I couldn't find the actual link so here it is:
For those thinking that Joyce was caught in a rare moment of exasperation, you'll be disappointed to note that it was the host Ian Collins.
The quote:
"But first this - judges no longer have to use a defendant's chosen gender after a Supreme Court ruling that says sex is based on biology. The ruling of course states non-binary identities don't have legal status and courts can reject preferred pronouns. By the way, spoiler alert, non-binary is just an invented thing that somebody came up with. You won't find a biologist that can put their name to that. Um so courts can reject preferred pronouns."
TalkTV (especially Julia Hartley-brewer, but other as well) loves trying to bait Helen, but she never takes it.