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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Nick Wallis wrote up of Graham Linehan’s retrial deserves its own thread as it’s so interesting. Also quite barking mad.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 01/05/2026 07:15

https://genderblog.net/glinner-rides-again/

I knew a lot of this but the machinations exposed clearly are fascinating.

(it’s probably been linked 20 pages deep in another thread but…)

Glinner Rides Again

or: Day 1 of Graham Linehan’s appeal against his conviction for criminal damage at Southwark Crown Court Another day, another London court – Graham Linehan on arrival this morning The first a…

https://genderblog.net/glinner-rides-again/

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Imnobody4 · 01/05/2026 18:34

Great news. Well done Graham and legal team.

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 19:10

impossibletoday · 01/05/2026 18:26

I never thought I'd be so admiring of a Conservative leader. It's just such a shame she's in charge at a time when they have no chance of getting into office for years.

Also, isn't there somethihng really odd about the fact that the Conservatives have had so many "firsts" without needing to make it all about DEI/affirmative action etc? For a long time we all just discounted Margaret Thatcher as being almost the exception that proved the rule, but that really can't be the case any more: not just Liz Truss and Theresa May, but also Rishi Sunak, and then a little lower in the hierarchy there's James Cleverly, Sajid Javid and Kwasi Kwarteng: And in fact it even goes way back to Gladstone, when having a Jewish PM was probably pretty shocking.

Labour only ever seem to name women or ethnic minorities as a "gift" to those groups, as if we're meant to be grateful to them for doing it. I'm beginning to wonder if I've been wrong all these years about who is actually most likely to help women and minorities to get on in life.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 01/05/2026 19:33

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 01/05/2026 18:28

If you drop it screen-down on cobbles or another convex surface, you'll smash the screen because the raised "lip" on the case cannot protect the screen from a convex surface. Guess how I know this...

I also found this out the hard way…

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 01/05/2026 19:34

Madcats · 01/05/2026 18:19

Apparently the shouting this morning was FT arguing with the security guard, who had just thrown him out. He was allowed back in just before lunch.

Oh my!! 🤭🤭

https://x.com/davecorviddave/status/2050257501375869111?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

The Nick Wallis wrote up of Graham Linehan’s retrial deserves its own thread as it’s so interesting. Also quite barking mad.
EmeraldRoulette · 01/05/2026 19:54

@Emilesgran "Labour only ever seem to name women or ethnic minorities as a "gift" to those groups, as if we're meant to be grateful to them for doing it. I'm beginning to wonder if I've been wrong all these years about who is actually most likely to help women and minorities to get on in life."

I mean this comment in a nice way because I know someone ( young) who would probably have thought the same before she met me

I think KB and I are probably on the same page in that we don't want or expect help getting on because we are female and minority. That's one of the reasons I like her so much. Let's get on with selecting people who can actually do the job at hand. You will find plenty of us women and ethnic minorities perfectly capable.

as you were...

CrystalSingerFan · 01/05/2026 20:00

@Emilesgran "it even goes way back to Gladstone, when having a Jewish PM was probably pretty shocking"

Possibly you mean Disraeli?

thirdfiddle · 01/05/2026 20:31

SB was his own worst enemy there, giving daft smart alec social media answers in a courtroom. Highlights for me (quoting Nick Wallis with thanks and a couple of beers heading his way):

SV: do you believe she lied about her assault
SB: as much as she believes I lied about my assault

SV: did you think he was going to be open to reason when you approached him a second time [...]
SB: people mellow out

SB: I don't think he knows he's divorced. [...]
SV: Are you saying he didn't know he was divorced
SB: no

What a numpty.
But as others have pointed out, it's really very concerning how young this kid was hanging around much older men. If there's grooming in the case SB is more likely the victim not the perpetrator.

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 20:34

CrystalSingerFan · 01/05/2026 20:00

@Emilesgran "it even goes way back to Gladstone, when having a Jewish PM was probably pretty shocking"

Possibly you mean Disraeli?

Yes sorry of course I meant Disraeli!
😚

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 20:41

EmeraldRoulette · 01/05/2026 19:54

@Emilesgran "Labour only ever seem to name women or ethnic minorities as a "gift" to those groups, as if we're meant to be grateful to them for doing it. I'm beginning to wonder if I've been wrong all these years about who is actually most likely to help women and minorities to get on in life."

I mean this comment in a nice way because I know someone ( young) who would probably have thought the same before she met me

I think KB and I are probably on the same page in that we don't want or expect help getting on because we are female and minority. That's one of the reasons I like her so much. Let's get on with selecting people who can actually do the job at hand. You will find plenty of us women and ethnic minorities perfectly capable.

as you were...

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Yes that's exactly my point - I've been wary about DEI quotas and so on for a long time, if only because they risk devaluing people's own qualities (eg we'll never know if Kamala Harris was genuinely competent or not, because the "narrative" is that she only got that far because she was ethnic minority and female, so any mistakes she made were put down to her being incompetent rather than just making mistakes and learning, like men can do).

So when all that DEI doesn't even lead to as many women and ethnic minorities getting the top spots anyway, compared to the Tories' "natural selection", you have to wonder whether it's all just a scam, including against women and ethnic minorities - the equivalent of greenwashing by big companies.

Instructions · 01/05/2026 20:45

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 01/05/2026 18:28

If you drop it screen-down on cobbles or another convex surface, you'll smash the screen because the raised "lip" on the case cannot protect the screen from a convex surface. Guess how I know this...

I have a 360 case because I learned about that the first time I got a smartphone! I am not kidding as to how clumsy I am; I walk into things all the time.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 01/05/2026 20:52

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 19:10

I never thought I'd be so admiring of a Conservative leader. It's just such a shame she's in charge at a time when they have no chance of getting into office for years.

Also, isn't there somethihng really odd about the fact that the Conservatives have had so many "firsts" without needing to make it all about DEI/affirmative action etc? For a long time we all just discounted Margaret Thatcher as being almost the exception that proved the rule, but that really can't be the case any more: not just Liz Truss and Theresa May, but also Rishi Sunak, and then a little lower in the hierarchy there's James Cleverly, Sajid Javid and Kwasi Kwarteng: And in fact it even goes way back to Gladstone, when having a Jewish PM was probably pretty shocking.

Labour only ever seem to name women or ethnic minorities as a "gift" to those groups, as if we're meant to be grateful to them for doing it. I'm beginning to wonder if I've been wrong all these years about who is actually most likely to help women and minorities to get on in life.

I think you will find the alliance of the three right wing leaning parties to be a lot closer than that.

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CrystalSingerFan · 01/05/2026 20:54

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 20:34

Yes sorry of course I meant Disraeli!
😚

The clue's in the name, obvs. Also, www.gov.uk tell me "He was the first and only Jewish Prime Minister to date." Sorry it's not helping the excellent thread, but given current events...

May I also recommend a visit to his home in Hughenden. NT.

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 21:00

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 01/05/2026 20:52

I think you will find the alliance of the three right wing leaning parties to be a lot closer than that.

To possibly get into power you mean?

It's certainly hard to fathom how Labour can have found themselves so under siege considering the size of their majority not two years ago. It takes a lot of bad luck and incompetence to manage that.

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 21:05

CrystalSingerFan · 01/05/2026 20:54

The clue's in the name, obvs. Also, www.gov.uk tell me "He was the first and only Jewish Prime Minister to date." Sorry it's not helping the excellent thread, but given current events...

May I also recommend a visit to his home in Hughenden. NT.

You'd think so, wouldn't you? Stupid of me!😌

(Can I ask what "Crystal singer" you're a fan of? Only I saw a fantastic American singer a couple of years ago called Crystal Thomas, so I wondered if it was her)

ETA: Also, let's pray that the next Jewish PM isn't already at the head of one of the existing UK parties....

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 01/05/2026 21:14

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 21:00

To possibly get into power you mean?

It's certainly hard to fathom how Labour can have found themselves so under siege considering the size of their majority not two years ago. It takes a lot of bad luck and incompetence to manage that.

The tories restore and reform are polling at over 50% combined. One thing the “right” can do that the left cannot is coalesce around a goal.

The left, however or should I call them the peoples front of Judea…..

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CrystalSingerFan · 01/05/2026 21:14

Emilesgran · 01/05/2026 21:05

You'd think so, wouldn't you? Stupid of me!😌

(Can I ask what "Crystal singer" you're a fan of? Only I saw a fantastic American singer a couple of years ago called Crystal Thomas, so I wondered if it was her)

ETA: Also, let's pray that the next Jewish PM isn't already at the head of one of the existing UK parties....

Edited

Yes to the ETA.

My name is because I'm a fan of this novel by Anne McCaffrey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrystalSinger It's aged well, from a feminist perspective. IMO.

BettyBooper · 01/05/2026 21:24

thirdfiddle · 01/05/2026 20:31

SB was his own worst enemy there, giving daft smart alec social media answers in a courtroom. Highlights for me (quoting Nick Wallis with thanks and a couple of beers heading his way):

SV: do you believe she lied about her assault
SB: as much as she believes I lied about my assault

SV: did you think he was going to be open to reason when you approached him a second time [...]
SB: people mellow out

SB: I don't think he knows he's divorced. [...]
SV: Are you saying he didn't know he was divorced
SB: no

What a numpty.
But as others have pointed out, it's really very concerning how young this kid was hanging around much older men. If there's grooming in the case SB is more likely the victim not the perpetrator.

Yeah, it's absolutely on purpose. It's so like County lines. LW will be well aware that using children as stooges is a way to circumvent the legal justice system.

The police are literally being played by an ex-one of their own and how they don't see it, I'm honestly gobsmacked.

BettyBooper · 01/05/2026 21:27

Given the amount of power LW seemingly has over the police, makes me wonder if he has something on someone at the top...

SidewaysOtter · 01/05/2026 21:27

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 01/05/2026 20:52

I think you will find the alliance of the three right wing leaning parties to be a lot closer than that.

The Left seem spectacularly - and some might say singularly - good at tearing themselves apart from the inside on the basis of ideological purity.

quantumbutterfly · 01/05/2026 21:39

CrystalSingerFan · 01/05/2026 21:14

Yes to the ETA.

My name is because I'm a fan of this novel by Anne McCaffrey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrystalSinger It's aged well, from a feminist perspective. IMO.

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Her short story 'dull drums' was prescient.

CrystalSingerFan · 01/05/2026 21:43

quantumbutterfly · 01/05/2026 21:39

Her short story 'dull drums' was prescient.

Ooh. Never heard of it. (I've read the DragonRider ones.) <Scampers off to look it up>

But if it's more prescient than E. M. Forster's The Machine Stops I'll be suprised.

MsGreying · 01/05/2026 21:48

Do you think it'll all end with us getting out of the shower and the last few years being a dream?

Abhannmor · 01/05/2026 22:18

CrystalSingerFan · 01/05/2026 20:54

The clue's in the name, obvs. Also, www.gov.uk tell me "He was the first and only Jewish Prime Minister to date." Sorry it's not helping the excellent thread, but given current events...

May I also recommend a visit to his home in Hughenden. NT.

Thought he converted to C of E? Could be wrong.

CrystalSingerFan · 01/05/2026 22:42

Abhannmor · 01/05/2026 22:18

Thought he converted to C of E? Could be wrong.

Well... "Benjamin Disraeli (1804–1881) was ethnically Jewish and is widely considered the first Jewish Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Though born to Sephardic Jewish parents, he was baptized into the Anglican Church at age 12, allowing him to enter Parliament, which was then restricted to Christians." (Wikipedia)

www.gov.uk supports this claim. Dunno about the current situation...

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MyAmpleSheep · 01/05/2026 22:44

MsGreying · 01/05/2026 21:48

Do you think it'll all end with us getting out of the shower and the last few years being a dream?

No.

Now shove up, stop hogging the hot water, and pass the shampoo.