Are equality laws clear on sex and gender expression at work? Kids Toy Shop AGP

[MyShyCat]

So yesterday I was in a local branch of a well known National Toy Superstore.

I needed to Click and Collect a large lego item for my daughters Birthday. I needed to be in and out as I was rushing to get back to set up for her party so i was already a little stressed thinking about getting stuck behind a long queue of people collecting random items and not being able to find their Order Number etc etc.

In the end, there was no queue and I was able to collect my item in record time.

However, I wasn't expecting to be served by a 6ft male member of staff with a receding hair-line called "Boudica" who had clearly "brought all of himself" to work that day. I wasn't prepared for the enourmous fake latex breasts that he was clearly wearing under his corporate uniform.

Problem is, what do I do? The teacher in me sees this as a safe-guarding issue (especially in a kids toy shop!) I don't believe for one minute that anyone has consented to be part of this mans fantasy.

Do equality laws actually permit this type of behaviour (even in a kids toy shop?) or am I just a big transphobe?

Strongly suspect that 'women' would, legally and biologically, be the wrong word for several of 'em.

Self-righteous female handmaidens are indeed a problem, although thank the gods in the minority here.

Most of the posts justifying this man's fetish have been posted by a single poster who calls himself 'Emily'.

There are a few other posters (whose names I don't recognise) who have also posted in favour of bringing fetishes to work.

Those posters are probably also male.

Yes, let us stipulate how people dress based on perceived sex. Great idea! What could possibly go wrong?

I've never been aware of a woman wearing a strap on. What done privately, without the intention that it's clocked in public is their own business.

But massive fake tits on a man is of course intended to be noticed. In this case by children.

The fact that you're defending it is disgraceful.

To avoid this sort of situation, we have a dress code. Basically a woman wouldn’t have be allowed to wear that so a trans woman wouldn’t either. But the dress code was written after a very OTT S&M type of outfit was being worn by a young adult male in our workplace. Previously we never needed a dress code! Everyone quickly agreed to having one which essentially says in nicer language … don’t expose yourself or wear sex clothes to work.

There's a difference between what's worn and work and worn in your own time.

No massive plastic fake tits seems a perfectly legitimate dress code for working in a toyshop

Hi Lorna.

Just so everyone knows... I'm a guy.

Do you not have a dress code at work?
Do your kids have a dress code at school?

I work from home in cybersecurity, the dress code is about as relaxed as it can be but if I join video calls this week with my tits hanging out or a boob tube then I would expect someone to say something about how my inappropriate clothing.

My daughter has just entered the rolling your skirt up period of life and I’ve warned her that the school are clear that skirts need to be knee length, that I’ve bought her knee length skirts, if she gets a detention it will be her fault and I’ll support it. I don’t much care if her skirt of mid thigh if I’m completely honest but there is a clear and established rule in place, if doesn’t present a h&s issue for her skirt to sit on her knee, it doesn’t cause her or anyone else harm, there are options for trousers if she’d prefer, so while the rule exists she needs to follow it or accept the consequences.

You can express your personality and style choices in a way that is appropriate for the situation.

It's amazing how often it's the overnight visitors from wherever who are so desperate to erode safeguarding boundaries for children. Arguing that objecting to a fetishist display of oversize tits in a toy shop is "projection".
Imagine that - safeguarding children against predators is "projection".

No chance mate. Women and mothers know otherwise.

Wearing comedy breasts Is not gender non conformity

No darling it really wouldn't 😆😆 what an embarrassing thing for you to say

If this is Smyths Toys, they’re Christians and I would expect them to care about the well-being of the children who come into their stores and the comfort of the mothers accompanying them. Write to them, tell them your concerns.

I think some people are very naive when it comes to the nature of men and their depravities.

A woman with enormous fake breasts wouldn’t belong to the demographic that represents the greatest danger to women and children.

So wearing huge fake rubber tits is stereotypical female behaviour is it? Is that really how these men see women - as giant pumped up sex objects? No one has a problem with men wearing dresses or women wearing suits and ties, so long as the attire is professional and appropriate for the work place.

I'm with you on this.

It's hugely inappropriate and unacceptable.

The fact people even dreamt this was ok shows how serious a problem that this is.

I think some people are very naive when it comes to the nature of men and their depravities.

The men posting on here are not naive, they are intentional.

Hi Sashh. Thanks for the comment.

Yup... The Teacher in me is screaming "pervert" and HUGE safeguarding issue but we live in a topsy-turvy world where doing something as weird as what this member of staff is doing can indeed be claimed by some as "gender expression."

There are plenty of us who understand the concept of autogynephilia and that "Boudica" is getting his rocks-off but how should I package a letter of complaint so that the Toy Shops HR Dept understand how unacceptable wearing huge fake tits infront of kids is?

It's NOT gender expression is just FECKN weird.

It was just 'Boys Don't Cry'

Great typo though, really made me laugh, I think 'Big Boy's Don't Cry' is probably another genre altogether.

You don’t think a woman wearing enormous fake comedy breast would be weird?! Ok…

The problem is that they understand perfectly well how unacceptable it is, but they're pretending not to. That's hard to counter.

I guess you could ask how this aligns with their safeguarding policies and dress code policies?

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@EmilyinEverton “Lots of butch women sneak a rolled sock in their undies. Ever seen the movie 'Big Boys Don't Cry' thats a true story?”
Trans men (as the woman in Boys Don’t Cry is) do this, butch lesbians who identify as women would never do this.

No. A sex realist.

A man wearing obvious, oversized fake breasts is an attention seeking fetishist. There’s a time and a place for that, and it’s not a children’s toy shop.

I have (natural) larger than average breasts, if I turned up at work with a uniform that was revealing cleavage or deliberately altered to highlight my huge boobs, HR would have a ‘uniform policy’ conversation with me. This man has actively chosen to wear large fake breasts, he could’ve worn smaller, less obvious prosthetics, and still given himself the ‘I’m a lady’ feeling. Instead he chose to turn up as Cupid Stunt. That’s a fetish. That’s inappropriate for work in a high street children’s toy store.