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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rupert Lowe’s rape gang enquiry, report published

773 replies

Yddraigoldragon · 16/06/2026 20:50

The report has been published, link below.

http://bit.ly/4uE5odw

It is harrowing.

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EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 19:30

SionnachRuadh · 17/06/2026 19:21

Well, I just wish you'd all decide whether I'm far right or far left.

I've been banging on for years, with little effect, about the abuse of women in left wing politics, and I often attract passive-aggressive sniping on FWR from posters who accuse me of being a Tommy Robinson supporter when I mention the labour movement funding the rape enablers in the Socialist Workers Party. Nobody openly defends the SWP, they just think it's low class and politically suspect to mention their rape coverups.

Now I find myself in the firing line for pointing out that Rupert Lowe has quite a few extremely dodgy individuals in his party, and that - much as I respect Sammy Woodhouse's advocacy for victims - maybe it wasn't a genius idea for her to agree to be a featured speaker at a conference full of literal fascists, and ask if this is likely to alienate people who might otherwise support her cause. No! - this is being nasty to Uncle Rupert, who is the only man who cares.

I suppose the best I can do is call things like I see them and remember that political tribalism is a hell of a drug.

Not really. I haven’t been tribal for Restore. If anyone I prefer Kemi.

I still don’t want this report dismissed.

FernFaery · 17/06/2026 19:31

PollyNomial · 17/06/2026 18:53

Two examples off the top of my head: Republican party, the RCC

I'm sadly sure that everyone can add more.

Edited

That’s not in the UK.

SionnachRuadh · 17/06/2026 19:44

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 19:30

Not really. I haven’t been tribal for Restore. If anyone I prefer Kemi.

I still don’t want this report dismissed.

Yes.

If you have a problem with Sammy hanging out with Hitler fanboys then you're saying victims don't matter.

I heard you.

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 19:45

SionnachRuadh · 17/06/2026 19:44

Yes.

If you have a problem with Sammy hanging out with Hitler fanboys then you're saying victims don't matter.

I heard you.

Who are you quoting in bold?

SionnachRuadh · 17/06/2026 19:48

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 19:45

Who are you quoting in bold?

You specifically came after me for pointing out that Sammy had been a featured speaker at Sellner's conference. You made it very clear that this was no big deal and we shouldn't be discussing it.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 19:48

SionnachRuadh · 17/06/2026 19:21

Well, I just wish you'd all decide whether I'm far right or far left.

I've been banging on for years, with little effect, about the abuse of women in left wing politics, and I often attract passive-aggressive sniping on FWR from posters who accuse me of being a Tommy Robinson supporter when I mention the labour movement funding the rape enablers in the Socialist Workers Party. Nobody openly defends the SWP, they just think it's low class and politically suspect to mention their rape coverups.

Now I find myself in the firing line for pointing out that Rupert Lowe has quite a few extremely dodgy individuals in his party, and that - much as I respect Sammy Woodhouse's advocacy for victims - maybe it wasn't a genius idea for her to agree to be a featured speaker at a conference full of literal fascists, and ask if this is likely to alienate people who might otherwise support her cause. No! - this is being nasty to Uncle Rupert, who is the only man who cares.

I suppose the best I can do is call things like I see them and remember that political tribalism is a hell of a drug.

I don’t think he is the only man who cares, and neither do I think he doesn’t have an agenda. Any comments I’ve made have been to people who think only right wing people exploit political issues for their agendas, while the left are the only people who care and are pure as the driven snow. Which is clearly bollocks.

FernFaery · 17/06/2026 19:51

Also, as a Catholic, I will add the Catholic Church has absolutely not been protected and covered up by communities of ordinary Catholics. In fact, the victims were all Catholic children who often reported as adults. And absolutely nobody shied away from the ‘Catholic’ element because they feared being called a bigot. It’s interesting the left wing here have zero issues saying ‘Catholics’ but cannot bring themselves to say ‘Muslim’ without ‘oooh, that’s racist’.

Benckendorff · 17/06/2026 19:51

Hello,
I am a 62 your old man interested in women's views

Maray1967 · 17/06/2026 19:52

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 12:07

Fair enough. But what do you think about the victim testimonies within the report?

Or do you dismiss the whole report because you've <check notes> 'lost respect' for the person who wrote it?

No, of course not. But the commentary is not worth reading when the line being taken is ‘hang them.’ The death penalty was removed in this country for very good reasons. One of those that is often overlooked is that juries are probably less willing to convict if the penalty could be death.

There have been several miscarriages of justice exposed in recent years. Long prison sentences should be awarded in cases such as these.

SionnachRuadh · 17/06/2026 19:53

There is an actual Comrade Delta enjoyer on this thread, but I'll probably be suspended if I specifically mention them.

As far as Lowe is concerned, I'd suggest posters acquaint themselves with his propaganda chief Carl Benjamin. As champions of women go, he's got an interesting record.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 19:53

I can guess @SionnachRuadh

FernFaery · 17/06/2026 19:55

SionnachRuadh · 17/06/2026 19:53

There is an actual Comrade Delta enjoyer on this thread, but I'll probably be suspended if I specifically mention them.

As far as Lowe is concerned, I'd suggest posters acquaint themselves with his propaganda chief Carl Benjamin. As champions of women go, he's got an interesting record.

Can’t you comment on the content of the report rather than its writer? Surely if it’s all absolute nonsense you should easily be able to swiftly destroy it?

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 19:58

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 19:53

I can guess @SionnachRuadh

I don’t know what it means. Or who it’s meant to be on the thread.

Benckendorff · 17/06/2026 19:58

My wife was a social worker in Wakefield up to the year 2000. I knew that this sort of thing was going on then, although not that it involved gangs. My wife's clients had family members and friends who were involved with asian men in Dewsbury. The police described this as child prostitution and her managers were not interested in helping her. My wife told the fathers to follow their daughters around and make a nuisance of themselves until these men stopped seeing the girls. The girls were 12 -14 years old. The police were not bothered about appearing racist in the 1990s but obviously thought the girls were the guilty ones.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 20:00

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 19:58

I don’t know what it means. Or who it’s meant to be on the thread.

Comrade Delta - SWP rape cover up scandal

Appalonia · 17/06/2026 20:01

It's pretty ironic that the discussion on AIBU is more reasonable and VICTIM FOCUSSED than on a bloody FEMINIST board. My God, so many of you are still ( even after the left have shown us that they don't give a shit about women's rights, the way they've wholeheartedly supported trans ideology ) so blindly supporting ' The Left', that you cannot see what's in front of your noses.

I used to be very left wing, but there's nothing that they stand for that I can relate to right now. They certainly are not the party of the working class any more. They're authoritarian, anti women and personally I'd rather have Rupert Lowe, a man who actually DID something to highlight this atrocity against white, working class girls than Keir Starmer who just want to shut down all debate on the issues currently facing the UK.

The threat to the UK right now is NOT the mythical ' far right', and I fear we are sleepwalking into something much more sinister...

SionnachRuadh · 17/06/2026 20:06

FernFaery · 17/06/2026 19:55

Can’t you comment on the content of the report rather than its writer? Surely if it’s all absolute nonsense you should easily be able to swiftly destroy it?

Rupert Lowe didn't write the report. Its main author is a young man called Harrison Pitt, who is big mates with Austrian neo-nazi activist Martin Sellner.

I have commented upthread on the content of the report. You can scroll up if you like.

Jmaho · 17/06/2026 20:07

WeirdyBeardyMarrowBabyLady · 17/06/2026 09:57

I’m not reading anything that Lowe is associated with. The last thing his mob of supporters care about is women’s rights. It’s just a vehicle for racism.

Pathetic response

Whatado · 17/06/2026 20:07

Snugglemonkey · 17/06/2026 09:21

I stopped reading as it felt like blatant propaganda. It is a shame as I feel there will be many more like me.

Who lack critical thinking skills?

So you think the testimony of women and children was what made up?

Do you understand what political popaganda means?

The truth may make you feel uncomfortable,it doesn't make it any less true.

BendoftheBeginning · 17/06/2026 20:09

NoNever · 17/06/2026 01:46

It’s interesting that many of the initial comments are about how the report isn’t expressing itself properly, the wrong people are saying it, and how it’s going to be used to “create division” instead of what the report actually says.

All ways to dismiss the content without having to consider it at all.

Where have I heard that before?

From GC Feminists, and we were right.

It’s disgusting the way he’s using what happened to those women to boost his career and call for the death penalty. He’s making their trauma all about him, just as the TRAs force teamed gay rights and tried to force team feminism to let men I to women’s sports.

We won’t be fooled.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 20:11

It’s possible both to support the victim testimonies and the bravery of these women in telling their harrowing stories, and be cynical about the motivations of Rupert Lowe. I don’t like the idea that people think they can handwave it all away because of Lowe.

SionnachRuadh · 17/06/2026 20:13

SionnachRuadh · 17/06/2026 12:30

They crowdfunded the best part of a million quid for this thing, and I don't know where the money was spent.

Regardless, I know that Rupert Lowe's slogan is "I don't care", but if he'd been willing to listen to some basic comms advice, I could have given him a few tips to make his report more credible. Nothing too fancy, just common sense tips like:

  • Have some terms of reference, and maybe a research methodology.
  • Get some experts involved. I know lawyers are expensive, but you've got enough money in the pot for one. Think about getting in a criminologist or statistician. PhD researchers can be surprisingly good value for money.
  • Don't hand over the report to be written by Lotus Munchers podcasters and allow them to stuff it full of political rhetoric about capital punishment and the British Nationality Act 1948.
  • Try to have at least one woman with editorial oversight.
  • Get your report sense checked by an editor so it doesn't have absurdities like referring to girls being "trafficked across county lines", which just sounds like it was written by someone who's watched too many American TV dramas and doesn't know what county lines are in a UK context.
  • Don't launch your political party five hours after you've concluded the inquiry hearings.
  • Don't publish your report two days before a high-profile by-election.
  • Don't allow your report to credit Tommy Robinson as a whistleblower.
  • Maybe suggest to Sammy Woodhouse that it wasn't a great idea to travel to Portugal to be a star speaker at a conference full of open white nationalists, and organised by Martin Sellner, an Austrian neo-nazi permanently banned from the UK, who has also been photographed hobnobbing with Restore policy chief Harrison Pitt (the main author of the report).

Some very basic due diligence would have made this much less easy to dismiss.

cc @FernFaery

Feel free to disagree if you like.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 20:13

FWIW I do think Lowe cares about these women, at least as much if not more than many people on the left do. As I said. He has his agenda and the sweep it under the carpet types have their own.

Jmaho · 17/06/2026 20:13

I read the report. Very tough read. Not quite as tough as some of the comments on this thread though.
Blows my mind that women can think the way they do. Women who are in many circumstances raising daughters.
My take away is that anyone considered right wing is far far worse than anybody else. Even child rapists.
Every single person who reads this report should be shocked and angry and want there to be concequences and massive change.
If you read it and basically decide who gives a shit because it's linked to Restore, you're not even human as far as I'm concerned

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 20:15

I agree, but I guess some people on the left or centre who do support action fondly imagine that this useless government is going to do something.