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Home of self-professed "poster boy for gay surrogacy" Barrie Drewitt-Barlow raided by police due to allegations of rape and human trafficking for sexual exploitation

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ThisZanySeal · 07/05/2026 16:01

Another surrogacy adjacent news item. The Daily Mail and other outlets are reporting that:

"The home of reality TV star and Britain's first openly gay football club owner Barrie Drewitt-Barlow has been raided by police as part of an investigation into alleged human trafficking for sexual exploitation and rape...Essex Police later confirmed that two men - aged 57 and 32 - were arrested on suspicion of rape, human trafficking for sexual exploitation and administering a noxious substance."

The Family Education Trust summary on X gives the best overview on Barrie's activities over the preceding decades. Text copied for those who don't use X:

"Barrie Drewitt-Barlow, was the first gay man in the UK to buy a child through surrogacy along with his then-partner Tony in 1999 when they paid a woman in California to carry twins.

The pair went to court to be allowed to have same-sex parents on the birth certificates as “parent one” and “parent two” instead of “mother and father”.
He’s now being investigated over alleged human trafficking for sexual exploitation and rape.

Barrie and Tony were interviewed by Stacey Dooley to promote surrogacy. Notice she only asks how surrogacy affects the ‘carrier’, without questioning if it’s in the baby’s best interests to be separated from the mother at birth and sold to two men.

In 2018, their 18 year old daughter Saffron announced that she wanted twins via a surrogate and would donate any 'spare' embryos to her fathers, who were ‘desperate for more children’. They already had 5 children all born to surrogate mothers.

In 2020, Barrie split up with Tony and got together with his daughter Saffron’s 25 year old ex-boyfriend. They then announced they were ‘expecting triplets’ via another surrogate after interviewing 15 egg donors.

Drewitt-Barlow now has eight children by surrogacy. He admitted on Dooley’s documentary to paying a model £50k to carry a child because “Nobody wants an ugly kid”, glossing over the serious health risks of egg donation.

Ban surrogacy!"

Barrie and Tony set up The British Surrogacy Centre back in 2011.

I personally have a memory of one of them (I think it was Barrie) in one of the documentaries about their journey to become fathers via surrogacy for a second time, where he made gagging noises when discussion came up about whether their surrogate would give birth vaginally. He couldn't hold back his revulsion about the female form even in front of the cameras. I was quite young back when I saw that documentary but it has stuck in my head ever since.

Barrie Drewitt-Barlow's home raided as police probe human trafficking

Police officers are understood to have forced entry into the Essex property owned by Drewitt-Barlow on Wednesday morning by knocking through a wooden fence.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15796431/Barrie-Drewitt-Barlows-home-raided-police-probe-human-trafficking.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_mailonline

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 07/05/2026 16:17

Depraved and generational too. 🤮

1984Now · 07/05/2026 16:20

...got together with his daughter's ex...
That brought a little sick up into my mouth.

happydappy2 · 07/05/2026 16:40

There is something extremely dysfunctional about this man. I watched that documentary and was horrified this was allowed to happen

guinnessguzzler · 07/05/2026 16:46

Bloody hell! I remember when they got the twins back in 1999. He clearly has major issues, that is all just horrendous.

1984Now · 07/05/2026 16:53

Men have some very base instincts, and not enough face up to them, let alone try to change themselves. And then in this case, medical developments, libertarian consumer choice, and a voyeuristic rewarding media feeds into extremely dark practices.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 07/05/2026 16:55

Hiding in plain sight

MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/05/2026 17:09

Obviously innocent until proven guilty.
However, people have been pointing out the dangers for some time of creating a "sacred caste" who may never be challenged. Especially when powerful Labour men with political influence say the quiet bit out loud and define safeguarding in schools as "right wing bigotry" :

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4954762-pushing-back-against-safeguarding

Transgender Trend did a blog last year summarising many of the recent convictions following the child rape conviction for the founder of Surrey Pride - Stephen Ireland.

https://www.transgendertrend.com/lgbtq-pride-safeguarding-scandal/

Many lesbians and gay men have been raising concerns about this for ages. There are some grim links in the blog so please be warned

The LGBTQ+ safeguarding scandal hiding in plain sight - Transgender Trend

LGBTQ+ has become a protected group within society, with endorsement from the police. Predators can hide within a group that escapes scrutiny

https://www.transgendertrend.com/lgbtq-pride-safeguarding-scandal/

MohavePenstemon · 07/05/2026 17:16

Here in the US there have been a few recent high-profile cases of human trafficking by way of illegal surrogacy, some of them involving minors. And this is messed up, but I heard of more than one time when a mom and stepdad would have the daughter (a minor) carry the stepdad's baby as a "consensual surrogate." There were times when it was supposed to have been done with a turkey baster, but everyone assumes it was the old fashioned way.

People argue for legal surrogacy as harm reduction, bringing up cases like that, but I don't think this is a chicken and the egg argument. Illegal surrogacy doesn't occur when legal roads are too costly or obscured by beurocratic red tape, it's that the legality of surrogacy has emboldened people and made them feel entitled to something decent people find immoral.

ThisZanySeal · 07/05/2026 18:54

Julie Bindel interviewed him and has posted:

"First time I interviewed the hideous Barry Drewitt-Barlow, in 2010, he told me he commands the "surrogates" having "his" children to have C-sections, because he found it "repulsive" to think of the babies coming out of a vagina."

So I think I didn't imagine him gagging about the possibility of a vaginal delivery on camera.

Julie's full article about surrogacy, and Barrie and Tony is here.

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AccordingToWhom · 07/05/2026 19:36

Look at this 'interesting' connection (this is when he was threatening to go to Caroline Farrow's husband's church).

Home of self-professed "poster boy for gay surrogacy" Barrie Drewitt-Barlow raided by police due to allegations of rape and human trafficking for sexual exploitation
Feejoah · 07/05/2026 20:16

I remember watching the documentary as a younger 'un and being disturbed by it.

After I had my first child, I thought long and hard about offering to be a surrogate for a relative. After I had my second child I realised I didn't want to put myself through that risk for someone else, as much as I wanted to help them have a family. This family member did eventually ask if I would be their surrogate. I had to tell them how ill I was in pregnancy and of the complications of one of the births, and there was no way I was going to disable myself and not be able to take care of my own family in order to go through another pregnancy.

Bertiebiscuit · 07/05/2026 21:55

Evil deviant hypocrites both of them 😈😈

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/05/2026 22:12

Very disturbing indeed. Here's Julie Bindel from X reposting what she wrote about this 16 years ago. Yes, sixteen years. That's how long people have been desperately trying not to notice there are troubling ethical issues here.

I wrote this, about the Drewitt-Barlows and their vile surrogacy racket, in 2010: Barrie Drewitt-Barlow is passionate about fatherhood and speaks lovingly of his five children. But he is no ordinary dad. Barrie and his partner of 11 years, Tony, were determined to start a family despite the obvious difficulties. The couple, both wealthy businessmen, realised their dream ten years ago with the birth of twins Aspen and Saffron. The babies were a product of the sperm of both men, an egg donor and a surrogate mother. Since then, the Drewitt-Barlows (the men merged both of their second names) have added another three children to their brood and have spent at least £700,000 doing so. The couple has pioneered a growing and ethically questionable trend among gay men and lesbians — using surrogates and other fertility procedures to produce designer babies. Today, the "Gaybe" revolution is booming. Although surrogacy and related fertility services are still accessed mainly by heterosexual couples, gay men are increasingly demanding equity. Known by some critics as "reproductive trafficking", surrogacy is an ethical minefield. Heterosexuals will use their own eggs and sperm but will rent a womb for the gestation, whereas gay men will need to use in vitro fertilisation (IVF) and the eggs from a donor in order to impregnate the surrogate. Prior to the Drewitt-Barlows' pioneering act, gay men accepted that having their own children as couples was impossible. In the past, lesbian couples would decide which one would carry the child and then ask a male friend to donate sperm and then self-inseminate. Today, they are more likely to use one of Britain's commercial sperm banks. While children's homes are full to bursting with abused, neglected and unwanted children, increasing numbers of lesbians and gay men are making their own, often spending huge amounts of money in order to conceive. IVF was developed in the 1970s as a response to infertility, with the first so-called test-tube baby being born in 1978. None of the major religions had, in 1978, an official policy on artificial insemination but the Roman Catholic Church raised the strongest objections at the time. There is no law to prevent surrogacy in Britain but it is illegal for surrogates to advertise as they do in the US. The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority, which regulates infertility and IVF clinics in Britain, says that any offer of such treatment using a surrogate mother would be governed by strict guidelines. I ask Barrie what gave him and Tony the idea to have babies using surrogacy. "We just wanted a child back then and if we could have, we would have fostered or adopted," says Barrie. "Lesbians have proved for years that kids of same-sex couples can grow up fine, but we still get prejudice. Lots of people think we must be a couple of paedophiles." To create Saffron and Aspen, both men's sperm was extracted and separated so that Tony would father the male children and Barrie the females. These samples were mixed with the egg donor's eggs to form embryos. Two embryos were implanted into the surrogate resulting in twins. Four years later, the men decided to have another child and defrosted the last surviving original embryo. This was implanted in a different surrogate resulting in Orlando. But this embryo had originally split from Aspen's, which means that Aspen and Orlando are biological twins despite the age gap and share exactly the same DNA. With no embryos left, and the original egg donor being considered too old to donate, the couple chose a 25-year-old model as a replacement from the catalogue supplied by the surrogacy service. They decided that this time they did not mind who was the biological father and both gave sperm samples. Two embryos were implanted in the same surrogate they had used to carry Orlando. After their first set of twins was born, the Drewitt-Barlows successfully challenged the American authorities to become the first gay couple to have both their names on their children's birth certificates. "People said to us we should just accept the fact that it is unnatural for two men to have kids, but neither is growing a new liver, so we refused to give up. And why shouldn't we have our own children?" Barrie is clear, however, that having the children and challenging the law was not something they did for gay emancipation, but was a "completely selfish desire to be parents". To find the egg donors, the couple spent hours looking through catalogues, commenting on their appearances in a way not dissimilar to choosing a new set of curtains. Did they consider adopting children once the law changed to allow gay men to do so? "It's a bit like giving blood. I won't do it now because it used to be rejected [as a result of the assumption that gay men were more likely to be infected with HIV than heterosexuals]," says Barrie. "I would cut my nose off to spite my face and now that we can adopt I won't do it." But Andrea Woelke, a solicitor at Alternative Family Law, a firm that offers advice to gay and lesbian couples using IVF and surrogacy, says that many of the gay men he advises choose not to adopt. "Often my clients have considered adoption and fostering," says Woelke, "but the process is such an intrusive and long-winded one and if the children come to them aged three or older they can have problems." Woelke says that he is noticing an increased number of gay men inquiring about surrogacy. "Lots more lesbian and gay couples are wanting children as it becomes increasingly acceptable. If you are choosing an egg donor then it is inevitable that you would start to consider the type of looks and character traits and abilities you would like your child to have. It is a built-in perk." Class and racial divisions between surrogates, egg donors and the intended parents are stark. Surrogates tend to be working-class and have already had their own children, whereas the egg donor is likely to be a college student from a wealthy background who is considered bright and attractive. They earn more than the surrogates. In the US, the price of embryos is approximately $20,000. In 2007, The Fertility Institutes in Los Angeles announced that, due to popular demand, it would be running a programme aimed at providing surrogacy services to gay men. It immediately began to receive numerous inquires from male couples in Britain. The programme is the first specialist surrogacy scheme dedicated to "two-father" families. The men are able to choose whether to have boys or girls, with three-quarters so far opting for male babies. I spoke to one surrogate in the US, a 35-year-old housewife who asked not to be named because, she said, her parents would be "horrified" if they knew she made money from giving birth. "I was approached by a gay male couple last year who told me I was perfect for them because I had wide hips, like a brood-mare. I am now seven months pregnant and they come with me to every appointment and talk to my doctors on a regular basis. It is their baby. I have to follow their rules about what I eat and drink and how I look after myself." Making babies the lesbian way has also become increasingly commercialised. Baby on Safari, set up seven years ago in Durban, South Africa, is part of the growing "Gaybe" revolution. It caters for overseas lesbian and gay couples who cannot "get a baby" in their own countries. "Lesbians travel here from Australia, America and the UK," the woman who runs the service told me. "For them, even with the air fare and other expenses, it is still cheaper to get fertility treatment here than back home." BoS offers IVF treatment and has its own sperm bank. Men are catered for, too. If they want a baby, BoS will assist, so long as they bring their own eggs and surrogate mother to the clinic. "Lesbians want their own babies, and are thinking, ‘I can, therefore I want to.'" Kate and Lisa (not their real names) decided to start a family three years ago and signed up to a commercial donor company. Both white, they decided that it would be "ethically questionable" for them to request a donor of the same race and Lisa became pregnant with the sperm of a man of African origin. "I thought it may be racist in a way to exclude the possibility of a mixed-race child," says Kate. "After all, if I had met a black man and fallen in love I would have had dual-heritage children with him." But having a black child in an all-white household is entirely different from one with one black parent. Did they not consider this? "We know people from every ethnic background, more or less, and we talked about how our baby would have black and white positive role models." Talking to both women gives me the impression that they chose a black donor for aesthetic reasons as much as their commitment to anti-racism. "Our child is beautiful," says Lisa. "She has the most gorgeous curly hair and beautiful skin." The UK's first fertility organisation to accept gay donors is Man Not Included (MNI), established in 2002. It advertises itself as the "world's only confidential and anonymous sperm donation service". Its opening paragraph reads like a human rights mantra, rather than a plug for a commercial service. "http://Mannotincluded.com believe that it is every woman's right to have children if they so wish and that is why we [are] open to any woman, be she single, lesbian or married." Founder John Gonzales said: "A few years ago, we would have struggled to get such good business, but today, it is totally accepted that lesbians should be able to have children if they wish." MNI is no longer trading but there are scores of other similar services based in the UK and US catering specifically for lesbians. A number of websites give hugely detailed profiles of the donors, including all physical and intellectual profiles, hobbies and personality traits. While some lesbians and gay men are spending a fortune trying to bring another baby into the world, it costs an estimated £700 a week to keep one child in care. Although many heterosexual men and women will choose a spouse on the basis of the sort of looks and characteristics they wish any future children to inherit, "gaybe" boomers can shop around far more widely. Lesbian couple Sharon Duchesneau and Candy McCullough, both deaf since birth, made headlines in 2002 when they were turned down by a series of sperm banks they approached looking for a congenitally deaf donor. Refusing to give up, the couple then approached a family friend who had five generations of deafness in his family and was deaf himself and asked him to donate sperm. The result was a deaf baby. McCullough said in response to her critics at the time that choosing to have a deaf child was no different from choosing its sex. Much of the market is determined by race. Surrogates tend to be black or Asian and the donors white. India was recently named as the "rent-a-womb capital of the world" in a report on http://Slate.com. "Reproductive tourism" is now a half-a-billion-dollar a year industry, with 350 clinics offering surrogacy around the country. There it is barely regulated and cheap, costing just over $22,000 compared to around $100,000 in the US. For the desperately poor surrogates, bearing someone else's child is a better option than selling a kidney. Interestingly, the surrogates are almost exclusively Muslim, whereas the egg donors used by Asian couples (white intended parents will fly an egg donor of their choice to India for the procedure) are Hindu. Is it really acceptable that wombs are rented and eggs sold on the open market? Not according to the World Health Organisation, which takes a dim view of this commercialisation of childbirth, as do many children's charities. To date, the only criticism of the designer "gaybe" industry has come from those who believe that same-sex couples should not be allowed to bring up children. Those within the lesbian and gay communities seem to be largely uncritical of rich, white gays exploiting the bodies of poor, desperate women in the developing world, or adding to the "rent-a-womb" industry elsewhere. The reasons for same-sex couples opting for surrogacy and other fertility services are partly the culture of homophobic oppression and partly related to biological constraints. But the fact remains that such practices are becoming so normalised and available that we will soon forget that designer babies grow up to be questioning adults.
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Iamnotalemming · 07/05/2026 22:28

Ive not seen the documentary but that piece by JB is disturbing.

ThisZanySeal · 08/05/2026 09:39

The BBC have confirmed Barrie and Scott have both now been charged:

"The owners of a football club have been charged with multiple offences including rape, sexual assault, and modern slavery trafficking for sexual exploitation.

Barrie Drewitt-Barlow, 57, and his husband, Scott, 32, were arrested on Wednesday by Essex Police."

Barrie and Scott Drewitt-Barlow are holding the FA Cup - which is a silver trophy with red ribbons - on the pitch at Maldon and Tiptree FC. Behind them is a small blue stand. Barrie is wearing a black shirt and a white blazer. Scott is wearing a checke...

Drewitt-Barlows of Maldon and Triptree charged with trafficking

Barrie Drewitt-Barlow and husband Scott are accused of sexual exploitation and rape.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g09pdx82go

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guinnessguzzler · 08/05/2026 11:52

That is grim, just grim, I wonder how many children have been harmed? Awful.

ETA: I should have said, how many women and children have been harmed?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/05/2026 12:12

Given their sexuality, I think there has to be considerable concern that at least some of the victims were men.

More from Julie Bindel on this subject in attached screenshot, once it's cleared.

Home of self-professed "poster boy for gay surrogacy" Barrie Drewitt-Barlow raided by police due to allegations of rape and human trafficking for sexual exploitation
TheCheeseTax · 08/05/2026 12:19

Men, chipping away at millions of years' worth of boundaries built by time to separate women and children from men...calling us prudes and hysterical and bigots and right wing and stupid and crazy and and and...

Even the painting hanging up - it's not fucking right, it's not fucking normal and we ALL fucking know it.

I do not give one shit about being called a name, I will never allow men to reduce the boundary between us (or children) for as long as I live and I thank middle age for that.

hihelenhi · 08/05/2026 13:37

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/05/2026 12:12

Given their sexuality, I think there has to be considerable concern that at least some of the victims were men.

More from Julie Bindel on this subject in attached screenshot, once it's cleared.

Yes, I think this too. I heard a podcast about this that got posted on X the other day (think it was from a while back though) which was two gay guys interviewing another gay guy who'd been an unfortunate employee of the Drewitt-Barlows and frankly, couldn't get out there soon enough. Sounds like set up was weird and suss, very quickly employed and flown out to LA where he was in a position where he couldn't really leave, weird stuff with payment etc. (Echoes of Neil Gaiman type vibes of some of it. So I wouldn't be at all suprised if they weren't flying young, goodlooking gay men out there & abusing them a la that other Abercrombie & Fitch weirdo who was also done for similar, though I think those were under the guise of "modelling jobs").

The guy interviewed also said he was concerned for the kids' welfare, that Barrie in particular was violent & abusive ( not sexually) towards his daughter, Saffron, that the younger kids never went out and were all scared of him. Not sure if he had reported to the police but it was suggested he was doing so (didn't finish listening to it - had heard enough). So that's even before any other kinds of possible abuse, although frankly, that wouldn't surprise me either.

He did say that the supposed "daughter's boyfriend", the current partner now also arrested, was never with the daughter at all and was always gay & shagging Barrie from the off. From what else I've read Barrie seemed to have a lot of relationships quite openly, with multiple men, all of which should have flagged him up as being an inappropriately sexualised environment for kids to grow up in in any case, and it really wouldn't surprise me. He seems to have thought he was untouchable, and sadly, for many years, he clearly was. And being fawned over in the UK media for years.

Comefromaway · 08/05/2026 13:42

I knew he was a horrible person when his club played my team in a cup match last season. He made some horrible comments about our female owner. Something about him made my skin crawl.

But I didn't realise just how much of a sleazeball he was.

Glowingup · 08/05/2026 13:44

Yuck. I remember watching the show about his surrogacy clinic (I think his current husband Scott featured on that and looked like he was barely out of school). I always thought Barrie seemed like a rampant narcissist with a horrible temper so the claims of abuse don’t surprise me one bit. I thought his ex partner Tony seemed nicer and calmer whereas any tiny thing seemed to trigger Barrie to have a screaming fit at whichever poor person happened to be in the vicinity.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 08/05/2026 13:45

Just looking at him, he looks like a wrong'un and a misogynist

Same as that guy who's been imprisoned for rape, the owner of super dry

Glowingup · 08/05/2026 13:46

Comefromaway · 08/05/2026 13:42

I knew he was a horrible person when his club played my team in a cup match last season. He made some horrible comments about our female owner. Something about him made my skin crawl.

But I didn't realise just how much of a sleazeball he was.

He looks like he’s totally dead behind the eyes. A real sociopath. His poor daughter.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 08/05/2026 13:49

I remember seeing this guy parading his children on this morning on similar yearrrrs ago and thinking he was an absolute fucking creep and I'd have been a teen at best myself.

Colour me surprised that the kind of morally bankrupt man who thinks buying a baby is justttt fine turns out to be a horrible pervert not good person

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