Help end medical misogyny. Sign our petition.

Help end medical misogyny.
Sign our petition.

Sign the petition

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dundee girl with axe verdict- Ilia Belov found guilty of assault and injury

89 replies

snowbear22 · Yesterday 12:29

The Dundee girl who brandished an axe has been vindicated today as the court case has proved that she acted in self defence, her sister was attacked by the adults Ilia Belov and his sister.
Ilia Belov has today been convicted of assault and injury and making sexual remarks to a child.
The court heard previously that the 12-year-old girl Belov attacked admitted pulling a knife and axe from her waistband, but only after Belov had assaulted her.
The girl told the trial previously that her sister started to shout at Belov after the remarks, but the pair were pulled away by a friend.
She then told the court Belova approached the group, pushed her and threw her sister to the ground.

At the time the girl was believed to be the aggressor by many, particularly Freddy Sayers, editor of UnHeard, who called the reaction to the video 'propaganda slop' and Kathleen Stock's article, which did not defend or show much sympathy for the girls although the 12 year old is clearly scared in the video, but was concerned about the right wing narrative on X which emerged as it fitted the narrative of anti immigrant propaganda.

Link to origional vidio filmed by Mr Belov

Ilia Belov & sister found guilty of attacking girls in Dundee

Kathleen Stock 'Britain doesn’t need stupid hot takes'

A brother and sister stand outside a court building. The woman is looking around a pillar at the camera and the man is grinning

Brother and sister guilty of attacking teenage girls in Dundee

A court heard the man made sexual remarks to a group of girls before he and his sister attacked two of the group

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2d83w1yvyo

OP posts:
Thread gallery
7
askso · Yesterday 23:12

Stock mocked the children in her article, she didn’t just simply get it wrong. She saw that video, the why are you touching a 12 year old audio, the pure panic of the girls. And instead of believing those girls and considering why, why are the girls screaming, carrying knives etc (it’s pretty obvious) she made a joke about them, the victims.

Many commentators, fell over backwards to try and make the child victims the bad guys.
then people are asking why are they carrying weapons, see above, working class girls are not believed, it happened with the grooming gangs. If the police, the press, politicians, public are going to not believe you, instead mock you, not protect you, you’re going to try and do something within your power as a child to protect yourself.

Should children be carrying weapons? Not in an ideal world, but are some of them going to because of a history of adults failing them even if it’s not the wisest choice so they can have a feeling of safety and security that no one else is providing for them? Yes.

and it would be a tough conversation to have, the “don’t take a weapon out” one because the obvious follow up question, is going to be who or what will protect me then if I can’t protect myself? and the answer for many, is no one.

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · Yesterday 23:15

Shedmistress · Yesterday 21:45

Bindel and Stock are petrified of being called Ultras so were unable to see how ridiculous it was that a girl had to resort to carrying weapons because of the fear of ever being called racist for pointing out the bleeding obvious.

Kellie-Jay Keen, Aug 29, 2025:

She’s a child. A frightened child. She may be a very badly behaved child. But without the full, verified, facts I’m unlikely to condemn her or blame her for this interaction. I’m likely to think the adult male with a camera is at fault. I certainly wouldn’t be gleeful at the thought she’s to blame.
The Pakistani muslim paedophile rape gangs relied upon us all seeing a trouble maker rather than a victim, that’s the fucking point of this post.

x.com/ThePosieParker/status/1961377232812745096

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 23:30

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 21:03

It is the height of hypocrisy, isn’t it? The police put out misinformation/disinformation themselves. They stated that the girls (‘youths’) approached the Bulgarian couple. John Swinney swiftly commenting that misinformation was circulating. Yet, we now know it was not misinformation that the dodgy man was the one harassing the girls. Also, it was the man and his sister who assaulted the girls.

First of all, if it was not clear what happened, the police shouldn’t have put out that statement. However, the truth, and the fairness for the girls seem to have been incidental to them. If it wasn’t yet established exactly what happened, the police knew it could be a falsehood they were peddling. So, I think the police knowingly saying something that they knew could be untrue was disinformation. They just didn’t care if what they said was true or not, and tried to pretend others were the one’s peddling lies.

Second of all, if on checking of cctv etc, they could see what happened, they should have retracted what they said as being unsubstantiated. They could easily have said their previous statement was misinformation. If they were quite happy to issue that first statement claiming the girls had approached the couple, it would be a bit coy to suddenly pretend to be concerned about an ongoing case. There should be a formal apology to the girls and their families if that is not already done. And the public they are supposed to serve without fear or favour. And a change in their fast and loose approach to their statements. Especially when it involves women and girls, as this seems to be their very careless spot.

If John Swinney was concerned about misinformation, he should have said it will all come out in the trial. Not adding his tuppence into the misinformation soup.

I think it is how the police, and politicians, acted which is most worrying (and shocking) here. I mean, would you really trust them with any sexual crimes.

Ok, I’m very cynical. And I think becoming more so with every revelation of how the police/ authorities/ societies are complicit in the abuse and lack of justice for women and girls.

Edited

Hamza yousef put out this

Dundee girl with axe verdict- Ilia Belov found guilty of assault and injury
Dundee girl with axe verdict- Ilia Belov found guilty of assault and injury
mrshoho · Today 08:11

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 23:30

Hamza yousef put out this

Yousaf"s priorities were clear to see. Gleeful that he could refute the nasty far right and sneer at the white working class children of Scotland.

Greenwitchart · Today 08:15

Shudacudawuda · Yesterday 12:48

Because she was a scared 12 year old who was let down by the adults in her life (including the authorities) that should have been protecting her from scum bags like this. Kids don't always make the best decisions, especially when under threat. Poor girl, makes me think of the grooming gangs where the girls were arrested instead of the obvious paedophile men.

This.

The child is not at fault here for protecting herself and the other girls she was with.

It is all the adults who failed to protect her and the man who sexualised her who are the problem.

mrshoho · Today 09:05

Meanwhile another serious assault on a 17 year old girl in Barnsley yesterday. Stabbed from behind in the neck by a man. The footage is all over X and FB and it is horrific only a brief mention on bbc local news. Mainstream news appears to be playing the severity of the attack as non life changing but seeing the footage it is barbaric.

mrshoho · Today 09:45

Sorry yes Burnley. Poor girl, don't know how her life is not going to changed after this.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 09:49

That’s horrific.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 09:50

Greenwitchart · Today 08:15

This.

The child is not at fault here for protecting herself and the other girls she was with.

It is all the adults who failed to protect her and the man who sexualised her who are the problem.

Edited

Also this. Poor 12 year kid, having to deal with being sexually harassed and assaulted by adults and then made out to be the one in the wrong with vile comments about her.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 09:52

Cailleach1 · Yesterday 21:03

It is the height of hypocrisy, isn’t it? The police put out misinformation/disinformation themselves. They stated that the girls (‘youths’) approached the Bulgarian couple. John Swinney swiftly commenting that misinformation was circulating. Yet, we now know it was not misinformation that the dodgy man was the one harassing the girls. Also, it was the man and his sister who assaulted the girls.

First of all, if it was not clear what happened, the police shouldn’t have put out that statement. However, the truth, and the fairness for the girls seem to have been incidental to them. If it wasn’t yet established exactly what happened, the police knew it could be a falsehood they were peddling. So, I think the police knowingly saying something that they knew could be untrue was disinformation. They just didn’t care if what they said was true or not, and tried to pretend others were the one’s peddling lies.

Second of all, if on checking of cctv etc, they could see what happened, they should have retracted what they said as being unsubstantiated. They could easily have said their previous statement was misinformation. If they were quite happy to issue that first statement claiming the girls had approached the couple, it would be a bit coy to suddenly pretend to be concerned about an ongoing case. There should be a formal apology to the girls and their families if that is not already done. And the public they are supposed to serve without fear or favour. And a change in their fast and loose approach to their statements. Especially when it involves women and girls, as this seems to be their very careless spot.

If John Swinney was concerned about misinformation, he should have said it will all come out in the trial. Not adding his tuppence into the misinformation soup.

I think it is how the police, and politicians, acted which is most worrying (and shocking) here. I mean, would you really trust them with any sexual crimes.

Ok, I’m very cynical. And I think becoming more so with every revelation of how the police/ authorities/ societies are complicit in the abuse and lack of justice for women and girls.

Edited

Quite.

ilovebrie8 · Today 10:17

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 23:30

Hamza yousef put out this

Has Humza Yousef apologised?
He needs to as he was quick to say the girl was lying?
He doesn’t like whites. He said Scotland is too white.

Hoardasurass · Today 10:31

ilovebrie8 · Today 10:17

Has Humza Yousef apologised?
He needs to as he was quick to say the girl was lying?
He doesn’t like whites. He said Scotland is too white.

No he hasn't and hes been approached for comments from the Scottish daily express, the courier and the daily record but has so far failed to make any comment.

Both useless and his wife (a dundee councillor) were quick to call her a racist and smear everyone who believed her as far right. They seem very quick to call everyone racist as they did the same to a nursery when they didn't have space for their child, with threats of a lawsuit which useless quickly settled out of crt when the nursery counter sued.
Tbh he is the most racist person in Scottish politics but gets a free pass as his is anti white racism

ilovebrie8 · Today 10:42

I know @Hoardasurass he is despicable as is his wife.

He needs to apologise.

He is bad news and should not be anywhere near public office.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread