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002ylyw/house-of-lords-conversion-practices-bill-statement?seriesId=unsliced&page=1

Thanks for the link, eyeball melting drivel 🤢

"Across the globe, countries are acting to ban conversion practices. We have learned from the 28 countries that have some sort of ban in place."

This isn't about what this country needs, it's about them cementing their place in the Global Left. I bet the 28 countries are all in Europe, plus Aus, NZ and Tranada.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 08:51

fromorbit · Today 08:24

House of Lords have had their first debate on the Conversion Therapy Bill.

Sounds like it is going to see a lot of scrutiny there is a lot of focus on the threat to parents. Baroness Cash points out the shoddy research the law is based on. Even the Lib Dem spokesman is concerned about the ill defined nature of the bill.

The Ministers don't have much of a rational response.

Read in Hansard
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/2026-07-01/debates/C5C2A2F3-FB5B-4580-A214-4765AE3B4359/DraftConversionPracticesBill?__cf_chl_f_tk=gXN3TageO3io1BvM9sZWpAk7zvX2_s2ZqIVUxHX1j3I-1782976310-1.0.1.1-4f2MCVpj81Tj3iXZ7cU2Xhb7oYumsHYpi2G5Qmz2T8E

Watch
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002ylyw/house-of-lords-conversion-practices-bill-statement?seriesId=unsliced&page=1

That was a great response from Baroness Cash. And just a lot of waffle and “it’ll be sorted out” in response.

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