Sunderland Minster refusing to comply with Supreme Court ruling

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This is from their Facebook page today. No consideration for the women who do not want men in their spaces.

Yes re the privilege.

I stayed recently with a vicar whose background is as privileged as it gets, and who was extremely concerned about the gender ideology movement but he wasn't a) gay or b) a middle-aged woman who sees it as her mission to be kind. Add to those c) clergy with trans-identifying family members and that is a good proportion of 'the cloth'.

I think it was @SexRealistic ?? who said that each minister is equally, personally and legally responsible for safeguarding, much the same way that school governors are individually legally accountable for decisions made by the Boards of Governors? @SingleSexSpacesInSchools

Perhaps we can get some clarification from them if they can respond at some point? Thanks!

Yes the minister is accountable for safeguarding, and this is not in line with Church of England safeguarding as you are asking random adults to take kids to the loos.

There is no training for that.

Aside from that this woman seems to follow the Jolyon school of law - oh wiggle wiggle guidance … needs properly sealed in wax and delivered by a stork…..

No you plainly stupid person. The law is the law. Even if the guidance is wrong you can be sued on the basis of the LAW. So never mind your 40 days your reference to FWS said you know the law and knowingly broke it.

Thanks for the clarification!

As a 78 yo woman who lives in south Northumberland and who attends my local church, can I just say that I talk to a lot of similar age women and I haven't come across anybody who thinks that TWAW: my poor DH is frequently subjected to my rants when I read of yet more cases like this.

As a 78 yo woman who lives in south Northumberland and who attends my local church, can I just say that I talk to a lot of similar age women and I haven't come across anybody who thinks that TWAW:

Similar for me, although 3 years younger but living in the South East.

But I have come across 50 year old women of the be kind school - some of the most discriminated against.......

I received this reply from Bishop of Durham's PA this morning. Let's see if they do 'investigate'. I didn't make a 'complaint' as such. I focused on the fact they were exposing themselves to risk of litigation and risk of reputational damage

Great to hear - 👀 will keep an eye out

Very odd. It sounds quite sinister.

So you feel uncomfortable using a facility that men are evidently going to be allowed in, so we will ‘escort’ you and stand outside the toilet while you have a p*s or a sht in the ‘women’s’ toilet.
Assuming this role will be taken on by a woman - or a transwoman - as you accept there’s no ‘threat’ - well that’s going to be fine and dandy.

Are they positing this as a ‘solution’ because they know most helpers/cleaners/volunteers in churches are women? Or is it that they wouldn’t dream of asking a busy, important man to do the menial task of standing outside the toilet while a transwoman takes a sht of a pis in the Men’s toilet? Unless that man was a transwoman in which case s/he could only possibly assist someone in the ‘women’s’ toilet - because no man would be free or prepared to stand guard to protect them in the ‘Men’s’ toilet - and round and round it goes…

I hope they’re inundated with requests to have an escort in the Women’s toilets. I imagine their veneer of Christian kindliness and acceptance would descend into a near mania 😂