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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fire Brigades Union statement on sex and gender in workplace facilities

34 replies

Imnobody4 · 03/06/2026 13:06

From twitter.
Janet Murray
https://x.com/i/status/2061485848114135315

^The Fire Brigades Union stands ‘firmly in solidarity with trans, non-binary and gender diverse members.’
But not, apparently, with women who wish to undress - or use the toilet - without males present.
This union appears to be unaware that being forced to share facilities with male colleagues may cause ‘fear’ for women.
Or that they also have the right to ‘respect and dignity’ at work. And for their employers to follow the law.
Extraordinary.^
If you click on the link you'll see what they've put out. Sorry can't copy it direct as their account is protected!

Here is a scorching letter from Baronness Nicholson in response.
https://x.com/i/status/2062120242453639268

Emma Harriet Nicholson (@Baroness_Nichol) on X

A big Trades Union seems ignorant on Employment Law

https://x.com/i/status/2062120242453639268

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MarieDeGournay · 03/06/2026 15:33

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 03/06/2026 15:26

I think we are starting to see that "I understand where you're coming from but, respectfully, I disagree" has been left behind in the dust, as women screech away onto the highway, glancing at the rear view mirror, watching "be kind" rapidly drop away in the trail of exhaust from our Ford Econoline.

Is that the Ford Econoline as in Nanci Griffith's
Too many nights he left her crying with his cheating and his lying
But his big mistake was him buying her that Ford Econoline
😁

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 03/06/2026 16:02

MarieDeGournay · 03/06/2026 15:33

Is that the Ford Econoline as in Nanci Griffith's
Too many nights he left her crying with his cheating and his lying
But his big mistake was him buying her that Ford Econoline
😁

😁
She had a husband on her bumper
She had five restless children...

MarieDeGournay · 03/06/2026 17:16

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 03/06/2026 16:02

😁
She had a husband on her bumper
She had five restless children...

Edited

But she was singin' as sweet as a mockingbird
In that Ford Econoline

Brilliant, isn't it?😁

MarieDeGournay · 03/06/2026 17:21

Imnobody4 · 03/06/2026 13:06

From twitter.
Janet Murray
https://x.com/i/status/2061485848114135315

^The Fire Brigades Union stands ‘firmly in solidarity with trans, non-binary and gender diverse members.’
But not, apparently, with women who wish to undress - or use the toilet - without males present.
This union appears to be unaware that being forced to share facilities with male colleagues may cause ‘fear’ for women.
Or that they also have the right to ‘respect and dignity’ at work. And for their employers to follow the law.
Extraordinary.^
If you click on the link you'll see what they've put out. Sorry can't copy it direct as their account is protected!

Here is a scorching letter from Baronness Nicholson in response.
https://x.com/i/status/2062120242453639268

Imnobody4
Here is a scorching letter from Baronness Nicholson in response.
https://x.com/i/status/2062120242453639268

Scorching is right!Grin

Fire Brigades Union statement on sex and gender in workplace facilities
CassOle · 03/06/2026 17:56

I have stolen this from the X replies. 😁

Fire Brigades Union statement on sex and gender in workplace facilities
Dragonasaurus · 03/06/2026 19:31

Keeptoiletssafe · 03/06/2026 14:22

Last year I did try and discuss safety design aspects with the them like door gaps and Visual Audio alarms. As soon as I mentioned single sex design being safer the conversation stopped.

I think it’s really important to quickly assess who’s left in the building and be able to ‘sweep’ toilets easily. As a teacher in a fire drill, I could do this in seconds in the boys and girls toilets. Doors that are left in the open position and have floor to door gaps are best.

In single sex toilets there’s a big audio visual alarm in the washroom area that people can see and hear from the space above the door. There’s one to buy and service. In private cubicles or toilet rooms each one should have this. But they sometimes don’t. Deaf people have gone to the toilet, then re-entered offices not knowing where everyone has gone. One poor bloke was then met by firemen who carried him out the building.

If the area in front of the toilet is mixed sex, the toilet cubicle or room has to be private. Mixed sex toilet open onto corridors so there’s also the question as to whether they have to be fire doors. This is interesting because of school toilet configurations. There were lots of questions I would have liked answers to.

Surely this is very important - how much longer does it take to check every cubicle? As you say, presumably it’s much harder to hear the alarm in soundproofed cubicles…..

Maybe the fire service (is there a national body?) deserve an open letter so that everyone can see how they put men’s desires above children’s (everyone’s) safety in an area where they are supposed to provide the expertise

thetinsoldier · 03/06/2026 19:37

An excellent letter.

very on point. Who the blazes indeed. What a burn!

SwirlyGates · 04/06/2026 16:35

Imnobody4 · 03/06/2026 13:06

From twitter.
Janet Murray
https://x.com/i/status/2061485848114135315

^The Fire Brigades Union stands ‘firmly in solidarity with trans, non-binary and gender diverse members.’
But not, apparently, with women who wish to undress - or use the toilet - without males present.
This union appears to be unaware that being forced to share facilities with male colleagues may cause ‘fear’ for women.
Or that they also have the right to ‘respect and dignity’ at work. And for their employers to follow the law.
Extraordinary.^
If you click on the link you'll see what they've put out. Sorry can't copy it direct as their account is protected!

Here is a scorching letter from Baronness Nicholson in response.
https://x.com/i/status/2062120242453639268

Ooh Baroness Nicholson is (rightly) pissed off!

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