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HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 18/05/2026 19:05

ArabellaScott · 18/05/2026 18:00

I've made a note.

Gulp.
I do like the caramel wafers.

JanesLittleGirl · 18/05/2026 19:17

I joined for the feminism but stayed for the Tunnocks.

ArabellaScott · 18/05/2026 19:27

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 18/05/2026 19:05

Gulp.
I do like the caramel wafers.

I do hope that isnt performative.

Anyone taking the wafer should do so only when they truly believe in the holy terf doctrine of transinsubstantiation, lest they be cast oot.

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 18/05/2026 19:39

ArabellaScott · 18/05/2026 19:27

I do hope that isnt performative.

Anyone taking the wafer should do so only when they truly believe in the holy terf doctrine of transinsubstantiation, lest they be cast oot.

Amen, sister. Just don't make me go to Confession first; it could take a while.

ArabellaScott · 18/05/2026 20:02

<makes another note>

FlirtsWithRhinos · 18/05/2026 20:17

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 18/05/2026 16:48

I do not like Tunnocks tea cakes. There, I've said it. I feel better already

No one really likes Tunnocks tea cakes. It's all preference falsification driven by social conformity. It's like TWAW is for the Genderist lot, a test of faith and purity that everyone thinks everyone else believes so they nod and go along with it.

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 18/05/2026 20:24

FlirtsWithRhinos · 18/05/2026 20:17

No one really likes Tunnocks tea cakes. It's all preference falsification driven by social conformity. It's like TWAW is for the Genderist lot, a test of faith and purity that everyone thinks everyone else believes so they nod and go along with it.

So I'm Tunnock non-conforming. Do I get a flag?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/05/2026 00:46

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 17/05/2026 16:59

You are side-stepping the point I made. This was very clearly about the contrast between incontrovertible evidence of the cult-like behaviour of two authoritarian, minority groups in the UK vs the absence of such behaviour from the majority of the population, ie. gender critical / sex realists.

My post was in response to, and quoted, this post about detransitioner Philippa:

"On X, she recently retweeted Keen-Minshull’s statement, ‘Islam is incompatible with women’s rights’, and caused a stir while being photographed for this piece, when she announced she would be attending Tommy Robinson’s Unite The Kingdom rally in London.
So she joined another cult then"

Your pivot to a deep dive into the cause of the rise of fundamentalist Islam since the 1970s is a deliberate distraction from the point being made.

Your patronising dismissal of both the death-dealing Fatwas against Salman Rushdie and Lubna Zaidi and the appalling harassment of detransitioners as mere "anecdotes" demonstrates that you would do anything rather than confront actual evidence.

There has been no "trading of anecdotes" because there is no anecdotal evidence of similar cult-like behaviour by gender critical / sex realists.

Where I think the PP who I quoted is wrong is in conflating "charismatic leader" with "cult leader". The two are not synonymous.

It is also obvious that there does not need to be a "cult leader" for "cult-like behaviour" to be in evidence.

This article is a good explainer:

Cults Without Leaders: How Belief Systems Replace Thinking Under Identity Pressure, and Why Parts of the Modern Left Exhibit Cult Dynamics
Identity Pressure, Moral Absolutism, and the Erosion of Independent Judgment

One of the most effective defenses modern belief systems deploy is a misconception about what cults actually are.

When people hear the word cult, they picture a charismatic leader: a Jim Jones, a David Koresh, a guru standing on a stage issuing commands to followers who surrender their autonomy. So when accusations of cultish behavior arise in modern political or cultural movements, the response is immediate:

“Where’s the leader?”“Who’s the cult figure?”“That can’t be a cult — no one is in charge.”

This objection sounds reasonable. It is also outdated.

Modern cults rarely look like the caricatures people expect. In fact, the absence of a single charismatic leader is not evidence against cultish behavior — it is often evidence of its evolution.

To understand why, we need to stop defining cults by personalities and start defining them by function.

What a Cult Is — Functionally

At its core, a cult is not defined by robes, compounds, or leaders. It is defined by how belief operates inside a group.

Functionally, a cult exists when:

  • Identity replaces evidence
  • Belief becomes a moral obligation
  • Doubt is treated as betrayal
  • Repetition substitutes for verification
  • Group belonging outweighs factual coherence
In other words, cults are not primarily about who is followed. They are about how beliefs are maintained and enforced.

Once belief becomes an identity signal rather than a truth-seeking process, cult dynamics are already present — regardless of leadership structure.

The Charismatic Leader Fallacy

The fixation on charismatic leaders is a relic of earlier eras. Traditional cults required a central authority because information flowed slowly and communication was limited. Control depended on physical proximity and hierarchical enforcement.

Modern belief systems operate differently.

Today, authority is distributed, not centralized. Media ecosystems, social platforms, and peer reinforcement replace the need for a single leader. Narratives propagate horizontally through repetition rather than vertically through command.

No one has to say, “Believe this.”Everyone simply repeats it.

The group itself becomes the authority.

This is why the question “Where is the leader?” misses the point. In modern cults, leadership is replaced by consensus pressure. The belief persists not because someone orders it to, but because rejecting it threatens social belonging.

Full article:
lucianseraphis.substack.com/p/cults-without-leaders-how-belief-6ca

Cancelling and doxxing are how the cult punishes and ostracises dissenters.

There are robes though: rainbow lanyards and other displayed symbols of adherence to the belief set.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/05/2026 00:48

AntiRacistFella · 18/05/2026 08:40

I will say what I think here - the GC movement should cut off and disassociate those who want to ally with far-right groups and individuals

That would probably actually benefit the GC cause politically against the people you call 'TRAs' and others who you no doubt think of as fellow travellers.

But I'm saying this because in the bigger picture it's the morally right thing to do

Right wing women are women.

You've got some nerve to, as a man, come onto a women's rights board and tell women who we should censure. Male entitlement writ large again.

Paramaribo2025 · 19/05/2026 01:21

Oh well.
Never mind.

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