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Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person

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singthing · 24/04/2026 16:18

Choir dropped from London Marathon over founder’s ‘gender-critical views’
Charity cancels singers who raise runners’ spirits owing to Janet Murray’s opposition to gender ideology

A choir has been dropped from the London Marathon over a member’s gender-critical views.

The Singing Striders are frequently booked to stand on the sidelines and raise the spirits of runners, and the group had been invited to support the upcoming marathon by Scope, a leading disability charity.

However, the amateur ensemble was dropped because a single member had been critical of gender ideology.

This is the view that gender is defined by self-identification, rather than biological sex, meaning that those born male can become women.

Janet Murray, the choir founder, was informed that her opposition to this worldview went against Scope’s “commitment to diversity and inclusion”.

Charity bosses also told her “we are concerned about your views because we don’t agree with your views”.

As a writer and journalist, Murray has publicly expressed concerns about the inclusion of biological males in women’s sports and organisations such as Girlguiding.

It is understood that the decision to cancel the choir, which was to perform for no fee, came after Scope received two anonymous complaints about these opinions.

The charity has since defended its stance as it is “committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people”.

Janet Murray, the writer
Murray says it is ironic that Scope should bring politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners Credit: Belinda Jiao
Ms Murray told The Telegraph: “When cancel culture finds its way into something as joyful as a choir singing for marathon runners, it’s a sobering reminder of how insidious it can be.

“My choir exists to lift people up, helping them through the hardest moments as they raise money for charity. I’ve run the London Marathon myself, and I know how much that support means.”

The writer said that while she did have gender-critical views, they did not enter into her work with the choir, adding: “I leave politics at home when I’m with the choir – and so does everyone else.

“Ironically, it’s Scope that’s brought politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners – effectively silencing a choir in the process.”

The cancellation came despite the Singing Striders performing for Scope at past marathons without incident.

The London Marathon has several “cheer points” along the route to boost the morale of runners, and Scope has two dedicated spaces this year, at Tower Hill and Woolwich

The London Marathon will take place on Sunday
The London Marathon will take place on Sunday Credit: Karwai Tang/WireImage
The Singing Striders were set to raise a chorus at the mile-three cheer point in Woolwich, performing from 8.30am to 1pm, with minor expenses for travel covered by Scope.

The choir had practised for months ahead of the marathon, and members were understood to be surprised and disappointed by the decision, and hopeful that an organisation might come forward to offer them a space at the event on Sunday.

Critics of gender ideology have been subjected to cancellation since the issue of transgender identities emerged into public consciousness, with figures such as Graham Linehan, the Father Ted co-writer, being an early victim of censoriousness.

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In 2024, the debate shifted again when the Cass review cautioned against rushing children into life-changing gender transitions, particularly with the use of potentially harmful puberty blockers.

Scope has defended its decision to cancel the marathon choir, stating that the move “reflects where we stand as an organisation and our commitment to our colleagues, volunteers and supporters”.

John McLachlan, Scope’s chief executive, said: “Concerns were raised to us about the views of the founder and director of Singing Striders, a choir who were due to volunteer to perform for us at the London Marathon. After consideration, we took the decision to not have their choir perform on our behalf.

“We understand and respect the right for people to hold different views about inclusion. At Scope, we are committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people. We have trans and non-binary colleagues, volunteers and supporters.

“Scope is committed to equality and inclusion. Our EDI policy sets out our commitment to be an inclusive employer and inclusive charity.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views/
https://archive.ph/LXP0N

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/04/2026 20:28

A mealy mouth climb down if ever there was one, but it is a win, I'm glad they've had to eat humble pie, they were in the wrong, and everyone knows it.

No amount of attempting to deflect the blame onto women who have views that are 'grounded in fact and law' will untarnished their reputation.

In response to their hand flapping virtue signally both my hands have 2 fingers stuck up. VV.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 20:30

Theeyeballsinthesky · 25/04/2026 19:42

Hasn't their chief exec been there 38 years in various roles? I doubt he has any thoughts outside the scope bubble and with a trustee who has been and still might be chair of a civil service lgbtq plus network, it's clear that the board are unlikely to suggest to him he's in the wrong

we'll find the lawyers but it's the most pathetic mealy mouthed 'oh ffs I guess we have to let you perform' ever

It's this one:

https://nitter.net/cag8109/status/2048023168078479736#m

ElenOfTheWays · 25/04/2026 20:30

Daisypod · 25/04/2026 19:15

Just seen on Facebook that Scope have backed down and the choir can perform!

Is that a first? I'm used to it going the other way. Don't think I've ever seen this.

Well flabber my gast!

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 20:32

Well. Less backed down than re stated their transactivism and bias alongside grudging and reluctant steps taken to avoid legal action.

ElenOfTheWays · 25/04/2026 20:36

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 20:32

Well. Less backed down than re stated their transactivism and bias alongside grudging and reluctant steps taken to avoid legal action.

Edited

Yes. I hadn't read the statement when I posted.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 25/04/2026 20:39

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 20:30

I knew about him but it's Tom seddon the trustee who was hugely influential in the lgbtq civil service network id be concerned about too. Between them they'll have had no problem convincing the ceo to beclown himself the way he has and then issue that sulky non apology

sadly Janet's choir is down to 2 as the other members don't want to perform - unfucking surprisingly

Conxis · 25/04/2026 20:54

I hope the choir all contact the Scope care team for support!

SCOPEismisogynistic · 25/04/2026 20:54

singthing · 25/04/2026 19:29

Tl;dr for the statement:

"our lawyers handed my arse to me on a plate."

And the Mumsnet hoard started sharing some facts with us. Oh and canceling direct debits.

Money talks!

DeadBug · 25/04/2026 20:57

It's shocking that people's donations go to wards paying the salaries of these people.

The 'apology' statement is actually worse than the original.

singthing · 25/04/2026 20:57

socialdilemmawhattodo · 25/04/2026 20:18

Just what I've said at home to my cats: fuck off mate. What a prick. Who is their legal firm advising? Would laugh if it was NC or CE.

Not long ago I was on a call with lawyers and senior management about an issue about 20% of the gravity and reach of this one (different topic). Just to write a brief message outlining the correct position took a solid hour+ of drafting, editing and rewriting to be sure every angle was covered properly and legally.

This statement feels like the lawyers wrote it with minimal input and just told them to get it fucking posted before things get even worse. He or she was probably still in their nice clothes having been pulled away from dinner with friends too.

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EmpressaurusKitty · 25/04/2026 20:59

Janet’s appealing on X for people to go along & sing with her choir if anyone’s free & in the area.

Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person
DworkinWasRight · 25/04/2026 21:00

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 20:32

Well. Less backed down than re stated their transactivism and bias alongside grudging and reluctant steps taken to avoid legal action.

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I don’t think they will avoid legal action. Having grudgingly reversed their decision about the choir, they have made things much worse for themselves by claiming that Janet holds “highly polarising” views and expresses them in a way that is “alienating”. Both these claims are manifestly untrue and if I were Janet, I wouldn’t let matters lie there.

lcakethereforeIam · 25/04/2026 21:04

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 20:30

If it's possible, if I were Janet I'd be putting in a SAR. I bet there's been messages flying around Scope about her, her views and her choir.

SisterBliss · 25/04/2026 21:06

AlexaStopAlexaNo · 25/04/2026 19:59

I hope everyone who has rescinded their donations DO NOT reinstate them. Scope have been made to do this, they haven’t chosen to.

I completely understand why people are reacting the way they are, and I don’t blame anyone for making their own decisions about donating.

It’s hard to watch what feels like self-inflicted reputational damage, particularly when the likely consequence is reduced income. Fundraising is hard enough at the best times.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/04/2026 21:08

EmpressaurusKitty · 25/04/2026 20:59

Janet’s appealing on X for people to go along & sing with her choir if anyone’s free & in the area.

8 of them have backed out, my sympathy for them has just taken a nose dive, I hope loads of people turn up to replace the cowards.

EmpressaurusKitty · 25/04/2026 21:10

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/04/2026 21:08

8 of them have backed out, my sympathy for them has just taken a nose dive, I hope loads of people turn up to replace the cowards.

Londoners could help by spreading the word?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 21:12

I can understand, no one wants to see the marathon hijacked by a group of black balaclavaed maniacs screaming and shouting with obscene signs and needing police containment to keep them back from the choir. It's not a day about transactivism. Nor do those women need to deal with the searching and doxxing and threats and the rest of the appalling behaviours towards them and their families because they dared to be associated however distantly with a woman who spoke up for women's sex based legal rights.

Better for all to not turn up. Bloody embarrassing for Scope, that's the one plus.

KnottyAuty · 25/04/2026 21:14

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 21:12

I can understand, no one wants to see the marathon hijacked by a group of black balaclavaed maniacs screaming and shouting with obscene signs and needing police containment to keep them back from the choir. It's not a day about transactivism. Nor do those women need to deal with the searching and doxxing and threats and the rest of the appalling behaviours towards them and their families because they dared to be associated however distantly with a woman who spoke up for women's sex based legal rights.

Better for all to not turn up. Bloody embarrassing for Scope, that's the one plus.

It would be great sunlight if the balaclavas did turn up - the BBC would struggle to ignore it with all the coverage they have…

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 21:16

There'd be no planned police management or containment, and we've all seen the work the police need to do at planned women's events, I would not want the publicity at the cost of those women's safety.

Edited to add: and it would be actual risk to safety, as opposed to performative wittering. At the very least it could be frightening and distressing, that wasn't what they signed up for. This was supposed to be a day of support and celebration. Trashed by transactivism like everything else they get involved with.

Mmmnotsure · 25/04/2026 21:19

EmpressaurusKitty · 25/04/2026 20:59

Janet’s appealing on X for people to go along & sing with her choir if anyone’s free & in the area.

Not sure this is the best move. Her choir members may have been supporting her by not singing - as well as quite reasonably feeling unable to do so in the circs - and this looks like bypassing them.

I hope she talked to them about this. I hope she's not doing it for Scope after all. There is a limit to #bekind.

If she does turn up with singers, I wouldn't be surprised if they are drowned out in the usual way by a group of TRAs.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 25/04/2026 21:22

Mmmnotsure · 25/04/2026 21:19

Not sure this is the best move. Her choir members may have been supporting her by not singing - as well as quite reasonably feeling unable to do so in the circs - and this looks like bypassing them.

I hope she talked to them about this. I hope she's not doing it for Scope after all. There is a limit to #bekind.

If she does turn up with singers, I wouldn't be surprised if they are drowned out in the usual way by a group of TRAs.

her posts on x say that she phoned them all & nearly all of them said they no longer felt comfortable or safe to perform which is totally understandable in the circumstances

FrippEnos · 25/04/2026 21:30

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/04/2026 21:08

8 of them have backed out, my sympathy for them has just taken a nose dive, I hope loads of people turn up to replace the cowards.

Why are they "cowards"?
We have all seen what the TRAs are capable of, and Scope has put a target on the back of the choir and quite honestly should be putting out a statement supporting the choir.
But I suspect that the trans lobby will be out in force quietly and calmly "communicating" their point (sarcasm)

SCOPEismisogynistic · 25/04/2026 21:31

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 25/04/2026 20:32

Well. Less backed down than re stated their transactivism and bias alongside grudging and reluctant steps taken to avoid legal action.

Edited

Way better than it used to be. A day and suddenly a reverse ferret - even with a nothing to see here you’re all still transphobes.

Even if their lawyers told them to back down - it’s brilliant that strong women stood strong, took court cases, won and won again and now the backdown takes days rather than total silence and plodding on loving the trans rainbow.

SCOPEismisogynistic · 25/04/2026 21:35

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/04/2026 21:08

8 of them have backed out, my sympathy for them has just taken a nose dive, I hope loads of people turn up to replace the cowards.

Those 8 women aren’t cowards. Because of bullying misogynistic men they were publically called out for being transphobic and non-binaryphobic and twin-spiritphobic 😬 etc etc.

They’d be easily identified and targeted by men who have attacked women before many times.

Scope painted them as a target and gave the dog whistle to the trans mafia - go get the transphobes. They put these women at risk.

SCOPEismisogynistic · 25/04/2026 21:42

BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 19:27

John McLachlan, CEO of Scope said:
“On reflection, we would like to restore our invitation to the Choir to attend the marathon tomorrow and perform for runners if they choose to do so.

“We accept that the choir as a group does not promote a specific viewpoint and that the performance in itself doesn’t undermine our values.

“This decision has been made without prejudice and reflects our appreciation of the right of individuals to hold protected beliefs under the Equality Act 2010.
“Gender-critical views are highly polarising and we are sensitive to the fact that for some of our valued members, supporters and colleagues, gender-critical beliefs may be deeply upsetting and alienating.

“We are here to support anyone who has been affected and we will provide additional support through our supporter care team. We are looking forward to celebrating our runners and supporters at the London Marathon.”

https://www.scope.org.uk/news-and-stories/scope-s-statement-on-choir-performer-decision

Hey John,

Did you know trans ideology, cognitive dissonance of forcing pronouns and ideas that you can change your sex are highly polarizing.

Are you sensitive to the fact that for some of your valued members, supporters and colleagues, delusional sex change beliefs may be deeply upsetting and alienating. In a world where sex is binary, those expressing a non-binary identity are alienating all those with modicum of common sense. If you polled them you’d find that most of your end users belief that sex is binary and gender identity is a personal belief that shouldn’t breach the human rights of others.

Think again John - this charity not delivering to its stated objects because of some trans rights activists - this means you are failing in your directors duties. Be wary John - you’re in a dangerous spot.