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Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person

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singthing · 24/04/2026 16:18

Choir dropped from London Marathon over founder’s ‘gender-critical views’
Charity cancels singers who raise runners’ spirits owing to Janet Murray’s opposition to gender ideology

A choir has been dropped from the London Marathon over a member’s gender-critical views.

The Singing Striders are frequently booked to stand on the sidelines and raise the spirits of runners, and the group had been invited to support the upcoming marathon by Scope, a leading disability charity.

However, the amateur ensemble was dropped because a single member had been critical of gender ideology.

This is the view that gender is defined by self-identification, rather than biological sex, meaning that those born male can become women.

Janet Murray, the choir founder, was informed that her opposition to this worldview went against Scope’s “commitment to diversity and inclusion”.

Charity bosses also told her “we are concerned about your views because we don’t agree with your views”.

As a writer and journalist, Murray has publicly expressed concerns about the inclusion of biological males in women’s sports and organisations such as Girlguiding.

It is understood that the decision to cancel the choir, which was to perform for no fee, came after Scope received two anonymous complaints about these opinions.

The charity has since defended its stance as it is “committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people”.

Janet Murray, the writer
Murray says it is ironic that Scope should bring politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners Credit: Belinda Jiao
Ms Murray told The Telegraph: “When cancel culture finds its way into something as joyful as a choir singing for marathon runners, it’s a sobering reminder of how insidious it can be.

“My choir exists to lift people up, helping them through the hardest moments as they raise money for charity. I’ve run the London Marathon myself, and I know how much that support means.”

The writer said that while she did have gender-critical views, they did not enter into her work with the choir, adding: “I leave politics at home when I’m with the choir – and so does everyone else.

“Ironically, it’s Scope that’s brought politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners – effectively silencing a choir in the process.”

The cancellation came despite the Singing Striders performing for Scope at past marathons without incident.

The London Marathon has several “cheer points” along the route to boost the morale of runners, and Scope has two dedicated spaces this year, at Tower Hill and Woolwich

The London Marathon will take place on Sunday
The London Marathon will take place on Sunday Credit: Karwai Tang/WireImage
The Singing Striders were set to raise a chorus at the mile-three cheer point in Woolwich, performing from 8.30am to 1pm, with minor expenses for travel covered by Scope.

The choir had practised for months ahead of the marathon, and members were understood to be surprised and disappointed by the decision, and hopeful that an organisation might come forward to offer them a space at the event on Sunday.

Critics of gender ideology have been subjected to cancellation since the issue of transgender identities emerged into public consciousness, with figures such as Graham Linehan, the Father Ted co-writer, being an early victim of censoriousness.

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In 2024, the debate shifted again when the Cass review cautioned against rushing children into life-changing gender transitions, particularly with the use of potentially harmful puberty blockers.

Scope has defended its decision to cancel the marathon choir, stating that the move “reflects where we stand as an organisation and our commitment to our colleagues, volunteers and supporters”.

John McLachlan, Scope’s chief executive, said: “Concerns were raised to us about the views of the founder and director of Singing Striders, a choir who were due to volunteer to perform for us at the London Marathon. After consideration, we took the decision to not have their choir perform on our behalf.

“We understand and respect the right for people to hold different views about inclusion. At Scope, we are committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people. We have trans and non-binary colleagues, volunteers and supporters.

“Scope is committed to equality and inclusion. Our EDI policy sets out our commitment to be an inclusive employer and inclusive charity.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views/
https://archive.ph/LXP0N

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views

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AccordingToWhom · Yesterday 09:21

The men just cannot leave her alone.

Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person
SCOPEismisogynistic · Yesterday 09:27

KnottyAuty · Yesterday 09:18

I think he was banned as AidaP after the rolling pin discovery and then I strongly suspected he was posting under another account so I asked MN to check. It would seem I guessed right as the 2nd account has also vanished. Mumsnet is a place for open debate but that doesn’t give someone the right to shout everyone down with endless pointless arguments. It’s was verbal and not pejorative but the volume of posting was harassing imo

I love that you kept an eye on the little rapscallion & MN gave him his marching orders.

SirChenjins · Yesterday 09:33

SCOPEismisogynistic · Yesterday 09:27

I love that you kept an eye on the little rapscallion & MN gave him his marching orders.

Was it Pom, I wonder? That poster seemed quite strident in their views on women.

RoyalCorgi · Yesterday 10:11

Theeyeballsinthesky · Yesterday 09:20

You're completely right but the CEO, senior staff and trustees of Scope are all part of the lanyardocracy. All the big charity infrastructure bodies like NCVO, ACEVO & NAVCA are captured as are all the big funders like comic relief and the lottery along with the NHS, central and local government. The charity press is all captured as well.

they move within a bubble - they all read the guardian, they're bombarded with TWAW propaganda from within and without thanks to the charity sector revolving wheel of senior staff and trustees.

they will literally never have heard anyone tell them different and they will never have given it more thought than "everyone tells us it's like being gay and anyone who doesn't agree supports trump/votes reform"

Absolutely. The other point of course is that there will be lots of people working for Scope who don't agree with this nonsense. But the Scope CEO and his lanyard-wearing chums won't be aware of them because these people remain silent for the obvious reason that they've seen what happens to people like Janet Murray who dare to speak out. So, hilariously, having created an environment where everyone is too frightened to disagree with him, Mr CEO thinks everyone agrees with him. He's in for a nasty shock if he ever finds himself back in the real world.

BusyAzureTraybake · Yesterday 10:12

Theeyeballsinthesky · Yesterday 09:20

You're completely right but the CEO, senior staff and trustees of Scope are all part of the lanyardocracy. All the big charity infrastructure bodies like NCVO, ACEVO & NAVCA are captured as are all the big funders like comic relief and the lottery along with the NHS, central and local government. The charity press is all captured as well.

they move within a bubble - they all read the guardian, they're bombarded with TWAW propaganda from within and without thanks to the charity sector revolving wheel of senior staff and trustees.

they will literally never have heard anyone tell them different and they will never have given it more thought than "everyone tells us it's like being gay and anyone who doesn't agree supports trump/votes reform"

I agree with this. It is surely the only explanation for this sort of fuck up, which will have alienated (to use their own word) people wherever they stand, or don't stand, on these issues.
Their bubble is so big that they didn't even know they were in one. Well, hopefully they do now. Especially if a good number of donations and legacies got cancelled, because it will harder for them to square the 'far-right fascist image' with the 'gives donations to a disability charity' image.

BusyAzureTraybake · Yesterday 10:15

https://www.scope.org.uk/about-us/trustees

Scope looking for a new Chair of Trustees
Do we know if this pre- or post-dates the choir cancellation?

Trustees | Disability charity Scope UK

The Board of Trustees set Scope's strategy and manage the charity.

https://www.scope.org.uk/about-us/trustees

Theeyeballsinthesky · Yesterday 10:21

BusyAzureTraybake · Yesterday 10:15

https://www.scope.org.uk/about-us/trustees

Scope looking for a new Chair of Trustees
Do we know if this pre- or post-dates the choir cancellation?

Edited

It pre dates

soupycustard · Yesterday 10:53

bonfireoftheverities · Yesterday 09:16

I'm sure she's smart enough to outwit these idiots, who are probably just blowing off steam, but you never know.
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1svqi4w/terf_janet_murray_is_looking_for_volunteers_for/
(A call to infiltrate the choir to embarrass her.)

This silliness is so typical of TRAs. I'm sure Janet would have no issue with trans-identified people singing with her choir, as long as they could sing well enough to be there. It's not like it was her who flounced. It's Scope that flounced. Ffs. These people are so narcissistic. All this 'oooh imagine how upset terfs are by our very existence'. No we're not. Just keep your male hands off our female rights. Other than that, live your life however you want. I literally don't give a toss and am utterly uninterested in your wardrobe choices or whether you like spicy sex. You bunch of narcissist toddlers.

MyFellowScroller · Yesterday 11:11

An opportunity to generate a few castrati from the new choir volunteers?
For musical balance of course.

MyFellowScroller · Yesterday 11:13

One of the existing Trustees at Scope is Tom Seddon. On the Scope website his Bio is:- Tom has built his career in the public sector. He works closely with Ministers and senior leaders in multiple government Departments to serve the public. His experiences range from LGBT+ policy at the Cabinet Office, to stakeholder and trade union engagement at the Department for Education.

Tom is currently the Head of Legislative Strategy at the Department for Education. He leads a team to deliver the Department’s legislative agenda. He also ensures cross-Government priorities are achieved.

He has over 7 years experience as a school governor, and is former trustee of a large theatre in West Yorkshire. Tom was previously a middle leader and teacher at a large Multi-Academy Trust.

When Tom was a teenager, he helped out at his local Scope charity shop because the charity had supported his sister, who has cerebral palsy.

Tom is a Member of the Impact Committee.

Theeyeballsinthesky · Yesterday 11:14

Janet is there - just posted on x

Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person
Theeyeballsinthesky · Yesterday 11:17

MyFellowScroller · Yesterday 11:13

One of the existing Trustees at Scope is Tom Seddon. On the Scope website his Bio is:- Tom has built his career in the public sector. He works closely with Ministers and senior leaders in multiple government Departments to serve the public. His experiences range from LGBT+ policy at the Cabinet Office, to stakeholder and trade union engagement at the Department for Education.

Tom is currently the Head of Legislative Strategy at the Department for Education. He leads a team to deliver the Department’s legislative agenda. He also ensures cross-Government priorities are achieved.

He has over 7 years experience as a school governor, and is former trustee of a large theatre in West Yorkshire. Tom was previously a middle leader and teacher at a large Multi-Academy Trust.

When Tom was a teenager, he helped out at his local Scope charity shop because the charity had supported his sister, who has cerebral palsy.

Tom is a Member of the Impact Committee.

Yes and when you dig down further you can see that Tom was extremely influential www.civilservice.lgbt/team/tom-seddon

DialSquare · Yesterday 11:19

Theeyeballsinthesky · Yesterday 11:14

Janet is there - just posted on x

And fucked SCOPE right off. Good for her.

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 11:24

MyFellowScroller · Yesterday 11:13

One of the existing Trustees at Scope is Tom Seddon. On the Scope website his Bio is:- Tom has built his career in the public sector. He works closely with Ministers and senior leaders in multiple government Departments to serve the public. His experiences range from LGBT+ policy at the Cabinet Office, to stakeholder and trade union engagement at the Department for Education.

Tom is currently the Head of Legislative Strategy at the Department for Education. He leads a team to deliver the Department’s legislative agenda. He also ensures cross-Government priorities are achieved.

He has over 7 years experience as a school governor, and is former trustee of a large theatre in West Yorkshire. Tom was previously a middle leader and teacher at a large Multi-Academy Trust.

When Tom was a teenager, he helped out at his local Scope charity shop because the charity had supported his sister, who has cerebral palsy.

Tom is a Member of the Impact Committee.

Men like Tom in influential government positions working with schools / children explain why transactivist groups were able to run amok in schools gaslighting children that sex change was a legitimate life decision, untruths like puberty blockers are reversible and insisting that girls must undress alongside men and boys or they're small minded bigots. 😡

MyFellowScroller · Yesterday 11:33

@MrsOvertonsWindow
Men like Tom in influential government positions working with schools / children explain why transactivist groups were able to run amok in schools gaslighting children that sex change was a legitimate life decision, untruths like puberty blockers are reversible and insisting that girls must undress alongside men and boys or they're small minded bigots.
Yes agree this is the kind of person that @SingleSexinSchools is up against in Brighton

borntobequiet · Yesterday 11:38

EmpressaurusKitty · Yesterday 05:24

He seems to have stopped posting on here, at least.

I think there might have been a name change, but he - AidaP - has a very identifiable style and tone. Here’s a reminder of the rolling pin (which might be a very lame attempt at a violent pun).

Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person
Cailleach1 · Yesterday 11:46

That chappie Tom states that he has been active wrt LGBTQ etc. in all his roles. So that would appear to be the common thread, and raison d’être, of his involvement. It doesn’t give you much confidence that he is interested in the professed purpose of the organisation. One could be forgiven for thinking blokes such as he are primarily involved to push whatever his mission is wrt LGBTQ etc.

Take, for example, women and children. Women and children who need trustworthy and safe care might not have their rights and needs upheld. Indeed, it seems to be the aim of such activists to introduce the policy that it is hateful to uphold the rights of women and children. Certainly when it conflicts with some dude’s wish to bring himself and his bits (and whatever intentions) along to access spaces where women and children are vulnerable. It just feels it is more to do with the thrashing of the rights of women and children.

And, onto the next org to do the same thing. Dude’s charter to walk all over women and children’s rights - in the name of progress and inclusion, of course.

I’m sure many a lesbian thinks such men’s privilege activists have some nerve to use the L and B. All abuses towards the rights of women and children appear to acceptable attrition.

BusyAzureTraybake · Yesterday 12:08

Janet Murray has a buymeacoffee link on her twitter account. She is a freelancer, so every little helps

Thank you for supporting Janet Murray!
Thanks so much for your support ❤️. I’m currently writing and podcasting my way through breast cancer, cancellation and the slow, real-time rebuild. Knowing something I’ve shared has resonated - or helped you feel a little less alone - makes this work feel worth doing. I aim post new writing and podcast episodes weekly at janetmurray.substack.com if you'd like to read or listen. Thanks again. Janet x

DontStopMe · Yesterday 12:20

It's great the Janet is out there supporting the runners and not supporting Scope. I watched some of the elite races - amazing finishes to the women's and men's races.

singthing · Yesterday 13:13

Theeyeballsinthesky · Yesterday 11:14

Janet is there - just posted on x

Given the previous spot was in a high profile dedicated/branded (presumably) space, the fences and stages would have gone up in advance. Does anyone know what is there instead - or just an empty plinth?

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KnottyAuty · Yesterday 14:14

SirChenjins · Yesterday 09:33

Was it Pom, I wonder? That poster seemed quite strident in their views on women.

It was Gloved something or other that set off my spidey senses. And they were accusing others of having “sock puppet” accounts which didnt exactly sound like any middle aged women I know…

lcakethereforeIam · Yesterday 14:56

AccordingToWhom · Yesterday 09:21

The men just cannot leave her alone.

If they can carry a tune, get along, follow directions and aren't dressed like sex clowns I suspect they'd be welcome.

IdaGlossop · Yesterday 16:27

I emailed SCOPE yesterday, before the lawyer-powered change of heart. Today, I raised a concern with the Charity Commission (easy o line form; hope lots of people complete it). SCOPE has lost sight of the basics: the interests of the vast majority of its service users, and the law of the land. Janet Murray is highly professional and has shown great courage for months in dealing with online abuse, the loss of her business, and a cancer diagnosis. I'm pleased for her she is getting commissions from TheTelegraph.

solerolover · Yesterday 16:44

KnottyAuty · Yesterday 14:14

It was Gloved something or other that set off my spidey senses. And they were accusing others of having “sock puppet” accounts which didnt exactly sound like any middle aged women I know…

Glovedhandscecilia right? So that account was also AidaP? If so, that's even more disturbing and offensive, seeing as they repeatedly talked about being a black woman, often bringing it up as a way to shut down conversation.

solerolover · Yesterday 16:47

Theeyeballsinthesky · Yesterday 11:14

Janet is there - just posted on x

This is so good to see! She should never have been punished by Scope in the first place, I'm glad she and the other volunteers are doing what they love independently of that organisation.