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A man having fun most of the night in the women's toilets. Can't make this up.

96 replies

MyAmpleSheep · 09/06/2026 17:46

A man having fun in the women's toilets. FFS.

For Lexi, the ladies is a huge part of her new life living openly as a woman. “I don’t want to go back. I have my life”. There are nights out where she spends most of the night in the women’s loos “chatting complete shit with other drunk girls”.
“You’ll be in there and someone will say ‘oh I love your coat, and you’ll say ‘I love your hat,’ and you’ll have a great time, you’ll chat-chat-chat,” she says.
“I don’t want to give that up, not now that I’ve had that. I don’t take a second of my life as a woman for granted because I know what it was like before. It wasn’t fun.”

https://thebristolcable.org/2026/06/i-dont-want-to-use-the-trans-loos/

'I don't want to use the trans loos'

In the first in a series, trans Bristolians tell their stories about how the Supreme Court's recent decision has impacted their lives

https://thebristolcable.org/2026/06/i-dont-want-to-use-the-trans-loos/

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Oncemorewithsome · 10/06/2026 07:36

Mochudubh · 09/06/2026 18:09

It's the bollocks that they all pass and that using the toilets for their sex would out them.

Mate, the reason you haven't been challenged in the ladies is that WE SEE YOU and we don't want to challenge you because we don't know how you'll react. If a woman chats shit with you, I'll lay good money that she's just trying to deflect until she can get out of there.

THIS

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 10/06/2026 07:38

illuminada · 10/06/2026 07:30

A night in the women’s toilets then home for a pillow fight? Living his best life!

Exactly. Meanwhile there’s women in the club reporting to security that there’s a creepy guy who’s been in the ladies toilets all night wearing a flasher Mac (he said he’s wearing a very out of context coat) and accosting women.

Coldwetlettuce · 10/06/2026 07:51

I don’t get why “Sarah” had a panic attack and went off work sick after the Supreme Court ruling…if no one knew she was trans anyway, and she’d been using the women’s toilet all this time then why didn’t she just carry on using it?

WhatterySquash · 10/06/2026 08:06

JohnnyFedora · 09/06/2026 18:01

Ugh who knows actual women who hang about in toilets?

Especially just to chat shit with other women?

Men are fucking weird...

Yes I always think this about so much of what some TW seem to get validated by/excited about.

You know who doesn’t get a massive thrill from chatting to another woman in the toilets? Women.

Who do other women never simper to and tell them they’re just as much of a woman as the rest of us? Actual women.

Who doesn’t think having massive boobs, menstruating or going for a smear are a source of excitement and delight? Women.

these should be obvious signs that TW are not women - even to themselves.

Bitwarmtoday · 10/06/2026 08:11

I met my best friend of 30 years, chatting in a toilet. Chatting in the toilets is a big thing in my city.

WhatterySquash · 10/06/2026 08:16

Yes I’m not saying it never happens, and as a PP said it can definitely be a thing in nightclubs, especially when avoiding men. But if you chat in a toilet it’s because it’s a natural interaction. Not waiting in a toilet all night to have chats with whoever will indulge you, to make you feel more womanly.

JacknDiane · 10/06/2026 08:32

Something totally sinister about a man dressed as a woman wanting to spend time in women's toilets.

Datun · 10/06/2026 08:37

WhatterySquash · 10/06/2026 08:16

Yes I’m not saying it never happens, and as a PP said it can definitely be a thing in nightclubs, especially when avoiding men. But if you chat in a toilet it’s because it’s a natural interaction. Not waiting in a toilet all night to have chats with whoever will indulge you, to make you feel more womanly.

This.

Women don't use the toilets as a source of meeting friends, bonding with other women and showing how womanly they are.

There is no doubt, especially amongst quite young women, that there's the odd daft conversation which a couple of women will comment on in the loo. But it's usually about men, not with them.

He's using the toilet and the women in the toilet to validate his self image. I've no doubt it's fun for him. But, as usual, all these men demonstrate is their rank misogyny.

And if he keeps doing it, he's definitely going to get challenged. The times they are a-changing. Then we'll see how fricken 'fun' he is.

NancyMeyers · 10/06/2026 08:38

Only reason women spend a long time in the loos is because there's not enough loos.

stillcantfindreverse · 10/06/2026 09:09

Well that's as obvious as hell....

gender neutral facilities of course will be full of the women who love using mixed sex spaces and will wish to help people with gender identities feel recognised and supported as their sex, so I'm not sure why he can't carry on enjoying his chats and lipstick swaps and hat comments with them.

He merely can't enjoy trying to do this with women who want and need a single sex space, and who would not have been enjoying his company or even able to enter if he was there.

VexedofVirginiaWater · 10/06/2026 09:16

I remember going to a meeting right near the beginning of all this - maybe a decade ago. It was open to TIMs, not just women, to discuss how this would impinge on women's spaces and rights. I remember being confused when some obvious males in dresses stood up and announced that they didn't want men in women's toilets and I didn't dare ask if they included themselves in that. But the overriding memory was of a man in a dress - which was the only effort he seemed to have made at "being a woman" as he had men's shoes on and a short male haircut - after ranting on the stage about the spousal block - spent the rest of the evening in the women's toilets, drawing anyone who went in into conversations. I thought it was creepy then and it is no less creepy now.

stillcantfindreverse · 10/06/2026 09:21

The idea that women aren't just animated props and resources for fantasies is very stuck.

harderthanIexpected · 10/06/2026 09:58

Mochudubh · 09/06/2026 18:09

It's the bollocks that they all pass and that using the toilets for their sex would out them.

Mate, the reason you haven't been challenged in the ladies is that WE SEE YOU and we don't want to challenge you because we don't know how you'll react. If a woman chats shit with you, I'll lay good money that she's just trying to deflect until she can get out of there.

Sadly, I think this is only partly true.

I expect many of the women he interacted with were absolutely delighted to take the opportunity to signal their 'kindness' and 'inclusivity' credentials by indulging him in 'girlie chat'. I can think at least two of my young adult female relatives who without a shadow of a doubt would behave like this.

What this man is failing to understand is that he didn't, and cannot ever, experience the natural, spontaneous interaction that happens between two females. What he experienced was a stereotyped performance of two women talking in a female space. And in his fetishised enjoyment of it all, he doubtless failed to notice the uncomfortable women who were avoiding him.

Oncemorewithsome · 11/06/2026 08:06

I have only once been in the toilet with a trans woman. I was genuinely afraid because of their behaviour. I appeased and made nice because I was scared and alone in the loo. Men don’t understand that ‘being friendly’ is a skill women use to avoid male anger from being very young. So they mistakenly think they are welcome. They aren’t. Women are uncomfortable at best when a 6ft male stands next to them at the sink and comments on their clothes or make up.

KitchenDancefloor · 11/06/2026 08:27

I recently had an interaction with two men in a public loo. Same day, same loo but different times of day.

Man 1 mistakenly came in because of the confusing signage, looked mortified, apologised and backed out trying to avoid eye contact.

Man 2 in a dress and make up flung the door open and strutted in with a look on his face that said ‘challenge me, I dare you’. He deliberately made eye contact.

My socialised response was to ignore both but for different reasons. For man 1 it was to save his embarrassment for man 2 it was for my safety.

I wonder how man 2 thought that interaction went. I’d guess at ‘I passed because a woman in the loos didn’t comment’. Too right I didn’t, I was alone with a tall angry looking man in a dress.

EggSugarButterLemon · 11/06/2026 09:08

They really don’t understand/don’t give a fuck about how women manage situations constantly following a judgement around safety.

I’ll give a none GC example.

Out running with my DH, he’s ahead of me as I’m slow. There is a man acting weird on the side of the rode we are running on, my DH runs past him. I clock odd man about 200ms away. I cross road and run on other side.

When we talked about this my DH had yes clocked the man but had dismissed him and just ran past him without thinking about it.

So people in this article either a) have not capacity of imagination or curiosity about how women are experiencing them being in the toilet or b) Have a motive to cause women this level of discomfort.

Or I guess a+b

DrBlackbird · 11/06/2026 09:26

harderthanIexpected · 10/06/2026 09:58

Sadly, I think this is only partly true.

I expect many of the women he interacted with were absolutely delighted to take the opportunity to signal their 'kindness' and 'inclusivity' credentials by indulging him in 'girlie chat'. I can think at least two of my young adult female relatives who without a shadow of a doubt would behave like this.

What this man is failing to understand is that he didn't, and cannot ever, experience the natural, spontaneous interaction that happens between two females. What he experienced was a stereotyped performance of two women talking in a female space. And in his fetishised enjoyment of it all, he doubtless failed to notice the uncomfortable women who were avoiding him.

Agree with this. And when I was 20, I’d have very likely been one of those women chatting to him and possibly feeling conflicted in feeling progressive and inclusive for doing so on the one hand, but a vague sense of creepiness on the other. Not having a clue or thinking about how wrong it was for a man to be acting as he is in indulging his fetish by exploiting women’s social conditioning not to confront and instead be support humans.

SwirlyGates · 11/06/2026 09:55

NancyMeyers · 10/06/2026 08:38

Only reason women spend a long time in the loos is because there's not enough loos.

I also remember, as a young woman, going to the nightclub loos with a friend to get away from the creepy guy following me around. Wouldn't have been much good if he could have come in as well,

Shortshriftandlethal · 11/06/2026 10:01

JohnnyFedora · 09/06/2026 18:01

Ugh who knows actual women who hang about in toilets?

Especially just to chat shit with other women?

Men are fucking weird...

Dylan Mulvaney?

Pinkbus · 11/06/2026 10:46

Obviously it's just madness, but I know the kinds of conversations he means. No woman is spending all evening in the loos, but if you did you'd be party to lots of fun conversations, slightly tipsy compliments and putting the world to rights with passing stangers.

It's rare, IME, on a big night out, not to chat with other "girls" in passing, in the toilet, and I'm a not chatty introvert.

Obviously we can't have men in there, but I don't know why people are trying to say it's not a thing that happens.

Flukeman · 11/06/2026 12:44

Pinkbus · 11/06/2026 10:46

Obviously it's just madness, but I know the kinds of conversations he means. No woman is spending all evening in the loos, but if you did you'd be party to lots of fun conversations, slightly tipsy compliments and putting the world to rights with passing stangers.

It's rare, IME, on a big night out, not to chat with other "girls" in passing, in the toilet, and I'm a not chatty introvert.

Obviously we can't have men in there, but I don't know why people are trying to say it's not a thing that happens.

I think what doesn't happen is women going out with the sole intention of spending most of the night in the loos chatting. I don't know any women who do that or look forward to that specific aspect when planning an evening out.

ManyShapesOfPasta · 11/06/2026 12:55

Pinkbus · 11/06/2026 10:46

Obviously it's just madness, but I know the kinds of conversations he means. No woman is spending all evening in the loos, but if you did you'd be party to lots of fun conversations, slightly tipsy compliments and putting the world to rights with passing stangers.

It's rare, IME, on a big night out, not to chat with other "girls" in passing, in the toilet, and I'm a not chatty introvert.

Obviously we can't have men in there, but I don't know why people are trying to say it's not a thing that happens.

It definitely happens, but when you're talking about the night to your friends the next day you'd never mention the short random chat in the toilets would you, whereas this pervert man is only wanting that part.

WhatterySquash · 11/06/2026 12:57

Flukeman · 11/06/2026 12:44

I think what doesn't happen is women going out with the sole intention of spending most of the night in the loos chatting. I don't know any women who do that or look forward to that specific aspect when planning an evening out.

And although it does happen, when it happens between women, it's genuine and natural. No one is scared or faking it. What these men fail to grasp (because they're not women and have no understanding of what it's like) is that the interactions women will have with a male in the female toilet (if they appear positive and are not just "you shouldn't be in here") will be informed by trying to avoid upsetting him out of fear/wariness, or trying to suck up to him in order to be a good progressive. Neither of these are how women really interact with each other.

If there was an actual woman who spent the whole night in the toilets trying to initiate converdsations for the sake of it, most other women would think she was a bit weird, possibly not well. I think most women would be kind about it but that wouldn't really be the normal kind of toilet chat either.

Pinkbus · 11/06/2026 13:01

Flukeman · 11/06/2026 12:44

I think what doesn't happen is women going out with the sole intention of spending most of the night in the loos chatting. I don't know any women who do that or look forward to that specific aspect when planning an evening out.

No and I don't think he's sayjng that. He's saying it's an element of the night out he'll miss. So be it.

I was responding to PP's claiming it couldn't possibly happen.

Flukeman · 11/06/2026 13:02

Pinkbus · 11/06/2026 13:01

No and I don't think he's sayjng that. He's saying it's an element of the night out he'll miss. So be it.

I was responding to PP's claiming it couldn't possibly happen.

He literally says he often spends most of the evenings in the toilet. Know any women who do that?

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