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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

HMRC gives trans people access to VIP hotline

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HannahinHampshire · 27/05/2026 18:29

‘HMRC gives trans people to VIP hotline’. Why do the records of transgender people require greater protection? I spent an hour waiting for HMRC to answer my call the other day and then I was cut off before I could speak to an advisor.

www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/cfbb2461a6f96ebf

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 29/05/2026 20:55

nicepotoftea · 29/05/2026 19:41

In practice I think you need to take that up with the judges in the Goodwin case, but I don't think you have any avenue to do so.

for now I'd settle for someone who is citing the right to privacy explaining to me why they personally think it is important for the state to help some people keep their sex a secret

Wearenotborg · 30/05/2026 05:51

DeepWinterSleep · 29/05/2026 19:13

But you clearly didn't understand because you keep circling back to "well why don't other people get to call the special hotline!". Because it's not a special magic hotline for favourable treatment for precious princesses, it's a department trained to handle special category data, if HMRC don't hold any special category data on you then obviously you don't need to call that department. It really isn't more complicated than that. Sit back and enjoy the fact you can access your account online, which PDI customers can't.

I haven't said anything nasty to anyone here.

I'm not talking about being nasty to anyone here, I'm talking about the nasty aggressive dehumanising language which has been used throughout this thread and is commonly used on this board to talk about trans people.

Ooh like the poster who advocated for women to be raped with a splintery rolling pin? Yeah, that is dehumanising and hateful language. Or the one who laughed and mocked rape victims? Also hateful language.

ExitPursuedByABare · 30/05/2026 08:19

Ok @DeepWinterSleep - the shit show of the last 20 years not ten.

To my mind, trans people went quietly about their business, under the radar the way most of us live of our lives. What goes on in the bedroom stays in the bedroom. But all the out and proud, of course you can change sex, here let the state pay to help do you, have special status and special rights, completely fucked everything up.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/05/2026 09:28

ExitPursuedByABare · 30/05/2026 08:19

Ok @DeepWinterSleep - the shit show of the last 20 years not ten.

To my mind, trans people went quietly about their business, under the radar the way most of us live of our lives. What goes on in the bedroom stays in the bedroom. But all the out and proud, of course you can change sex, here let the state pay to help do you, have special status and special rights, completely fucked everything up.

Yes, I think the rough timeline is:

Some small groups of older male transsexuals (who originally wanted nothing to do with gay men or their rights) were working away behind the scenes to advance their aims from the 1990s.
They achieved the GRA in 2004, interestingly one of the main functions was to allow gay marriage to a limited group of homosexuals. So did the original anti gay transsexuals adopt a gay ‘benefit’ stance early on? (Obviously not a gay rights stance as not all gay men and lesbians would benefit)

Then in 2015 Stonewall saw a new ‘cause’ to fill its coffers champion.
The extensive Stonewall boosted government lobbying produced Teresa May’s intentions for self id.
Then Stonewalls indoctrination of schools and businesses in the ideology and lies about the law (while simultaneously campaigning to change the law they claimed already supported their position on self id) and hey presto we end up in the hot mess we currently find ourselves.

So this has been rumbling on for years, even back to the 70s but it was turbo charged by Stonewall about 10/11 years ago. It’s interesting to think that such a small group of men (as it was then) had such power, they could get a whole new law, not to right some terrible injustice, or prevent some terrible thing happening, but because they wanted to force everyone to pretend they had become women.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 30/05/2026 10:47

CornishDaughteroftheDawn
Some small groups of older male transsexuals (who originally wanted nothing to do with gay men or their rights) were working away behind the scenes to advance their aims from the 1990s.

From my personal knowledge (and listening quietly to people talking) I'd say you need to change "1990s" to "1980s" or even "mid to late 1970s", remembering when Liberty was subverted into misguidedly supporting PIE. The emphasis and means to the end were changed; the end remained the same, getting rid of safeguarding children from sexual predation. And even back then there were some women who foolishly lent support to their frankly perverted aims (take a bow Harriet Harman, for example) and even joined PIE.

You do later say "even back to the 1970s". I'd say that was definite, not tentative. People who are obsessive will in general be a lot more inclined to try to forward that obsession than people who couldn't care less about their obsession until their faces are rubbed in it might notice.

SingtotheCat · 30/05/2026 11:18

We can all ID as trans then. Swamp them with their discriminatory sport.

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