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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are equality laws clear on sex and gender expression at work? Kids Toy Shop AGP

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MyShyCat · 24/05/2026 22:58

So yesterday I was in a local branch of a well known National Toy Superstore.

I needed to Click and Collect a large lego item for my daughters Birthday. I needed to be in and out as I was rushing to get back to set up for her party so i was already a little stressed thinking about getting stuck behind a long queue of people collecting random items and not being able to find their Order Number etc etc.

In the end, there was no queue and I was able to collect my item in record time.

However, I wasn't expecting to be served by a 6ft male member of staff with a receding hair-line called "Boudica" who had clearly "brought all of himself" to work that day. I wasn't prepared for the enourmous fake latex breasts that he was clearly wearing under his corporate uniform.

Problem is, what do I do? The teacher in me sees this as a safe-guarding issue (especially in a kids toy shop!) I don't believe for one minute that anyone has consented to be part of this mans fantasy.

Do equality laws actually permit this type of behaviour (even in a kids toy shop?) or am I just a big transphobe?

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/05/2026 15:15

They were a menace. Their ex-members probably still are, the ones who are not presently in prison or dead.

In 2024 the BBC got hold of the PIE membership list from the 1970s and discovered by investigation of about 150 of them that seventy had been working in jobs which brought them into trusted contact with children: teachers, social workers, sports coaches, youth workers, doctors, clergy, lay preachers and military officers involved in youth activities.... And the other half had almost all been convicted, cautioned, or charged for sexual offences against children. Looks as if the ones who were not caught (or have not yet been caught: this was only two years ago) were either luckier or more cunning than the ones who were. What happened to the other 166 I don't know; still out there, just getting on with their lives, I expect.

1984Now · 25/05/2026 15:16

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/05/2026 14:53

An end to child safeguarding was what the PIE (and PAL, but they were rumbled sooner) wanted back in the nineteen-seventies and -eighties, and those mostly-young-male members of that group haven't gone away; they've just morphed into another group under a different name and got forty or fifty years older. So they are now DOM as well as sincerely opposed to the protection of children from inappropriate sexualisation.

We in the GLF didn't think much of them back in the seventies either. Funnily enough, we were able to see a difference between what we called "kiddy-fiddlers" and homosexuals who wanted relationships among consenting adults without being persecuted about them.

The main thing PIE had going for them was that both Mary Whitehouse and the National Front detested them, which made some misguided people think they must be OK really! Affiliation with the PIE definitely wasn't the NCCL's finest hour. (That organisation changed its name to "Liberty", possibly because of unfortunate associations remembered by a few of us.) And I think the Liberal Party may still blush a bit when they are forced to think about that decade, as may some older members of the Labour party.

No doubt the trials and tribulations that society went in from the 70s into full equality when dealing with gays and gay rights are absolutely played on and used as a moral shield by trans ideologues.
Ie, in a kid's toy shop in the 70s, overt gayness from a shop assistant was at the very least frowned on, public humiliation, at worst led to the sack.
Our "friend" here with the fake boobs would very much see himself as equally prejudiced against with the attitude that he can't bring his "whole self" to work.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/05/2026 15:20

Yes, we were useful idiots for perverts when we were campaigning for gay rights! Very annoying, in retrospect. Merely kicking them out wasn't really enough, but we didn't know that.

Emilesgran · 27/05/2026 06:25

EmilyinEverton · 24/05/2026 23:09

Do equality laws actually permit this type of behaviour (even in a kids toy shop?)

Maybe ask yourself whether a woman with enormous fake breasts would be so triggering for the answer.

A better comparison would be a woman wearing an absolutely massive cod piece. And yes I think people would find that distracting and frankly bizarre.

Grammarnut · 27/05/2026 11:24

EmilyinEverton · 24/05/2026 23:09

Do equality laws actually permit this type of behaviour (even in a kids toy shop?)

Maybe ask yourself whether a woman with enormous fake breasts would be so triggering for the answer.

That's not the case and cannot be argued to be relevant to the case in point. A man who is guising as a woman is an existential threat. A woman who wears fake breasts (maybe she has had a mastectomy and is waiting for reconstruction?) is much less of a threat - though if not the reason I just cited then one would wonder about her mental health, which is also a safeguarding issue, but not the same as the man in fake tits who is wearing his fetish in public (which is a massive red flag).

Grammarnut · 27/05/2026 11:30

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/05/2026 15:20

Yes, we were useful idiots for perverts when we were campaigning for gay rights! Very annoying, in retrospect. Merely kicking them out wasn't really enough, but we didn't know that.

I remember being taken in by PIE's arguments that children should be allowed to express their sexuality - it seemed friendly and cool and liberating. I was niave, I know, but it was all mixed up with gay lib and freedom from old-fashioned and sexist constraint. Looking back, we were partly mad and partly manipulated by very clever people who knew they wanted child safeguarding removed but did not say those actual words, but used esp young peoples' desire for freedom for all to push their vile agenda as liberation for kids. I shudder at my niave young self. My revelation came when I had a child - a realisation that made me much quicker to sort out what trans ideology was and how it related to removing safeguarding from children. Same message, different clothes.

1984Now · 27/05/2026 11:32

It's also not as if a female in a workplace with fake breasts wouldn't be hugely disruptive. Would it be fine to impose that in a school eg, where female and male students would be hugely pressurised for different reasons.
No, that should not be allowed either.
This is not just a trans/women's rights issue, it's also simple societal norms being taken advantage of.
That goes beyond trans and into bad actors in society feeling emboldened to take the piss. Only their comfort is what matters, any objection is not permitted.

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