Mixed sex changing rooms in a Brighton secondary school - part 3 - we're really cooking now

[SingleSexSpacesInSchools]

Hello friends.

I'll let the press do the talking...

https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-school-court-changing-rooms

And what message exactly does this send to girls in the care of these people about their equality? Their humanity?

If adults decide a boy is very special and lovely, they claim the power to insist that girls must take their clothes off in front of him.

My DCs school used to give books at prize giving.

Interesting prizes for the boys at SSSIS's school. What do the girls get?

They want your daughter to share a bathroom with this creature:
Bearded trans woman jailed for "grotesque" dirty nappies obsession. | UK | News | Express.co.uk https://share.google/vYITG5yKwITKQzmKK

Oh dear what a sad bloke. Clearly very mentally unwell and a public menace.

Interesting that the judge is quoted as saying:
“your conduct is clearly anti-social and extremely distressing to people who are affected by it”.

I wonder why this isn’t acknowledged in many more of these cases? Oxford Uni’s Biggus Tittus springs to mind …

But it most certainly applies to the girls in SSIS’s school

They were referred to as "she" throughout the article and the police will record it as a female crime.

They get the relief of not being ostracised for being a bigot when they quietly accept boys being in their spaces and don't make a fuss.

We all know how belonging is massively important to teenagers. That is why it is so hard for girls in schools like this to assert themselves (and additionally many cannot because they have been indoctrinated to not even see there is a problem). Hence why adults need to do the safeguarding, which this school is summarily failing too do.

Which is where @SingleSexSpacesInSchools and his DD come in. Standing up for the greater good at no small personal cost. Bravo and brava!

I recognise the OP cannot provide some details until the case comes to court, but continue to wish him and his daughter all the best.

Hi @SingleSexSpacesInSchools
just seen your updates on GLP.

I don’t know if you know the GLPs position on Keeping Children Safe in Education. I may have had a moan about it on one or two threads today, particularly his pompous dismissal of accessible toilets.

so I copied a relevant part of my post here:

Gender neutral has no regulated design - it’s not a term used in legislation or regulation. It made a brief appearance for a few years in Department of Education design guidelines and this year has disappeared! No mention of gender in design. It was daft - the guidance had a unisex toilet by reception and a recommendation for a gender neutral toilet on every floor.

A unisex toilet follows the universal design. It is private and resistant to sound. Toilet facilities provided in a fully enclosed room which contains a water-closet and washbasin and hand-drying facilities, and is intended for individual use by persons of either sex. It is the design required by the 1992 Health and Safety legislation for a toilet used by both sexes, and for building regs and British Standards.

That’s the design Jolyon wants in schools, ironically in his submission for Keeping Children Safe in Education. In (toilet) design terms, ‘facilities’ means sinks, toilets and hand dryer:
‘Contrary to how the guidance is framed, schools are under no obligation to provide any single-sex facilities whatsoever. It would be entirely lawful and legitimate for a school to provide toilet and changing facilities entirely in self-enclosed lockable rooms, designed for use by one pupil at a time. Indeed, where this is practicable, this may be the most sophisticated way of addressing the needs of all pupils. The guidance should make this clear.’

He’s wrong, of course. Forget about the legislation, regulations, guidance, loss of the amount of provision, safety and health, has he any idea how much that ‘sophisticated’ way would cost schools? He’s out of touch.
This is a quote from a pupil using a Jolyon preferred toilet design- from someone who was really keen to use a ‘gender neutral’ (their words) rather than single sex design:
‘I consider everything in the third floor bathroom a biohazard. Almost every time I make the mistake of going in, I leave trying to purge my mind of the horrors I just witnessed. Whether it is people having sex, poop smeared on the walls, or the toilet being clogged with an entire roll of toilet paper,
horrible things have happened in that bathroom’.
Vaping and drugs were specialities on the other floors.

Jolyon, meet reality.

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Here is the link to the Good Law Project response to KCSIE:

https://goodlawproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/KCSIE-Consultation-Response.pdf

You probably have seen it, but thought you may want to know if not.

It's really as much about inculcating in young minds the idea that separate toilet facilities for males and females is some reactionary, old-fashioned idea.

As is privacy, dignity and equality of access for women, and tolerating victims of trauma and assault without cruelty. And saying no to particular sorts of men when they claim it makes them feel sad.

Who was that interesting poster the other week who tried to claim that women only minded about being raped because of historic notions?

You can see why mothers are the absolute bane of this political movement's lives. Particularly the middle aged ones who have critical thinking and are running out of fucks.

If anybody here is running out of fucks - here, I'll share my last one with you

Thanks, Marie. I've got nothing.

TBF better that than having seen it and then being totally unable to see it!

@SexRealistic thank you so much for the phrase “wispy haired giblets” that I now cannot unread 😂

I have passed this on verbatim, thanks so much

@Keeptoiletssafe - do you know anything about about NI legislation on loos? Don’t want to derail the thread…. Let me know so I can DM you

https://www.buildingcontrol-ni.com/assets/pdf/TechnicalBookletR2012.pdf
p.57 Traditional separate sex sanitary accommodation, which includes such points as: Those who are ambulant disabled people should have the opportunity to
use a water closet compartment within any separate sex toilet washroom.

This is for non-domestic premises but may not be for schools or further education - you would have to check. Feel free to DM.

Edit: how much this is enforced is up to Northern Ireland. Obviously adhering to this document is advisable but I don’t know if there are penalties for not.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/nisr/1993/37/contents/made

Slightly different law applies to toilets in NI (1993 Reg’s rather than 1992 Reg’s in GB). Better go read up on the differences and enforcement.

Yes the wording is the same for point 20. If you look up the difference in definition to room and cubicle you will see it can be argued cubicles should be single sex. I will DM you with more info.

I cannot sleep and have stumbled across this thread.

As a mother of a pre teen girl and also a good friend to a post operative trans female with a GRC (hopefully that description isn’t offensive) I expected to be torn reading this, however the OPs simple statement about Penises not belonging in girls changing rooms sums it up perfectly.

I just hope that at the school on a day to day basis the other pupils realise this isn’t about the boy involved in this but simply about protecting girls. I really hope your DD isn’t the subject of daily grief.

i shall be following this thread and take my hat off to you OP for the grit you have shown.

Just checking…

Do you think that men who cut their penises off should be allowed to display their flayed penis faking like as a vagina in the girls changing room?

More coverage of mixed sex toilets from GBNEWS on this link https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/2050985877845754316

it’s the Protect and Teach women. Am getting in touch direct

Thank you - as I hope you’ve seen it really is all about males in female spaces, not at all to do with trans identity.

Just checking, did you intentionally write that in a way to be goady?

FWIW I don’t think any person is ‘allowed’ to display their genitals whether surgically altered or not.

No I was checking whether you think post op its ok. No men in the women’s. No women in the men’s.