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TurbulentPriest · 01/05/2026 18:38

IwantToRetire · 01/05/2026 18:10

Apparently the fine was 15 times higher than any previous fines, although none had been on the issue of free speech.

Quote from AI:

In early 2026, there was a major change in leadership, with the chief executive Susan Lapworth leaving and Ruth Hannant and Polly Payne appointed as new chief executives to lead the "reset" of the regulator's role

Does anyone know what this reset is?

Lol they’re constantly resetting! I think this probably refers to the new-ish OfS strategy for 2025-2030 ie much broader than just freedom of speech

MarieDeGournay · 01/05/2026 18:41

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 01/05/2026 13:54

But that was the nature of this appeal - the judge didn't choose not to comment on whether or not Sussex had violated free speech, it wasn't a matter in her remit. And actually, on the only point put before the court that did touch on the actual facts of the matter, the judge did not uphold Sussex's case (Sussex claimed that the OfS had claimed there had been a chilling effect with no evidence; the judge didn't uphold this because she found the OfS's reading of the evidence to meet the standard of rationality).

As an analogy, it's like if you thought I had stolen your wallet, so you locked me in your cellar, and then a judge was asked to rule on whether or not you were right to lock me in your cellar. The judge isn't supposed to deciding whether I stole your wallet, or whether stealing is wrong - the point is that you don't have the authority or grounds to lock me in your cellar for it in the way you did. The OfS did the equivalent of the locking in the cellar; it's not for this case whether or not Sussex did steal the wallet.

Thank you, I understand and agree with what you are saying. My regret is that the judgment was NOT about Sussex Uni's violation of free speech.

I promise not to lock you in my cellar, if you promise not to [a] steal my wallet, and [b] accept that I understand what you are saying, and that I am complaining about what the judgement is not, not what it isSmile

[Shush everyone - don't tell MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned that I don't actually have a cellar, so she can steal my wallet, and post an infinite number of posts explaining the judgement to me, with impunityGrin]

Imnobody4 · 01/05/2026 19:22

Jo Phoenix has written a blog. She's not happy.

Today’s blog is about a single phrase, on page 56 of the judgment.

“Irrelevant considerations.”

That is the phrase Mrs Justice Lieven uses, at paragraph 271, to describe the chilling effect on academic freedom and the stress and anxiety inflicted on academics. Irrelevant. Not ‘relevant but insufficient’. Not ‘present but outweighed’. Irrelevant. To breach the academic freedom principle, the judgment tells us, an academic must be in jeopardy of losing their job. Not in jeopardy of disciplinary process. Not at risk of psychological injury or even at risk of unlawful harassment and discrimination. Not subject to a chilling effect “however harmful that might be.”

https://jophoenix.substack.com/p/irrelevant-considerations

Irrelevant Considerations

Yesterday, the High Court handed down judgment in R (University of Sussex) v Office for Students. The University won. The £585,000 fine has been quashed. The OfS has been found to have predetermined the decision, picked Sussex as a “test case” to incen...

https://jophoenix.substack.com/p/irrelevant-considerations

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 01/05/2026 19:59

Freddie Attenborough's take on the verdict, apparently the Uni spent more money fighting the fine than the actual fine was 🤯 and these are the countries brightest!!!!

"Part of the problem lies in the High Court’s restrictive interpretation of what counts as a ‘governing document’. "

"Filtered through various committees and working groups, often dominated by activist staff in rainbow lanyards, these EDI policies and harassment codes are what now regulate much of what can and cannot be said on campus. The result is a whole layer of policies that, in practice, function as the ‘documents that govern’ university life will no longer be treated as ‘governing documents’ that the OfS can scrutinise."

The High Court has rewarded Kathleen Stock’s persecutors - spiked

The High Court has rewarded Kathleen Stock’s persecutors

Sussex University has inexplicably won the right to trample on free speech and academic freedom.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/04/30/the-high-court-has-rewarded-kathleen-stocks-persecutors/

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 01/05/2026 20:10

@Imnobody4 It is irrelevant. It’s the process used by OFS that was at fault!!! Nothing about feelings.

KnottyAuty · 01/05/2026 20:39

Regulatory ‘rethink and reset’ required after Sussex ruling
By Jack Grove in Times Higher:
archive.is/wOYyk

IwantToRetire · 01/05/2026 21:23

KnottyAuty · 01/05/2026 20:39

Regulatory ‘rethink and reset’ required after Sussex ruling
By Jack Grove in Times Higher:
archive.is/wOYyk

Already posted upthread!

TurbulentPriest · 01/05/2026 21:58

Point of order: both the spiked article and Jo Phoenix’s article are incorrect that the court/its judgement determined that academic freedom is only breached if an academic is in danger of losing their job and/or privileges. That is literally the definition of academic freedom laid down in the HE Freedom of Speech Act, and wasn’t up for interpretation. (Whether or not the legal framework is fit for purpose is however a moot point…..)

KnottyAuty · 01/05/2026 22:17

IwantToRetire · 01/05/2026 21:23

Already posted upthread!

argh thanks - I only saw the subscriber link - didn't spot the archive

IwantToRetire · 02/05/2026 01:44

KnottyAuty · 01/05/2026 22:17

argh thanks - I only saw the subscriber link - didn't spot the archive

No worries - not even sure how important it is. But adds to the fallout from the court case or rather the decision.

WittyLimeBiscuit · 03/05/2026 06:49

I don't think this will be the last we hear of this case and I hope this decision doesn't stand.

KnottyAuty · 03/05/2026 07:46

WittyLimeBiscuit · 03/05/2026 06:49

I don't think this will be the last we hear of this case and I hope this decision doesn't stand.

Amen to that!

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 03/05/2026 09:51

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 01/05/2026 19:59

Freddie Attenborough's take on the verdict, apparently the Uni spent more money fighting the fine than the actual fine was 🤯 and these are the countries brightest!!!!

"Part of the problem lies in the High Court’s restrictive interpretation of what counts as a ‘governing document’. "

"Filtered through various committees and working groups, often dominated by activist staff in rainbow lanyards, these EDI policies and harassment codes are what now regulate much of what can and cannot be said on campus. The result is a whole layer of policies that, in practice, function as the ‘documents that govern’ university life will no longer be treated as ‘governing documents’ that the OfS can scrutinise."

The High Court has rewarded Kathleen Stock’s persecutors - spiked

Edited

Great article on just read it. I’m sure they will appeal. They have to or why bother existing. Shame it will take so long.

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