Cambridge university debate

[WarriorN]

I’ve just started to watch; Buck Angel opening, which was never something I thought I’d see at Cambridge University - but this is how the de programming begins.

https://www.youtube.com/live/wE0JY9d7f-w?si=R65X7xp-ohfHJg2x

I agree that in the form of the debate it was extremely good to start with Buck, and the points she made.

Marcel was on fire and clearly utterly fucked off to high heaven.

Webberly apologising to everyone 🎻

Marvel was brilliant.
Webberley was sweaty and incoherent.

Maeve!!

Thank you for the link. I saw Maeve on X earlier / deeply impressive young woman.

horrible day with Jason tickle & Aussie HRC shitting all over women. Feeling a bit glum. I’m making a negroni & will watch the whole debate now. 💜

I watched the Maeve speech - she’s an impressive speaker for sure

What was the outcome? (Who won the cheesecake ?)

Both these young women remind me of Germain Greer.

re Webberly:

Wasn't that one of the three young women who started the CU Society of Women, Serena? She was very good!

Maeve was an incredible speaker and I really loved her plea for others to "be brave" at the end.

When the three speakers opposing Maeve's side spoke I found myself grumbling corrections at the screen a lot.

Webberly is as always an irritant. Men and boys talked about as though they were women and girls, heterosexual relationships described as same sex relationships, suicide myth repeated and a bit of self aggrandising with the whole bit about people telling her she's saved their life or the life of the child under her "care".
I don't actually see the point in inviting her, she didn't seem to have much of substance to talk about did she?

I did snort with laughter when Webberly was called a grifter by an audience member who said he used to work for her 😂

I thought Maeve Halligan spoke SO well. It felt as though she'd been forget out of pure steel in the hatred she has suffered. And the points she made were so powerful - especially about the impact on children. And the intervention from Serena ( Newnham) around 1 1/4 hours in about the pressure on young lesbians, the cotton ceiling (yuk) and the claim that they are bigoted if they don't want to have sex with men. It's pretty shocking that gender ideology is so embedded.

Thanks for posting. Interesting all round.

This was my first look at webberly other than the ra ra skirts clip. She seems to me a deeply fucked up troubled (yet oblivious to/in denial of it, therefore troublesome) individual. Wears her sex unnaturally like it's a fancy dress costume of conscious choice. Guess that's how she relates to some of her clients. This 'woman-by-numbers' hints at nd. Also the repeated 'no thank you' seems a good Nd friendly trick to keep things predictable and manageable (unless she's just 'no debate'-ing). Perhaps she's in the Narnia of the autistic closet? *
*I'm Nd myself and not blaming potential autism for this woman's ills, also am struggling to tone check and edit this before Christmas as am tired but wondered if anyone shared this view? Probably on a thread I missed :)

I've listened to the archers for at least 24 years (uncommon habit to pick up at uni I guess!) and I don't recall a trans story

Webberley is unhinged. I'd say personality disordered. No idea re NDness.

Helium?

Maybe it was really Hayley Cropper that floated her boat, but the Archers sounds better at Cambridge.

I think the same.

I'm sure in years to come there will be some fascinating studies done on people like her during this time.

Maeve Halligan is a most impressive speaker. Great to see Helen Joyce sitting behind her.

I’ve just written on another thread that Maeve was on Rachel Johnson’s radio show earlier this evening on LBC and she stopped me in my tracks, fabulous!!!

The archers transing a Cambridge University student is peak middle class transing.

Gosh how proud would you be if you were Maeve’s mother?! She was just so amazing. I felt utterly ashamed of myself for all the bloody EDI training I’ve sat through not daring to say what I really think

Thank you for posting this.

no I read her as a greedy woman who is out of her depth. She’s rehearsed her arguments and can’t debate beyond. The no thankyous were nervous at times, but also pompous. Her arguments are emotionally manipulative. She sprinkles some science in to distract and leans into “I’m a dr.”

it’s a full play book of tactics that fool an audience into thinking they are listening to facts when they’re actually being manipulated.

Webberly refused 12 interjections https://x.com/buckangel/status/2055352171181281380?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Does anyone know what the vote on the motion was?

Do they do a before and after the debate vote?

On the Rachel Johnson radio interview Maeve said they lost on the Yes or No answer, but there was an abnormally high number of abstentions.

Perhaps indicating people thinking more about the issue rather than just following blindly.

The short piece can be listened to again on LBC catchup- Rachel Johnson yesterday evening around 1.32 hours in.

edited for typo