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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shelagh Fogarty LBC

37 replies

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/04/2026 15:40

Has just interviewed Susan Smith of FWS about the EHRC guidance. Great interview and she's taking calls now.
Shelagh is unashamedly gender critical but I think this is the strongest I've ever heard her on the subject.
Listen again on the LBC app from just after 3pm.
Shelagh gets dreadful abuse from TRAs on twiX and in real life, so please show her some love and let LBC know too.

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 16/04/2026 15:48

Thanks Bore. Shelagh's great on this. I don't normally listen to LBC but I tune in when she's talking about this subject so I'll definitely listen later.

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/04/2026 15:56

There's a man on now telling her she's wrong!

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CucumberCool · 16/04/2026 15:57

Of course there is! 🙄 She is brilliant 🤩

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 16/04/2026 16:04

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/04/2026 15:56

There's a man on now telling her she's wrong!

I hope she tells him 'Prove me wrong'

BoreOfWhabylon · 16/04/2026 16:05

She was, as always, kind but firm.

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ItsCoolForCats · 16/04/2026 16:17

I will catch up with this later, thanks OP. Sheila is great on this issue, as is Tom Swarbrick.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 16/04/2026 16:22

Whenever I listen to LBC I'm taken aback at how much more 'free' the presenters sound when it comes to what they can say, because it's not the BBC!

RubyTrees · 16/04/2026 17:28

Sheila: "The law did not change this time a year ago in that Supreme Court ruling. They literally reminded us all of what it was."

She couldn't have put it any simpler.

RottieAida · 16/04/2026 17:39

Thank you OP I love Shelagh but couldn’t listen today, I will listen on catch up. She is awesome and will (extremely professionally and fluently) take no shit on the topic. Likewise Tom so forgive his stance on pensions he’s forever banging on about.

RubyTrees · 16/04/2026 17:44

Be prepared to bang your head against the wall while listening to a caller named Will.

ProudAmberTurtle · 16/04/2026 17:50

Ian Payne was sneering about it this morning - I get the impression he really doesn't like women.

James O'Brien, on the other hand, actively despises women. Every time I've heard him in the last year he immediately launches into a tirade about either Kemi Badenoch or Liz Truss

ItsCoolForCats · 16/04/2026 18:23

Sheila and Susan were great. And Sheila wasn't taking any shit from Will 😄 He can fuck right off with his "there will be big scary trans men in the women's toilets now so my trans daughter (son) should be allowed to carry on using women's facilities" nonsense.

Zapx · 16/04/2026 18:41

Shelagh was great!

RottieAida · 16/04/2026 21:00

RubyTrees · 16/04/2026 17:44

Be prepared to bang your head against the wall while listening to a caller named Will.

Oh god yes you were right but I loved how she handled it.

I often wonder if Shelagh might be on here!

hholiday · 18/04/2026 04:03

When I was a minion at the BBC years ago, Shelagh was amazing on pay. She travelled around the country, talking to women in all the regions about their conditions and pay and, for the first time, we were able to share stories about the appalling behaviour of (predominantly male) BBC managers and the fact so many of us saw stalled pay and progression compared with male colleagues. It doesn't surprise me at all that she's still firmly and articulately on the side of women battling injustice. Or that she found those values incompatible with working at the BBC.

SoSadSoSadSoSad · 18/04/2026 04:24

ProudAmberTurtle · 16/04/2026 17:50

Ian Payne was sneering about it this morning - I get the impression he really doesn't like women.

James O'Brien, on the other hand, actively despises women. Every time I've heard him in the last year he immediately launches into a tirade about either Kemi Badenoch or Liz Truss

That’s because Kemi Badenoch and Liz Truss are twats.

Do I hate women too because I think that?

EllaMozarella · 18/04/2026 05:55

SoSadSoSadSoSad · 18/04/2026 04:24

That’s because Kemi Badenoch and Liz Truss are twats.

Do I hate women too because I think that?

Agree.

And James O’Brien definitely does not hate women 😊

NeelyOHara · 18/04/2026 06:15

James O Brian hates women like he breathes, you can actually hear his tone shift to contempt, when it’s a woman who’s dared call into his show.
I don’t listen anymore as it was so blatant.

RottieAida · 18/04/2026 07:05

hholiday · 18/04/2026 04:03

When I was a minion at the BBC years ago, Shelagh was amazing on pay. She travelled around the country, talking to women in all the regions about their conditions and pay and, for the first time, we were able to share stories about the appalling behaviour of (predominantly male) BBC managers and the fact so many of us saw stalled pay and progression compared with male colleagues. It doesn't surprise me at all that she's still firmly and articulately on the side of women battling injustice. Or that she found those values incompatible with working at the BBC.

Thanks for sharing that. I’m not surprised to be honest. She is definitely on the side of women, but fairness generally. I listen and have learned a lot from her shows about topics that I know little or haven’t experienced. I see her as a true champion for women, girls, and fairness. I would love to know if she’s amongst us here!

DoffTinHat · 18/04/2026 08:10

Is there some way to listen to this now, does anyone know please? I downloaded the Global Player app but can only see Friday’s show on there.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/04/2026 08:17

DoffTinHat · 18/04/2026 08:10

Is there some way to listen to this now, does anyone know please? I downloaded the Global Player app but can only see Friday’s show on there.

It is not the most intuitive player!

Click on the app
Dismiss the Cash Call advert
Click on schedules and catch up - at the moment it's under Matthew Wrights face
Scroll down and click LBC
Click Thursday and find Shelaghs show
Fast forward to near the end of the show

Just to add: you don't have to download it unless you want to. Just press the play button to play directly from your phone. It says available for 5 days

DoffTinHat · 18/04/2026 08:20

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/04/2026 08:17

It is not the most intuitive player!

Click on the app
Dismiss the Cash Call advert
Click on schedules and catch up - at the moment it's under Matthew Wrights face
Scroll down and click LBC
Click Thursday and find Shelaghs show
Fast forward to near the end of the show

Just to add: you don't have to download it unless you want to. Just press the play button to play directly from your phone. It says available for 5 days

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Ah thanks! I shall have a try.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/04/2026 08:24

Give Baroness Falkner a listen on women's hour yesterday on bbc sounds if you haven't already
She's inspiring

MarieDeGournay · 18/04/2026 10:15

I remember millennia ago when she was on BBC 5 radio, one of her male co-presenters said something that was a bit of a double entendre - it was unintentional, and nothing very bad, but Shelagh immediately told him to stop it at once, she had five brothers and could make mincemeat of him in no time if he carried on like that😁
I get the impression that she is still motivated by that spirit!

RottieAida · 18/04/2026 10:18

I also remember her on Radio 5 @MarieDeGournay