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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Burnham - does he know what a woman is?

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Dragonasaurus · 14/05/2026 20:49

Just that really - we’ve had Starmer prevaricating, fence sitting, “most women don’t have a penis” in fact women don’t have a penis’ but somehow I’m going to let Phillipson sit on the guidance which would ensure women’s single sex spaces (some of them anyway)…..

Would Burnham be any better? Does anyone know what his position is?

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EasternStandard · 24/06/2026 10:32

I haven’t rtft but this is really bad

The vote on pb trials yesterday. Awful adults not caring for dc.

During this vote, party lines were largely maintained. Labour MPs voted down the motion to scrap the trial, while the Conservative party and several independent MPs pushed for its outright cancellation

EasternStandard · 24/06/2026 10:43

1984Now · 24/06/2026 10:18

Anyone rebind us what Lucy Powell shouted when put on the spot about non action on the grooming gangs?
Her response then should bar her from any serious office.
Yet, here we are, she's going to be rewarded with a major office by Burnham.

That political rhetoric has just meant Starmer lost his job. Which is great, perhaps the others will rein it in.

1984Now · 24/06/2026 11:01

EasternStandard · 24/06/2026 10:43

That political rhetoric has just meant Starmer lost his job. Which is great, perhaps the others will rein it in.

There was hope on this forum in the years before 2024 GE that Starmer would rein it in. If he has, it's only because he and his progressive cohort were almost daily shown up by the likes of JKR, Janice Turner, Sonia Sodha etc.
Every step of the way, Starmer and the party at large obfuscated and deflected, until they could do so no longer.
Hence we now have the official advice on SC ruling.
But for every "victory" there are two defeats...the PB trial still going ahead, new legislation on conversion therapy.
And now we see likely PM Burnham chief of staff will be none other than James Purnell, trans ideologue effectively who oversaw pronouns policy at the BBC.
You need eyes in the back of your head with this network of left activism/policy wonks.

1984Now · 24/06/2026 11:06

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/06/2026 10:32

She called it a far right dogwhistle.

She did indeed. I remember it well. Remember, when politicians claim they care about the people, instead so many care purely about their side, their way of doing politics.
Her palpable anger, not over the crimes, but that her side, her politics, was being implicated in scandal, was really instructive in seeing into what makes these people tick.
These "draw the curtains back" moments are rare, and so striking when you experience them.

EasternStandard · 24/06/2026 11:11

1984Now · 24/06/2026 11:01

There was hope on this forum in the years before 2024 GE that Starmer would rein it in. If he has, it's only because he and his progressive cohort were almost daily shown up by the likes of JKR, Janice Turner, Sonia Sodha etc.
Every step of the way, Starmer and the party at large obfuscated and deflected, until they could do so no longer.
Hence we now have the official advice on SC ruling.
But for every "victory" there are two defeats...the PB trial still going ahead, new legislation on conversion therapy.
And now we see likely PM Burnham chief of staff will be none other than James Purnell, trans ideologue effectively who oversaw pronouns policy at the BBC.
You need eyes in the back of your head with this network of left activism/policy wonks.

Edited

Ik Labour are annoying on this. I prefer Kemi’s clarity.

DrBlackbird · 24/06/2026 11:12

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 24/06/2026 09:45

https://www.compassonline.org.uk/about/governancefinance/board-members/
Compass Board Members

Neal Lawson

I’ve been the chief strategist, speaker and fundraiser for Compass for 15 years. We have done okay, but we now need to do much, so much better. Compass now needs to be a sustainable and powerful organisation in its own right – beyond any particular individual. [my bold]
Due for reappointment November 2028.

Ruth Lister, Labour Peer
Due for reappointment November 2028

Mark Cooke
He has been Treasurer and a member of the governing body of Compass since it began, developing its systems as it has grown, and working to keep it solvent. He is also Treasurer of the Child Poverty Action Group and of the Harington Scheme, a local charity providing education and training for young people with learning differences, as well as his local Labour Party branch.
Due for reappointment November 2028

Shelagh Wright
I’m a committed internationalist working with networks all over the world to develop the capacity and connectivity of creative and cultural activists to change systems at the individual, local, community or city level.
There’s a need to radically democratise and feminise political space as key to transformation by bringing ‘other’ voices into the debate; etc.
Due for reappointment November 2026.

Barry Knight
Barry Knight is a social scientist and statistician who, over a long career, has worked in many fields both in the UK and internationally....Frustrated by the limited potential for social change offered by mainstream institutions, Barry and others formed CENTRIS, which seeks solutions to old problems in new ways.
Over the past 20 years, CENTRIS has worked closely with more than 50 different funders and development agencies.
Due for reappointment November 2026.

Sarri Bater
Sarri has spent nearly 30 years as a scholar-practitioner in Conflict Transformation....Sarri specialises in ‘identity and difference’ conflict and is increasingly in demand to lead work on Systemic Anti-Racism, Diversity, Equity and Inclusion and Decolonising, in institutions, organisations, communities and movements, including local government bodies, philanthropists, activists, and change leaders.
Due for reappointment November 2028.

Jon Cruddas
Jon Cruddas was the Labour Member of Parliament for the constituency of Dagenham and Rainham from May 2001 until July 2024.
Due for reappointment November 2026.

John Jackson

John Jackson is a strategy consultant with twenty years experience of developing and running major international campaigns....John has been a strategy consultant since 2014, providing campaigns and communications support to public and voluntary sector organisations. His clients have included Amnesty, Shelter, WWF, the GLA, City Bridge Foundation and Global Witness.
Due for reappointment November 2028.

Pablo John
Pablo is Head of External Affairs for a green energy trade body where he specalises in heat networks, heat decarbonisation and demand-side energy. He works to deliver an energy system that is decarbonised, consumer led and decentralised. Before then he had worked in various policy roles across renewable energy, air quality and clean technology. He had also worked for Alex Sobel MP.
Due for reappointment November 2028.

Jon Yeung
Jon is an experienced Non Executive Director and Board adviser in the corporate and not for profit sectors. In his business career Jon qualified as a Chartered Accountant and subsequently held leadership positions in Life Sciences and Professional Services based in the UK and the US. As a member of Compass Jon has worked on a number of campaigns and publications, including the 2024 General Election and the New Settlement paper.
Due for reappointment November 2028.

I'll leave this here for now, as Compass seems now to be linked to Burnham, but if the info grows or starts to derail the thread, I'll set up a new Compass thread.

So mostly men then. Colour me surprised.

1984Now · 24/06/2026 11:14

EasternStandard · 24/06/2026 11:11

Ik Labour are annoying on this. I prefer Kemi’s clarity.

Yet all we're told daily is that Kemi is a culture warrior, and that culture wars don't matter, are counterproductive.
Too bad the liberal left decided to stoke this culture war for over two decades now (when did the GRA come in? 2004?).

DrBlackbird · 24/06/2026 11:22

Take this with a pinch of salt, if you like, but this piece is suggesting that chancellor, home secretary, foreign secretary and defence, are going to be given to women, to balance out that the fact that the Labour Party is going to be led, as always, by a white male:

If true, this is sly politics imo. Going to give cabinet positions on pretence of ‘balance’ whilst sidelining any talented men who might challenge him and simultaneously surrounding himself with incompetent fawning handmaidens. Behind the scenes will be where the real (male) decision makers can be found eg compass. Sounds more and more like a Johnson premiership.

Bond markets liked Reeves (can’t say I did), so it’ll be interesting to see market reaction to next chancellor. We’re living in a rentier economy now so it seems fairly assured there will be more taxes one way or another. Middle classes who took govt advice and saved hit hardest?

moto748e · 24/06/2026 11:27

..Sarri specialises in ‘identity and difference’ conflict and is increasingly in demand to lead work on Systemic Anti-Racism, Diversity, Equity and Inclusion and Decolonising, in institutions, organisations, communities and movements, including local government bodies, philanthropists, activists, and change leaders.

Anyone else read that and think, well, you can fuck right off with that?

EasternStandard · 24/06/2026 11:29

1984Now · 24/06/2026 11:14

Yet all we're told daily is that Kemi is a culture warrior, and that culture wars don't matter, are counterproductive.
Too bad the liberal left decided to stoke this culture war for over two decades now (when did the GRA come in? 2004?).

Yep 2004. This is on them. And that culture wars line, what nonsense. I’m so glad the person who used it to get in has been ousted. So pleased.

DrBlackbird · 24/06/2026 11:38

moto748e · 24/06/2026 11:27

..Sarri specialises in ‘identity and difference’ conflict and is increasingly in demand to lead work on Systemic Anti-Racism, Diversity, Equity and Inclusion and Decolonising, in institutions, organisations, communities and movements, including local government bodies, philanthropists, activists, and change leaders.

Anyone else read that and think, well, you can fuck right off with that?

It’s another example of what ought to have been good work towards building a society with less racism and more tolerance but which has become virtue spirals, authoritarian demands, micro aggressions and paradoxically less tolerance and greater divisions. Different groups in power, same tactics.

1984Now · 24/06/2026 12:52

DrBlackbird · 24/06/2026 11:38

It’s another example of what ought to have been good work towards building a society with less racism and more tolerance but which has become virtue spirals, authoritarian demands, micro aggressions and paradoxically less tolerance and greater divisions. Different groups in power, same tactics.

Conflict "resolution" with these people is everyone "resolving" to think the same way. One way only.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 24/06/2026 13:12

1984Now · 24/06/2026 12:52

Conflict "resolution" with these people is everyone "resolving" to think the same way. One way only.

I think the word you're looking for is "forced" actually!
ps. But I see what you did there 😀

1984Now · 24/06/2026 13:24

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 24/06/2026 13:12

I think the word you're looking for is "forced" actually!
ps. But I see what you did there 😀

Edited

You make a good point. These people don't use language the way we do.
Women's spaces resolved so that transwomen can use them is the same as women being forced to accept men in their spaces.
You see, change the language from women "forced" (coerced, obligated etc) to spaces "resolved", and the problem is "mitigated", or in our language, "ramped up".

DrBlackbird · 24/06/2026 14:06

Kemi was quite funny in PMQ…Burnham is little more than "a pair of eyelashes and a black T-shirt".

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 24/06/2026 14:15

To be fair, he does have very nice eyelashes! I don't think I want Pretty Eyelashes running the country, though I don't suppose we have any choice at this point.

EasternStandard · 24/06/2026 14:15

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 24/06/2026 13:12

I think the word you're looking for is "forced" actually!
ps. But I see what you did there 😀

Edited

I appreciate your u/n and I’m guessing she’s for the chop soon going by the NEU’s press release.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 24/06/2026 14:19

EasternStandard · 24/06/2026 14:15

I appreciate your u/n and I’m guessing she’s for the chop soon going by the NEU’s press release.

Sorry, don't quite catch your drift there? Can you elaborate please?

EasternStandard · 24/06/2026 14:31

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 24/06/2026 14:19

Sorry, don't quite catch your drift there? Can you elaborate please?

I was just reading a press release from the NEU calling for your username name sake to go. I think she will be up for the chop soon.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/06/2026 14:37

DrBlackbird · 24/06/2026 14:06

Kemi was quite funny in PMQ…Burnham is little more than "a pair of eyelashes and a black T-shirt".

🤣

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/06/2026 14:38

I think she’ll have fun with him.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 24/06/2026 14:40

EasternStandard · 24/06/2026 14:31

I was just reading a press release from the NEU calling for your username name sake to go. I think she will be up for the chop soon.

Ah, hadn't seen that!

1984Now · 24/06/2026 15:00

My wife, who's as generally small c conservative/apolitical as it gets, looks at Burnham and this rushed procedure to get him in, looks at him and his black T-shirt and jeans, and says "ho hum, we really want a -bloke- in charge, he's getting the job because he's a -bloke-?"
I don't think she just means male, she means this procured man of the people schtick.
It's so empty, as if Burnham was the perfect combination of Blair meta politics expertise, Johnson appeal across the classes, Corbyn burning principle against injustices.
In truth, he's a guy who was invisible in govt and shadow govt, has no ideas except for how to run the buses on time.
Or maybe that's how far we've fallen as a country, that we're desperate for anyone with the most basic skills like bus timetables to save us from the uselessness of the last half dozen useless occupants of Number Ten.

moto748e · 24/06/2026 15:06

Anyway, this personalisation of politics is daft. I'm sure Burnham himself didn't pore over all the details of Manchester's bus service, any more than Boris personally designed Boris Bikes. Which in itself is not a criticism of either of them.

ScrollingLeaves · 24/06/2026 15:12

moto748e · 24/06/2026 11:27

..Sarri specialises in ‘identity and difference’ conflict and is increasingly in demand to lead work on Systemic Anti-Racism, Diversity, Equity and Inclusion and Decolonising, in institutions, organisations, communities and movements, including local government bodies, philanthropists, activists, and change leaders.

Anyone else read that and think, well, you can fuck right off with that?

Yes that is what I think, for one.