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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why is it that the trans issue is the only one where people are cancelled if they disagree with it?

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TFImBackIn · 25/05/2026 16:12

I was thinking today how there are people who vote differently to me, who are carnivores or vegan, who believe in capital punishment, who believe in unregulated drugs, who do or don't believe in climate change, who follow different religions, who think nobody has ever landed on the moon and so on, but it's possible to have a discussion about it - even if that ends pretty briefly in "We'll have to agree to disagree on that" - and it doesn't end in someone being cancelled.

The trans debate is the only one - as far as I can see - that's not allowed to be debated. I've not heard of people disowning their families over any of the above topics. If someone disagrees with someone else on those topics - and a million others - nobody says they're being violent and they're afraid of them and need to get away from them and be safe.

What Rachel Dolezal told everyone she was black and people discovered she wasn't - and worse when she wanted to represent black women and their struggle - then black women everywhere were allowed to say she was wrong and that their struggle and lived experience wasn't hers. There was no argument at all - maybe Rachel muttered a bit about it but everyone felt free to ridicule her for taking that on.

How come, then, when a fifty-year old Philip Bunce - "Call me Pippa or Pips" - was ranked number 32 in Top 100 Women in Business, women weren't allowed to say that was unfair and that our struggle and lived experience wasn't his?

What is it about this particular issue that makes people want to silence us, when other topics can be freely discussed?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/05/2026 10:31

IKWYM @GaIadriel

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/05/2026 11:24

GaIadriel · 27/05/2026 22:38

Well, boys are disruptive and girls often play dumb when they want to impress boys. Do you have a link I can read because Google is telling me the opposite?

Single-sex schools and unexpected STEM outcomes

“Boys in all-boys’ schools do better on the general math test than boys in co-ed schools. They’re also more likely to take the science-focused math test,” Park says. But, test scores for girls do not improve in all-girls’ schools. Rather, the outcomes are similar to those seen in co-ed schools.

https://penntoday.upenn.edu/features/single-sex-schools-and-unexpected-stem-outcomespenntoday.upenn.edu/features/single-sex-schools-and-unexpected-stem-outcomes

Girls in Single-Sex Schools Face Major STEM Access Gap

The 2025 I Wish Survey has found that more than half of girls in single-sex schools see limited subject choice as a barrier to pursuing STEM.

irishtechnews.ie/girls-in-single-sex-schools-face-stem-access-gap/amp/

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When I was at school girls not doing well in STEM subjects could be very simply explained by the quality of the teachers for those subjects: the maths and science teachers at my all-girls' schools, in particular the two I was at when I was making the choices of first O and then A level subjects, were terrible. At primary I had been a whizz at maths and loved the subject, but that all flew out of the window when I moved up to senior school. One honourable teaching exception between ages ten and thirteen managed to teach me from the new Cambridge maths course such that I understood calculus and set theory and such, but unfortunately I moved schools, lost her and was dumped into a traditional course two years behind everyone else having memorised a theorem a week for two years, and never caught up again. And at that school we had a choice of two out of three of physics, chemistry and biology, had to do only one of them, and had poor teachers for all three. So most of us ended up opting for arts subjects, for which there were no shortage of good teachers – and it isn't as if rigorous history or geography or languages or music or even art or drama are exactly soft options!

Maybe the girls were getting badly taught STEM by women who were badly taught STEM as girls. It would be self-perpetuating in that case, and we may not have caught up yet.

YorkshirePuddingsGreatestFan · 28/05/2026 17:19

They take it to extremes.

They were talking about going to park run at work and I said I wouldn't join in as I disagree with transwomen being in the records as women.

Someone went off it claiming I'm transphobic, bigoted etc. I said I'm not and I have have no problem with transwomen joining in park run, I'd politely chat to them and I wouldn't be unkind, but I do disagree with their times being registered as women.

They wouldn't have it though and claim I'm saying all transwomen should be excluded from park run 🙄

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/05/2026 17:30

They always do make the most extreme possible claim. For example I have yet to hear or read about a single trans person falling down dead because someone misgendered them, even though that is "literally killing" them.

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