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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?

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HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:39

Dear friends,

As anyone paying attention to current trans affairs knows, the anti-trans brigade like to throw around what they think is the “killer question”.

"What is a woman, then?"

These people will often engage in triumphal sneering as they further insist "Your chromosomes are what you are; XX are women and XY are men. It's science, innit?"

And as a confident trans-woman I say to these people "Absolutely! What is a woman? Great question! Let's examine that".

To begin, let's consult three definitive sources:

First, the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language.
Then, modern genetics and neurophysiology.
And finally, up to date research on brain structure in cisgender and transgender women.

First, the dictionary.
For this, let's go with the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language:

Woman (noun)

  1. an adult female human being
  2. an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth

As we can see from #2, despite the recent social backlash and disproportionately loud screeching from certain murky corners of the internet, Western culture as a whole is moving toward accepting the validity of trans peoples' inner gender identity. No person with a working moral compass would consider this a bad thing.

Next, let’s summarize genetics and neurophysiology.

Modern society routinely treats all the following “XY” humans as WOMEN, however...
-You can be a woman because you have X & Y chromosomes but your body is insensitive to androgens and you have female anatomy & gender identity.
Ah, so much for the childishly simplistic “But women = XX and men = XY".
-You can be a woman with X & Y chromosomes but your Y is missing the SRY gene, so you have a female body and gender identity (yes, this is a real thing despite your denials).

People who have X & Y chromosomes, but their Y is missing the SRY gene, develop a female body.
Should we treat such people as men, in society, when they have the body of a woman, simply because simpletons insist that XY = Male?
Only an inveterate bigot with some weird religious and/or psychosexual axe to grind would say yes.

You can be a woman with XXY or XXXY chromosomes, giving you a male body but female brain/body map and gender identity.
-You can be a woman with XY chromosomes but a mutation called CBX2 that blocks the influence of the SRY gene.
-You can be a woman because you have 46,XY in some cells but 46,XX in other cells, or 47, XXY.

These are all valid, scientifically obervable genetic variations that highlight the "But XX = women and XY = men" mantra for the simplistic, unscientific nonsense that it is.

And lastly, there are studies of brain structure.
These show that in the section of the brain that determines one’s sense of gender identity.

The brains of transgender women are almost identical to those of cisgender women.
The brains of trans men also align more with cisgender men than they do with women.

And so, to summarize

Modern science, which is how rational people resolve differences of opinion.
It is not about referring to holy books, written in pre-scientific ages past.
It is not about regurgitating simplistic, binary statements that you learnt in the 4th grade.

This shows us that, genetically and biologically speaking, there are many types of women; including transgender women like me.

P.S. In this essay we have a summary of the cutting edge science which validates transgender womens' biologically determined, inner sense of gender identity.

As I’ve said, a rational society follows rational explanations, and doesn’t define its people via outdated religious or cultural ideas.
But beyond that, there is simply human courtesy and kindness.

It’s cruel, hateful and rude for the transphobic bigots to demand that people be forced to conform to their anti-scientific notions.

No one's life is affected negatively by honoring a transwoman as a woman, as the historical record of many trans accepting societies have shown.

Good people will see the very challenging dilemma that transwomen are in, and their natural empathy, coupled with scientific insight, will make them want to support their fellow human beings in being who they know they are.

And so, I ask all of you:

Should we as a society treat trans-women as the women their brain and neurobiology tells us they are? And, if not, why on earth wouldn’t we?

P.P.S. The image in this post is of women who have XY chromosomes, but an androgen insensitivity syndrome which causes their bodies to develop as female.
Would anyone in their right mind insist we treat them as males, simply because of their chromosomal makeup?
The bigots might, but you know you're better than that, right?

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?
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BackToLurk · 28/04/2026 13:44

BusyAzureTraybake · 28/04/2026 13:43

So you don't believe that 'transwomen' are women, presumably?

Oh they do. Just not all the time. It’s a fascinating stance. Entirely devoid of logic.

MrsColinRobinson · 28/04/2026 13:45

TheWickerFan · 28/04/2026 13:41

But if you allow transwomen into female toilets, you increase the risk for every other woman who uses them. We have no evidence at all transwomen are less safe in male facilities. So what are you basing that on?

She won't answer that. It's tiresome for her to bother herself about women's safety apparently 🙄

Given the lack of evidence of an increased risk of male violence towards transwomen, over that of male to male violence, together with well documented data of higher sexual offending in the transwomen prison population it's a tricky stance to get your head around for sure.

HazelLemur · 28/04/2026 13:45

BackToLurk · 28/04/2026 13:38

But you’re in New York aren’t you? What do you mean by ‘this country’ ?

Obviously by 'this country' I mean the UK, but what makes you think I'm in New York?

You might want to have a think about your answer before you reply...

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BackToLurk · 28/04/2026 13:46

HazelLemur · 28/04/2026 13:45

Obviously by 'this country' I mean the UK, but what makes you think I'm in New York?

You might want to have a think about your answer before you reply...

Is it your OP or did you steal it?

Boiledbeetle · 28/04/2026 13:51

EdithStourton · 28/04/2026 12:55

I've also never had a mystery chunk of cash land in my bank account, nor been able to work out whose sock puppet I am.

Sad times.

Am I the only one who regularly receives the money from the far right?

I mean there was some mention from my generous mystery benefactors when it first started arriving about distributing it amongst the other cult members, but I'm not one for following rules.

<goes back to polishing my gold ingots>

BackToLurk · 28/04/2026 13:53

Anyway @HazelLemur you were going to outline the differences between antisemitism and anti-Zionism. Straight after you posted all that evidence for the brain thing, I believe.

We're all on tenterhooks here, waiting for your male wisdom on everything.

OldCrone · 28/04/2026 13:54

IggyPopsPlasticTrousers · 28/04/2026 13:39

I can - and do - square that circle, by sticking to the principle that the best outcome is the one that creates the least harm to the most amount of people.

Taking money from billionaires and using it to fund social services is a great example of that.

Allowing trans women to use female bathrooms in order to avoid the danger of going into male facilities would seem to me to be another.

Refusing to allow trans women to enter female elite sports to win prizes set aside for women athletes, would be a third example.

Allowing trans women to use female bathrooms in order to avoid the danger of going into male facilities would seem to me to be another.

Two questions for you.

Why do you think we have separate male and female toilets in the first place, rather than everything being mixed sex?

How do we tell the difference between a 'genuine' transwoman and a man pretending to be a transwoman?

Sorry, three questions.

What makes you believe that a man who claims to be a transwoman is in danger in men's toilets?

And a fourth 😀

What makes you believe that all men who claim to be transwomen are no danger to women and girls? (Isla Bryson, Katie Dolatowski and Barbie Kardashian all claim to be transwomen)

BackToLurk · 28/04/2026 13:54

Boiledbeetle · 28/04/2026 13:51

Am I the only one who regularly receives the money from the far right?

I mean there was some mention from my generous mystery benefactors when it first started arriving about distributing it amongst the other cult members, but I'm not one for following rules.

<goes back to polishing my gold ingots>

I have shadowy overlords, but I think they've lost my bank details.

Secretsquirrelshh · 28/04/2026 13:54

I AM MAN

MAN CAN BE WOMAN - HERE IS SCIENCE!

Where is science?

NO! LOOK OVER HERE! WAR IN ISRAEL. THAT IS IMPORTANT THING NOW. MAN HAS SPOKEN.

Iatethelastbiscuit · 28/04/2026 13:55

Helleofabore · 28/04/2026 11:30

READER'S NOTE:

I suspect that this might be one of those studies that the OP believes support's his case.

Differences in transwomen's brains have been found, but they do not align neatly with women's or men's brains.

"Our results support the hypothesis that brain structure in TW differs from brain structure of their biological sex (male) as well as their perceived gender (female)."

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-020-0666-3

The TW brain structures were not in the 'female' range at all. They were fully within the male range.

Studies like the one mentioned above compare trans people's brains with those of heterosexual people. This is an important drawback, because differences in the brains of heterosexual and homosexual people have been observed.

The following study compared the brains of trans people with a set of non-transpeople that included both heterosexual people and homosexual people.

"After controlling for sexual orientation, the transgender groups showed sex-typical FA-values. The only exception was the right inferior fronto-occipital tract, connecting parietal and frontal brain areas that mediate own body perception. Our findings suggest that the neuroanatomical signature of transgenderism is related to brain areas processing the perception of self and body ownership,"

www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17352-8

We have not seen one paper that shows male people with transgender identities have brains 'almost identical' to female people's brains.

This makes sense. Trans people’s brains look different to non-trans people’s brains because they have gender dysphoria- a mental health condition. They do not have the opposite sex’s brain in there. Similar to a few other mental health conditions that have been found to show up as abnormalities in brain scans

HazelLemur · 28/04/2026 13:55

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BackToLurk · 28/04/2026 13:55

Secretsquirrelshh · 28/04/2026 13:54

I AM MAN

MAN CAN BE WOMAN - HERE IS SCIENCE!

Where is science?

NO! LOOK OVER HERE! WAR IN ISRAEL. THAT IS IMPORTANT THING NOW. MAN HAS SPOKEN.

I read that in what I imagine is his voice. Top marks.

Secretsquirrelshh · 28/04/2026 13:56

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WE ARE NOT CULT. WE SPEAK AS ONE.

CALM DOWN DEAR.

TheWickerFan · 28/04/2026 13:57

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And you call GC people the cult. I think you're a bit mixed up, dear.

BackToLurk · 28/04/2026 13:58

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Is that why you can't provide any evidence? You didn't write the OP and you have little idea what any of it means? You're just blindly parroting something someone else said. Pretending to be someone you aren't...Oh, wait a minute...

Secretsquirrelshh · 28/04/2026 14:00

There once was a man on a thread,
Who said trans people were women instead;
When challenged for proof,
He’d pivot uncouth.
Big feet, but no thoughts in his head.

HazelLemur · 28/04/2026 14:01

Secretsquirrelshh · 28/04/2026 13:56

WE ARE NOT CULT. WE SPEAK AS ONE.

CALM DOWN DEAR.

You really do hate the idea that the trans community might be a community, don't you? As much as you hate us individually, or less, would you say?

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DialSquare · 28/04/2026 14:01

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Well that’s a first. Admitting that you agree with the likes of Isla Bryson and Karen White. After all, they are part of your community.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 28/04/2026 14:02

We are the Borg. Assimilate.

ChequerToRed · 28/04/2026 14:02

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‘We are the Borg. You will be assimilated.’
🤣

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TheWickerFan · 28/04/2026 14:02

HazelLemur · 28/04/2026 14:01

You really do hate the idea that the trans community might be a community, don't you? As much as you hate us individually, or less, would you say?

People in a community generally don't agree on every single thing, though, do they? That's more cult territory. No one hates you or your community. We just don't think men are women.

BackToLurk · 28/04/2026 14:02

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 28/04/2026 14:02

We are the Borg. Assimilate.

The Bore

HazelLemur · 28/04/2026 14:03

TheWickerFan · 28/04/2026 13:57

And you call GC people the cult. I think you're a bit mixed up, dear.

The GC cult is very evidently so. That has been clearly demonstrated across this thread.

And you will continue to demonstrate it on other threads, or in your actual life (see SSSIS) where you feel society isn't conforming to your ideology.

You are, as I have always maintained, a cult. And anyone outside the cult must be attacked.

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EmpressaurusKitty · 28/04/2026 14:03

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Crikey. The Borg.

Do you take turns to lead the chanting or do the phrases enter all your brains at the same time?

Is the Borg Queen that bloke who cut his own balls off in prison & shouts about punching terfs?

TriesNotToBeCynical · 28/04/2026 14:05

ITMA2000 · 28/04/2026 11:52

Not all men are women.

We all can be if we want to be though!!

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