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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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SirChenjins · 24/03/2026 13:22

Grassstorm · 24/03/2026 13:14

What I find really interesting is that trans identified girls (natal girls for clarity) attending the school are given separate private spaces/toilets if I remember correctly from @SingleSexSpacesInSchools... They are not joining boys toilets and changing rooms. As if some glaring obvious elements of safeguarding can't be ignored... An if that works for trans identified girls without serious human rights concerns, why not for trans identified boys??

Wait - what?? TIFs are given their own space but the TIMs aren't and get to use the girls' spaces? Make that make sense Confused

solerolover · 24/03/2026 13:38

SJaneS · 24/03/2026 08:32

‘Vicious threats’ and ‘’you and your ilk’ @borntobequiet have absolutely nothing to do with me and really says far more about you than it does anything about me. You may be so separated from any sense of normality that a read through the unpleasantness, malice and spite in this section read like sense and reason to you. But it’s not for me or for many other cis women like me. What’s the NION petition signage up to now? 80,000?

A 15 year old can understand that hating on a minority is wrong sure. It is. They won’t understand the full complexity of this argument no.

This is nothing but a father stoked by hate and a real saviour complex using his kid to try & push through an agenda. And it really is something else!

Your "sense of normality" is skewed to say the least. It's not hateful for girls to be uncomfortable with being forced to strip in front of boys.

Nothing will ever* *justify bypassing the consent of female people, the sooner you understand that, the better.

PersonIrresponsible · 24/03/2026 13:42

Sticking to the "Gardner" theme ..

See wot I did

Mixed sex changing rooms in a Brighton secondary school - part 3 - we're really cooking now
OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 24/03/2026 13:52

Helleofabore · 24/03/2026 12:09

"This is nothing but a father stoked by hate and a real saviour complex using his kid to try & push through an agenda. And it really is something else!"

You are quite correct sjane, it IS really something other than how you have characterised it.

It is not a father stoked by hate and a saviour complex. It is a father who has identified a safeguarding failure in the school, has tried to discuss it with the school over a long period of time with no progress and has had to resort to a court case.

The 'agenda' is keeping schools to the safeguarding principles that they should have at the very minimum and that they simply have ignored.

The hate and 'real saviour complex' seems to be coming from you.

Always worth remembering that the Third Reich intentionally recruited this age group for soldiers to commit the absolute worst atrocities, based on psychological observation that soldiers older than this had the life experience, self confidence, critical thinking and maturity to say no, and refuse. The kids could be easily hyped up, made to believe whatever you wanted, and go and run your fanatical plan in certainty that they were doing the right thing.

If generation Z really is this awful and intolerant then obviously all the EDI and emotional coaching and careful nurture and training in school by emotively anedoting people and their awards and flags and special celebratory days has not only been a waste of time and money, but has made things worse. Obviously needs binning. Fast. And a return to 1970s style approaches which apparently worked a lot better.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/03/2026 13:53

Is Good Law Project really acting for the school as they state? I would have thought any legal case against a state school would come under the council and their lawyers?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 24/03/2026 13:54

I sincerely hope they are; GLP in court on this will be absolute gold.

theilltemperedamateur · 24/03/2026 14:06

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/03/2026 13:53

Is Good Law Project really acting for the school as they state? I would have thought any legal case against a state school would come under the council and their lawyers?

"Good Law Project is acting for a school facing a legal challenge from a parent represented by Paul Conrathe – the lawyer of choice for these challenges. We will publish our response to his PAP letter in accordance with our transparency principles as soon as we are able to."

I cannot wait 🙂

88MullahsonZoom · 24/03/2026 14:56

Wonder if they will respond to his PAP letter with a pap letter? snort.

ProfPerformativeBewildermentOBE · 24/03/2026 16:03

Oh, this gets better and better. JoMo and his pointy dance fingers! I will block my diary and stock up on 🍿

Is there an allotment in need of seeds? Payday today - already planted for Faye RC and Fiona vs the Union, but would also like to support this if possible?

MsGreying · 24/03/2026 16:53

"the emperor has no clothes on, and his dick is showing."

This is it.
The emperor has been nude for some time and it's time to make him put his clothes back on.

ThreeWordHarpy · 24/03/2026 16:57

If GLP really are taking instruction from the school and/or the LA then hopefully it will be a straightforward case for OP because history shows that JM is not capable of neither understanding the law nor putting together a coherent legal position on an alternate view.

I will be astounded though if GLP are doing anything other than inserting themselves into this situation for the usual grifting reasons. Surely to goodness the school/LA will have their own preferred lawyers and thus a degree of accountability over them? I mean sticking with the in-house team didn’t do much for NHS Fife, but that’s what organisations do isn’t it?

PersonIrresponsible · 24/03/2026 16:59

Surely they won't be using the glorified tax account to represent them. I mean his track record isn't great.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 24/03/2026 17:01

Oh the things I know.

Hello to those infiltrators watching this thread 👋Yes you.

One day we will be able to speak clearly about this case. For now we stick to what's in the press release and the GB News article. Annoyingly, as I have opinions.

I just read out the first few pages of congratulations and appreciation of my daughter, to her directly. It really moved her and made a difference to how she feels about this. She remains really worried about the possible fallout so all of your kind, supportive messages has really helped her a lot.

Gardening. So many people have asked and I continue to be just blown away hard working people would dip into their pockets to support this case. Right now, we are ok. However I reserve the option of coming back to this if the school decide to fight it as I am given to understand Judicial Reviews can cost a pretty penny.

GLP. Yes they are truly representing the school and Council, as per their own social media.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/03/2026 17:10

I'm sure OP that key people have been watching your threads from the outset. Hopefully it's been an education to them to discover that so many parents & responsible adults are furious at how predatory values are being implemented in a school
I'm sure they're looking forward to explaining why they decided to abandon safeguarding children in favour of dismantling single sex changing rooms etc.

I'm also certain that, just like the threat upthread, they'll do a lot to try to provoke an "intemperate" response from you online to throw at you in court Anything to detract from exposure of what they've done.

DrBlackbird · 24/03/2026 17:11

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 24/03/2026 11:40

Women try guilt tripping and lean heavily on be kind, but rarely threats.

I think this is naïve, I found the behaviours directed at Kathleen Stock very threatening and most of the one's responsible for that were women, as are the one's who have been threatening the 3 Sex Realist students in Cambridge. I think mob violence is gender neutral myself.

I think Dear Jane is as she described a 'cis'women, I wondering however how old she is, it wouldn't surprise me if she turned out to be a schoolgirl herself. The playground mentality she displayed with her threats certainly speaks to a very immature person.

I have a feeling mini me SSSiS has the fortitude to tell people like her to go shove it. Brave girl's do. 😁👏

I was thinking the same ie the poster most likely female but I think she is a woman any a mother. Someone who genuinely believes that they’re being ‘tolerant’ and whose identity rests on that belief. Yet it seems tolerance is being modelled only in one direction.

And these outraged drive by scolders never stop to read or engage with any of the replies. It’s a shame because there is much to consider.

LewisFerrux · 24/03/2026 17:12

GLP. Yes they are truly representing the school and Council, as per their own social media.

#SadTimes. For the school, that is. Damn good news for you though @SingleSexSpacesInSchools

moto748e · 24/03/2026 17:15

I'm also certain that, just like the threat upthread, they'll do a lot to try to provoke an "intemperate" response from you online to throw at you in court Anything to detract from exposure of what they've done.

This is the sort of people you are dealing with here. Absolutely appalling. I hope they will get their come-uppance.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 24/03/2026 17:17

MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/03/2026 17:10

I'm sure OP that key people have been watching your threads from the outset. Hopefully it's been an education to them to discover that so many parents & responsible adults are furious at how predatory values are being implemented in a school
I'm sure they're looking forward to explaining why they decided to abandon safeguarding children in favour of dismantling single sex changing rooms etc.

I'm also certain that, just like the threat upthread, they'll do a lot to try to provoke an "intemperate" response from you online to throw at you in court Anything to detract from exposure of what they've done.

Edited

Oh the things I know...

...But cannot share.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 24/03/2026 17:17

LewisFerrux · 24/03/2026 17:12

GLP. Yes they are truly representing the school and Council, as per their own social media.

#SadTimes. For the school, that is. Damn good news for you though @SingleSexSpacesInSchools

This is the consensus opinion, absolutely :)

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moto748e · 24/03/2026 17:18

That's fine, OP. Hopefully at least some of it will come out in the wash later.

theilltemperedamateur · 24/03/2026 17:18

PersonIrresponsible · 24/03/2026 16:59

Surely they won't be using the glorified tax account to represent them. I mean his track record isn't great.

I expect he will have Leigh Day do the donkey work like always. I see that Conrathe Gardner acted for Sex Matters (Intervener) last time, so it will be a heartwarming reunion. Is it too much to hope for the same judge? 🤔

ThreeWordHarpy · 24/03/2026 17:24

GLP. Yes they are truly representing the school and Council, as per their own social media

Fuck. Ing. Hell.

My ghast is completely flabbered.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 24/03/2026 17:31

ThreeWordHarpy · 24/03/2026 17:24

GLP. Yes they are truly representing the school and Council, as per their own social media

Fuck. Ing. Hell.

My ghast is completely flabbered.

Maybe it's not surprising but illuminating, it shows how completely taken over the school is by this batshittery. It's no longer a place of education but an outright grooming centre for GI, that's why when threaten with legal action they turn to the legal arm of the cult for assistance. 🤔

I bet Scientology work in the same way.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 24/03/2026 17:41

theilltemperedamateur · 24/03/2026 14:06

"Good Law Project is acting for a school facing a legal challenge from a parent represented by Paul Conrathe – the lawyer of choice for these challenges. We will publish our response to his PAP letter in accordance with our transparency principles as soon as we are able to."

I cannot wait 🙂

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I don't actually see how this is legal since the GLP have been quite clearly politically active in this area. I thought schools had to be politically neutral - I mean obviously this school is not in so many ways but using an activist as a lawyer seems a step too far.

I also wonder how it's being funded if GLP are acting for them and how they're justifying using this no doubt overly expensive option rather than a more modestly priced and neutral or safeguarding specialist lawyer.

Of course any family lawyer who knows about safeguarding probably wouldn't touch it with a barge pole - so there is that - maybe GLP are the only lawyers who don't immediately say 'you're breaking the law you need to admit wrongdoing and settle'.

ThreeWordHarpy · 24/03/2026 17:47

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 24/03/2026 17:31

Maybe it's not surprising but illuminating, it shows how completely taken over the school is by this batshittery. It's no longer a place of education but an outright grooming centre for GI, that's why when threaten with legal action they turn to the legal arm of the cult for assistance. 🤔

I bet Scientology work in the same way.

I’m not sure about the grooming aspect, but from my perspective it clearly says that the grown-ups are not in charge of picking suitable legal representation in this matter.

The only time I’ve ever needed legal representation has been for conveyancing and Im sure I’ve done far more due dilligence* than the school have here.

*not a lot - is the firm solvent, do they answer the phone, do they sound like they know what they’re talking about, have I heard any good or bad stories about them from people I know.