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onlytherain · 29/04/2026 12:32

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8pnwyy0zjo

"The High Court case did not consider what happened to Kathleen Stock, who left her job as professor of philosophy at Sussex after protests and threats over her view that gender was not more important than biological sex.
High Court judge Mrs Justice Lieven ruled on Wednesday whether a proper process was followed in issuing the fine, the size of which sent shockwaves through universities across England."

A low concrete monument bearing the text “University of Sussex” sits on a grassy verge, viewed from a low angle. Trees with early spring foliage form the background under an overcast sky, giving the setting a quiet, landscaped campus feel.

University of Sussex wins landmark free speech case against universities regulator

A record fine had been issued by the Office for Students over the university's trans and non-binary inclusion policy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8pnwyy0zjo

CompleteGinasaur · 29/04/2026 12:40

Absolutely shocking use of procedural loophole. The comments are open for a change on the BBC report, though..

TurbulentPriest · 29/04/2026 13:00

The OfS investigation looks like it was an absolute shambles. It has to be, and be seen to be, fair and impartial. Assume they will tighten up their procedures after this!

WallaceinAnderland · 29/04/2026 13:41

We don't need extremes and massive fines for breaking the law, we just need people to understand that they have to follow the law and can't discriminate against anyone.

MarieDeGournay · 29/04/2026 14:47

Feck.

onlytherain · 29/04/2026 15:02

WallaceinAnderland · 29/04/2026 13:41

We don't need extremes and massive fines for breaking the law, we just need people to understand that they have to follow the law and can't discriminate against anyone.

In principle, I agree. In practice, however, many organisations clearly do not comply with the law unless there is a strong deterrent discouraging non-compliance. Many organisation ignore the Supreme Court decision. It cannot be that women have to fight each non-compliant organisation at huge financial risk. Huge fines would speed it all up.

CompleteGinasaur · 29/04/2026 15:14

And sorry about that, just had a look at the BBC report again and comments have been removed. That didn't take long.

TurbulentPriest · 29/04/2026 15:24

onlytherain · 29/04/2026 15:02

In principle, I agree. In practice, however, many organisations clearly do not comply with the law unless there is a strong deterrent discouraging non-compliance. Many organisation ignore the Supreme Court decision. It cannot be that women have to fight each non-compliant organisation at huge financial risk. Huge fines would speed it all up.

The new OfS freedom of speech complaints system coming in later this year could potentially involve even bigger fines.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm29dngvjqeo
It’s up to OfS to make sure they don’t mess this up as well….

A diverse group of students sit at a table in a university library.

New university free speech complaints system to come into force this year

Universities could face fines of £500,000 or 2% of their income if they are found to have failed to protect free speech.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm29dngvjqeo

MarieDeGournay · 29/04/2026 15:29

At least the experiences of Kathleen Stock at Sussex are well documented.

They can argue all they like about process [which should have been followed correctly, we wouldn't be here if it had been] and quibble about their trans policy
'was not what is called a "governing document" and did not have the importance attached to it by regulator the OfS.'

but they can't deny the intolerance and threatening atmosphere on the campus, regardless of whether the perpetrators were inspired by a 'governing document' or just the knowledge that they could do whatever they wanted, nobody was going to stop them persecuting Doc Stock and making her working life in Sussex Uni unliveable.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 29/04/2026 15:59

That's bad news, can KS appeal this decision, because if so I hope she does, because it being overturned just gives university a shield against any further injustices they are responsible for.

It's not about the money, the size of the award was a justifiable slap in the face for the uni dimwits, the message this sends is nobody in academia has to take any responsibility. 🤬

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 29/04/2026 16:05

I don't think KS can but OfS can - the issue is with the process not specifically the outcome.

PollyNomial · 29/04/2026 16:06

Today could be said to be a "justifiable slap in the face" of a "uni dimwit" who didn't know the contents of their own reading list.

FernandoSor · 29/04/2026 16:20

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 29/04/2026 15:59

That's bad news, can KS appeal this decision, because if so I hope she does, because it being overturned just gives university a shield against any further injustices they are responsible for.

It's not about the money, the size of the award was a justifiable slap in the face for the uni dimwits, the message this sends is nobody in academia has to take any responsibility. 🤬

It's nothing to do with KS who is not directly involved in this case. The Office for Students fined Sussex for not upholding free speech, Sussex (as they are pretty much bound to do when that much money is at stake) appealed to the High Court, who found that the Office for Students did not properly follow their own written procedures and therefore the fine is void.

The Office for Students could of course try to appeal the decision to a higher court, or they could relaunch the investigation and do it properly this time. Or they could say "lessons will be learnt" and accept the decision.

MyAmpleSheep · 29/04/2026 16:38

Procedure - and fair procedure - is incredibly important. It's what distinguishes government from baying mobs with pitchforks. (And this topic has enough of those floating around.)

Nathalie Lieven (Mrs Justice Lieven) is the same Judge who ruled against Sex Matters Judicial Review of the Corporation of the City of London's decisions about the Hampstead ponds. The Court of Appeal overturned her on that.

Imnobody4 · 29/04/2026 16:47

https://x.com/i/status/2049465188433187131

STATEMENT: The High Court’s judgment in R (University of Sussex) v Office for Students has just been handed down, and it represents a serious setback for those concerned with freedom of speech and academic freedom on campus.

First, the court adopts a restrictive interpretation of what counts as a “governing document”. In practice, that means the OfS cannot use its core regulatory condition — Condition E1, which requires universities’ governing documents to uphold free speech and academic freedom — to reach ordinary internal policy frameworks via the “governing documents” route. That matters because EDI policies, harassment codes and reporting systems are often the mechanisms through which lawful but, to some, upsetting speech is regulated on campus. The risk is that a whole layer of policies which, in practice, govern campus culture will now sit beyond the same level of regulatory scrutiny.

Second, it resets the meaning of “freedom of speech within the law”. The OfS had treated one of Sussex’s contested policies as problematic because it was capable of capturing lawful speech. The court rejects that approach, holding that the OfS had not properly applied the structured analysis its own guidance requires. Although the regulator accepts that lawful speech may, in some circumstances, be restricted where there are no reasonably practicable steps to secure it and the restriction is justified and proportionate, the court found that it had effectively treated the capture of lawful speech as sufficient to establish a breach. The danger is obvious: the fight over lawful speech will now be pushed into case-by-case balancing exercises, precisely the terrain on which universities have long sought to defend restrictive internal policies.

Third, the court gives “academic freedom” a hard-edged but narrow statutory meaning. The relevant legal threshold is whether an academic is placed in jeopardy of losing their job or privileges — not whether they are subjected to investigation, pressure, reputational damage, or a broader chilling effect. On this point too, the OfS’s approach was found to be legally flawed. Yet for academics, the reality is that pressure rarely operates at that level. Instead, it takes softer forms — cancellation, ostracism, exclusion from networks and opportunities, reputational damage — all of which can chill speech long before anyone is formally “in jeopardy” of losing their job.

The result is that while the statutory duties to protect academic freedom and freedom of speech remain in place, a gap has opened up between the high-level documents the regulator can scrutinise and the ways speech is managed on campus in practice.

We hope the OfS appeals this ruling.

We’re still working through the detail, but the key points are already clear. At the heart of the ruling are three findings that materially narrow the routes by which the regulator can enforce free-speech protections.

Having already stripped students out of the new free-speech complaints scheme, the government has turned the Office for Students into the Office for everyone but students. Now, if this ruling stands and confines the regulator to universities’ formal “governing documents”, while pushing disputes over lawful speech back into case-by-case proportionality tests, the OfS may find its most direct route to the EDI policies and reporting systems through which speech is actually policed cut off — creating the Office for no one at all.

Committee for Academic Freedom (@ComAcFreedom) on X

STATEMENT: The High Court’s judgment in R (University of Sussex) v Office for Students has just been handed down, and it represents a serious setback for those concerned with freedom of speech and academic freedom on campus. We’re still working throug...

https://x.com/i/status/2049465188433187131

FernandoSor · 29/04/2026 16:52

Realistically, when you have a government body (rather than a court) issuing fines, a lot of cases end up being tested in court. Especially with a relatively new body such as the OfS, working in a generally murky and untested area of law - campus free speech is not something that anyone gave any thought to until a few years ago after all.

Imnobody4 · 29/04/2026 16:56

Free Speech Union agrees.
This is a disappointing judgment which effectively renders the Higher Education (Freedom of Speech) Act toothless. It sends a message to universities that they only need to pay lip service to the new free speech duties in the Act and not actually do anything concrete to uphold academic freedom and free speech on campus.

This judgment will effectively leave academics like Kathleen Stock defenceless, while empowering activists to hound off campus anyone they disagree with. We very much hope the Office for Students appeals and if it does we hope to intervene.

https://x.com/i/status/2049452436964684094

Hope there's an appeal.

The Free Speech Union (@SpeechUnion) on X

This is a disappointing judgment which effectively renders the Higher Education (Freedom of Speech) Act toothless. It sends a message to universities that they only need to pay lip service to the new free speech duties in the Act and not actually do an...

https://x.com/i/status/2049452436964684094

KnottyAuty · 29/04/2026 17:04

Imnobody4 · 29/04/2026 16:56

Free Speech Union agrees.
This is a disappointing judgment which effectively renders the Higher Education (Freedom of Speech) Act toothless. It sends a message to universities that they only need to pay lip service to the new free speech duties in the Act and not actually do anything concrete to uphold academic freedom and free speech on campus.

This judgment will effectively leave academics like Kathleen Stock defenceless, while empowering activists to hound off campus anyone they disagree with. We very much hope the Office for Students appeals and if it does we hope to intervene.

https://x.com/i/status/2049452436964684094

Hope there's an appeal.

Very interesting developments. I had been wondering how this appeal by Sussex was going. I had slightly wished that the OfS had gone for the parking fine model of penalty fee - pay within Y days or it doubles! Especially as they said they had given them a discount... I do hope that the OfS does appeal against this because as the above statement on X says, if organisational policies aren't accepted as impacting on the governance of the university, then what the hell is? And hard agree that the chilling effect hits way before a job is lost - KS resigned so by their reckoning she didn't suffer? Clearly a lot to pick over at an appeal. Next steps will be interesting - there will be many battles to be fought in different campaigns until this war for truth and accuracy is won.

TurbulentPriest · 29/04/2026 17:20

The judge found that (a) OfS had failed to take into account that Sussex had subsequently amended the policy in question, and (b) the decision appeared to have been predetermined in order to make an example of the university. The net outcome is that Sussex has rectified the situation; but OfS have rightly been picked up on the fairness of the process.

OfS is already upping its game and strengthening its hand through the proposed complaints process (see the link I posted earlier), and the introduction of an explicit condition of registration re upholding academic freedom and freedom of speech (so they won’t have to resort to quibbles over what constitutes a ‘governing document’). Universities will need to take their duties seriously going forward ie today is not the ‘win’ it might initially appear to be.

mrshoho · 29/04/2026 17:26

TurbulentPriest · 29/04/2026 17:20

The judge found that (a) OfS had failed to take into account that Sussex had subsequently amended the policy in question, and (b) the decision appeared to have been predetermined in order to make an example of the university. The net outcome is that Sussex has rectified the situation; but OfS have rightly been picked up on the fairness of the process.

OfS is already upping its game and strengthening its hand through the proposed complaints process (see the link I posted earlier), and the introduction of an explicit condition of registration re upholding academic freedom and freedom of speech (so they won’t have to resort to quibbles over what constitutes a ‘governing document’). Universities will need to take their duties seriously going forward ie today is not the ‘win’ it might initially appear to be.

Edited

Excellent points.

dylexicdementor11 · 29/04/2026 17:33

Whoohoo! Great news - thanks for sharing! 🥳

TurbulentPriest · 29/04/2026 17:36

KnottyAuty · 29/04/2026 17:31

More on the future process here - for staff, non student members and visiting lecturers to make complaints direct to the OfS. But not open to students
https://www.officeforstudents.org.uk/news-blog-and-events/blog/update-on-free-speech-and-the-new-complaints-scheme/

That’s because they can already complain to the Office of the Independent Adjudicator instead. Student complaints can often involve a number of different strands, and you could end up in a quagmire if you have 2 different bodies investigating the same case at different speeds

IwantToRetire · 29/04/2026 18:01

As I understand it they messed up by not acting professionally and it is suggested tried to extend their remit in terms of what they can and can not officiate on.

It just seems like everything else in the UK we just cant manage anything. Or somehow it gets hijacked by people with an agenda.

Would be interested to know how those running this new set up were recruited.

It is about how did the University behave, what should they have done and what didn't they do.

Not sure why anyone thinks Kathleen Stock can appeal. It has nothing to do with her even though she was the one who suffered.

Although if the fine in this court case had been accepted as proportionate, whether in that context she could sue now as it would confirm she has been treated unfairly, in fact worse than unfairly.

IwantToRetire · 29/04/2026 18:03

Just found this which I hope will spell out quite clearly why the court ruled agains the fine.

Press Summary 29th April 2026
The University of Sussex v The Office for Students [2026] EWHC 984 (Admin)

Judge: The Honourable Mrs Justice Lieven

NOTE: This summary is provided to assist in understanding the Court’s decision. It does not form part of the reasons for the decision. The full judgment of the Court is the only authoritative document. References in square brackets are to paragraphs in the judgment

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/The-University-of-Sussex-v-The-Office-for-Students-Press-Summary.pdf

The University of Sussex v The Office for Students - Press Summary

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/The-University-of-Sussex-v-The-Office-for-Students-Press-Summary.pdf

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