How do we address men’s violence against women as an epidemic?

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It's not all men but it's always men and I'm fucking sick of it.

Yet another woman murdered by her ex who blew her (and himself) up with an explosive device.

I don't know what my point is really, just that I feel so sick and angry about this. The poor woman phoned 999 and, to be fair, it seems the police were on site within 5 minutes but he'd already killed her by then.

This is an epidemic but how do we address it?

Don't be dramatic in effort to join a pile on. How can women demonstrate intellect and solidarity when they put words in each others mouths and try to infight on a forum, FGS.

I stated that there are contributing factors, by bad parenting from women, which result in male violence. That does not mean it is causative or excludes the responsibility of parenting by men.

Strategies address issues and the implementation of those strategies can only work if they encompass all factors.

I am sensing a distinct lack of ability for intellectual discourse, thus far.

Advocate for sisterhood and not victimhood and we might actually be heard.

I'm absolutely not defending language that doesn't reflect the truth, I'm just wondering if they are being careful for the legalz.

You wouldn't want the men getting upset lest blame be rightly attributed in their direction

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Women are not the only parents though, are they? 50% of parents are men. How about we look at their parenting as well.

If you read my post, I addressed this already, which is great that we're on the same page.

Time to ignore the tedious derailer
A pity it happened on this of all threads

There have been some very intriguing studies by epidemiologists on violence and how it acts like an infectious disease. Someone exposed to violence is then likely to go on to be violent. Violence has a way of perpetuating and intensifying itself. It’s been studied at the household level, family level and even societal level where violence emerges as civil unrest, crime waves, and even bloody revolutions/terrorism.

Men tend to be exposed to more violence than women. Usually from other men.
Society also shuttles men into the jobs that require daily exposure to extreme violence- military, law enforcement, certain sports- which are positively linked with them being perpetrators of violence on their own families and friends.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/get-psyched/201705/how-violence-spreads-contagious-disease

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-31246-6_5

https://www.numberanalytics.com/blog/epidemiology-violence-chronic-disease-perspective

https://www.wlrn.org/npr-breaking-news/2026-03-30/can-war-be-treated-like-an-infectious-disease-this-expert-thinks-so

Fuck me. Russell Brand has arrived on the thread with his thesaurus…

Ah, the passive aggressive sign-off of a flouncer!

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It’s also so sad (but depressingly unsurprising) that the murdered woman had contacted the police about this man previously. Obviously I don’t know the facts but Avon and Somerset police have referred themselves to the Independent Office for Police Conduct “due to previous police contact with the victim prior to Sunday”. I would not be surprised at all if police failings contributed to this man going on to murder his ex when they had the opportunity to protect the woman from him.

Have you reported this? Have you encouraged their DHs to leave? Why do you believe the fact that people turn a blind eye is because they're women? People turn a blind eye to male violence all the time.

Regardless, I'm not sure what your comment has to do with the epidemic of male violence against women? It's a very odd response to make. Perhaps you should start your own thread to discuss female violence? It could be an interesting discussion.

They aren't learning the lessons at scale. And quickly enough.

There's another poor young woman in NI. Lost her life at the hands of someone with a prolific offending history as far as I could make out.

They need to take an epidemiological approach to the data, like a pp says. Law enforcement needs to be far more proactive. It's slow reactivity is costing lives.

When I heard about this on the news I knew it would be a man murdering a woman that he probably knew. It just did not occur to me that it was a woman murdering a man. It is truly sickening that men are killing women all the time and however long he is jailed for or if he kills himself, the woman can’t ever come back.

It's hard to know what on earth we can do about it. It's been a part of human society to some degree since society began, and it's difficult to figure out how to eliminate something that's so entrenched in humanity itself.

I think a good place to start would be banning and denormalising porn, and anything else that objectifies and dehumanises women and girls.

Probably with a bit of I told you so in their referral after all that police force has been repeatedly cut.

2023-2024 https://www.southgloslibdems.org.uk/news/news-article/avon-somerset-pcsos-bear-brunt-of-cuts-with-19-reduction-last-year.

2025 https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/police-cuts-leave-community-exposed-9908643

2026 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjrzwz0z184o.

Fewer police = more lives lost.

Look, I could explain but I'm going to let all of you co-mingle in your circular discussion which is clearly not geared towards problem solving.

Perhaps consider why so many people don't support "feminism" by reflecting on the responses of this thread.

All the best.

Yes this.

The victim in NI's murderer took his own life two days later I think.

Obviously in this man's case he died at the scene and must've known that would be so. And a child has been injured as well as two others.

The women can never be replaced.

''The women can never be replaced.''

It is so bleak.

What to do? Well. Men should solve their own problems - MVAWAG is only one, ofc - but as they won't because patriarchy, we wims will have to redouble our efforts around MVAWAG: calling-out, writing letters, getting MPs to LISTEN and importantly, ACT more, keep holding the police forces' feet to the fire.
A start, for sure.

We need more men who speak out like David Challen
More initiatives like White Ribbon

Jameela Jamil recently wrote something on Instagram which compared men’s silence on this issue to the silent complicity of Germans during the Holocaust. I hope it’s ok to post a screenshot here. It’s made me think a lot about how harmful looking the other way is and question why decent men don’t feel like this issue has anything to do with them.

Totally!! They know the causal links and there is no reason why they can’t start preventing through monitoring and dare I say put everyone coming in from a war zone whether a refugee or one of our soldiers through deradicalization, psych assessments, anger management for at least 20yrs.

Violence being an infection, for example, explains why even child refugees from war torn countries that grow up to be safe, secure adults in a peaceful country still go on to have a higher risk of violent offending than a child born and spending their whole life in a peaceful country.

It explains why veterans are at higher risk of being domestic abusers.

They have studied how even just witnessing violence rewires the brain, it physiologically changes a person and makes them more likely to become violent themselves.

Victims of violence need the same kind of psych assessments and monitoring, especially if they are male. Mild forms of violence between children- bullying- need to be taken much more seriously.

GinJarRogers That's unusually strong from her, fair play to her for speaking up. Thank you.

We need to:

1. Believe women and girls... no evidence needed just act on their words.
2. Restrict the freedom of men who commit minor acts of violence/bullying/harassment. Tags, curfews etc.
3. Longer sentences and chemical interventions for men who offend seriously.
4. Masculine strength should not be seen as a right but a responsibility. A legal framework to protect women and girls from men and boys.
5. Referrals from schools who see boys behaving poorly to act early (criminalize laddish behavior / banter / sexual harassment of girls at school) to make boys realize this is serious and important.