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Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) removed from IWD event by police

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ImTooMessyButImTooClean · 06/03/2026 18:02

https://x.com/theposieparker/status/2029940578528473283?s=46&t=p6GESSn09HWHVXYgTLIbJg

“My removal from the international women’s day event by the police.

I had been asking women’s organisations whether their services were for women only. This caused alarm and distress and the venue, claimed to be privately owned when it’s owned by the council, asked me to leave for asking questions.

I have footage of every interaction that I will upload later so you can see what those questions were and you can judge for yourself.”

Kellie-Jay Keen (@ThePosieParker) on X

My removal from the international women’s day event by the police. I had been asking women’s organisations whether their services were for women only. This caused alarm and distress and the venue, claimed to be privately owned when it’s owned by the...

https://x.com/theposieparker/status/2029940578528473283?s=46&t=p6GESSn09HWHVXYgTLIbJg

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ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 00:29

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I think, if asked, MNHQ would not agree my few posts on this thread could be defined as disruptive and disrespectful. At least, I haven’t accused others of being male or a plopper. As for alter ego - you are aware usernames can’t be changed on the same thread, aren’t you?

MyAmpleSheep · 10/03/2026 00:33

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ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 00:35

Helleofabore · 09/03/2026 16:45

She did ! In 2019.

I mean, MyAmpleSheep, on this board we have been seeing the exact same accusations for years now. And they really have just been replicated across the internet by people who should know better but never investigated.

I went through the Pesutto dossier at the time and looked into every accusation and posted on the Deeming threads.

So, 7 years ago? Much can happen in the political landscape in 7 years, let alone a personal one. Her politics has changed outwardly in that timeframe.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 10/03/2026 00:42

Hedgehogforshort · 09/03/2026 19:12

I watched a video in which she said that unions were all mysoginistic, and that it was a waste of time joining the Gala, because of this or words to that effect. Which i do not disagree with, totally

i posted on your thread about the gala, and PM you under a different name, as i am going this year and will try and find LWS if they have a contingency, they can walk under or behind our miners wives banner for protection.

I was not having a go.

I watched a video in which she said that unions were all misogynistic, and that it was a waste of time joining the Gala, because of this or words to that effect.

That rings a bell so I understand now what you were getting at. She has actually been very supportive and paid for the materials for the first banner we took, which was a Standing For Women banner in a traditional style (photo attached).

The Unison head-butting incident was probably due to the fact that we also had banners supporting the Darlington Nurses - a banner for each nurse, naming and supporting her. If the woman who assaulted the LWS member was not the sister of "Rose" Henderson then she was her doppelgänger.

We have chatted to union groups every year and some have been very supportive. It was very encouraging that the all-male delegation for the Prison Officers Association knew that men were being incarcerated with women and were 100% opposed.

and PM you under a different name

I remember ❤️

i am going this year and will try and find LWS if they have a contingency

If you are a LWS member we will be advertising in the "Nest" where and when we will be meeting and we will have a LWS Banner to help you to find us 👍

Photo attached of some of us at the IWD Suffragette March at Beamish Museum on Sunday with the LWS North East Banner.

they can walk under or behind our miners wives banner for protection.

That is brilliant! Not that we need protection but that a women's group would actually support us and want to be associated with us. When you attend, you will see what I mean.

As usual, we are up against the massed ranks of the female, left-wing #bekind brigade who are carrying banners. A stark contrast to women lining the streets watching the procession, who cheer us on, hold out their hands to take our leaflets and some have even come through the barriers to march with us.

It is a very visible demonstration of how far removed the trade union elite and organisations of left-wing women are from public sentiment on this issue.

If the miners wives are with us that is a very big deal and would be an important signal to the Left that they might actually pay attention to. Possibly in a good way although they are quite capable of noticing and, as a result, branding them bigots.

That said, the Gala is still a few months away and there is enough time yet for your group to be subverted by a "concerned" drag queen or a woman who has a "trans kid" in her family 🫣

Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) removed from IWD event by police
Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) removed from IWD event by police
ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 00:44

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Seems unnecessarily messy to negotiate when it’s just an anonymous chat forum.

IwantToRetire · 10/03/2026 02:03

did the title of this thread get changed?

did it always have the bit aka

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MyAmpleSheep · 10/03/2026 03:00

ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 00:44

Seems unnecessarily messy to negotiate when it’s just an anonymous chat forum.

Oh, I agree. Just pointing out that your defence that you hadn't contributed to this thread under two different names because the forum software doesn't let you doesn't hold a lot of weight. A simple claim of "I really couldn't be bothered" is more credible, in my eyes. As you were.

MyAmpleSheep · 10/03/2026 03:05

ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 00:35

So, 7 years ago? Much can happen in the political landscape in 7 years, let alone a personal one. Her politics has changed outwardly in that timeframe.

What's the validity period on clear and transparent rejection of white supremacy and racism? How often does it need to be renewed to be acceptable? Not asking for a precise answer, of course, but a general idea of your feeling in terms of every how many weeks, months or years this sort of thing needs to be repeated would be helpful. Ta.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 10/03/2026 03:27

MyAmpleSheep · 10/03/2026 03:05

What's the validity period on clear and transparent rejection of white supremacy and racism? How often does it need to be renewed to be acceptable? Not asking for a precise answer, of course, but a general idea of your feeling in terms of every how many weeks, months or years this sort of thing needs to be repeated would be helpful. Ta.

Ideally, first thing every morning and last thing every night, straight after brushing your teeth. Only way to make sure that you don't turn into a racist, white supremacist in your sleep.

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 04:35

MissScarletInTheBedroom · 09/03/2026 11:43

What do you think counts as transphobia, and when do you think MN started to be captured by anti-trans ideology?

Please do answer as I'm genuinely interested. The more engagement the better, regardless of the tone of that engagement.

Define 'anti trans ideology'.

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 04:57

ItsNotOrwell · 09/03/2026 10:37

Hmm - I saw at least one that wasn’t. I wouldn’t say it called for for her removal from the event, but it was far from polite.

Oh it's back to tone-policing women I see. She didn't speak in a soft dulcet tone? She was assertive. Heaven forbid a woman or feminist be assertive. It's enough to beg for your rights, you must do it plaintively in a soft submissive tone or else you are not 'polite' like all good women should be.

FMD sometimes it really is like being in the 1940s still on here.

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 04:59

Gloriia · 09/03/2026 13:13

Yes what on earth did she do that 'wasn't polite'?! Surely there must be footage of this display of impoliteness?

From what I saw she was calm, concise, not remotely sarky as I'd have been. In fact the only impolite thing was calling the police for a woman daring to ask about the provision of women only spaces. The police! What an absolute waste of resources.

For some on here, assertiveness is 'impolite'. They really can't see their internalised misogyny.

ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 05:33

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 04:57

Oh it's back to tone-policing women I see. She didn't speak in a soft dulcet tone? She was assertive. Heaven forbid a woman or feminist be assertive. It's enough to beg for your rights, you must do it plaintively in a soft submissive tone or else you are not 'polite' like all good women should be.

FMD sometimes it really is like being in the 1940s still on here.

FYI, I said “polite” as the poster I was responding to had used that word. I don’t care if she is polite or not, but doing things that bother others in a venue (such as filming them when they don’t wish to be filmed) could land anyone in trouble.

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 05:34

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ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 05:40

MyAmpleSheep · 10/03/2026 03:05

What's the validity period on clear and transparent rejection of white supremacy and racism? How often does it need to be renewed to be acceptable? Not asking for a precise answer, of course, but a general idea of your feeling in terms of every how many weeks, months or years this sort of thing needs to be repeated would be helpful. Ta.

Not sure really. I’m only aware that many people have had their minds changed on political issues quite significantly over the last few years, steered primarily by online algorithms. Who creates the content to do so then? Worth considering.

ThatBlackCat · 10/03/2026 05:41

Waheymum · 09/03/2026 21:26

So what are people supposed to say? I've met transwomen that are estranged from their families because the family didn't affirm their desired gender. I've asked transpeople how they know they're trans and have either been told I can't possibly understand so they're not going to try to explain, or that they know in their hearts.

Look; either you lied to us on this thread about what KJK said to him, or he lied to you about what KJK said to him.

One or the other. The fact that you could lie and smear a woman so easily, or that he could lie to you, con you and manipulate you so easily to believe his scheming lying, is bad. If he lied to you, do you realise how manipulative he is and that he is playing you for a fool? That he is not this innocent 'vulnerable' act he portrays?

Which is it? Please answer.

ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 05:48

MyAmpleSheep · 10/03/2026 03:00

Oh, I agree. Just pointing out that your defence that you hadn't contributed to this thread under two different names because the forum software doesn't let you doesn't hold a lot of weight. A simple claim of "I really couldn't be bothered" is more credible, in my eyes. As you were.

I don’t care if I’m credible to you or not. Simply because two or so (2) posters out of the 30 or 40 contributors to this thread do not have the exact same world view as you, your immediate thought is …. they must be the same person! Sorry to disappoint you.

Shedmistress · 10/03/2026 05:56

ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 05:33

FYI, I said “polite” as the poster I was responding to had used that word. I don’t care if she is polite or not, but doing things that bother others in a venue (such as filming them when they don’t wish to be filmed) could land anyone in trouble.

Was there any reports of anyone asking not to be filmed?
Usually if people are filming in a venue where people don't want to be filmed the normal reaction is to ask them to stop filming, not call the cops for them to be manhandled out and force everyone they are with out as well.

ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 06:23

Shedmistress · 10/03/2026 05:56

Was there any reports of anyone asking not to be filmed?
Usually if people are filming in a venue where people don't want to be filmed the normal reaction is to ask them to stop filming, not call the cops for them to be manhandled out and force everyone they are with out as well.

In this video (embedded in one of KJK’s tweets, all her questions are answered politely and happily until she brings up ‘men with penises’ towards the end, throwing off the interviewee who then states KJK can’t share what she she has filmed. KJK then turns her back with an “Oh, I can, I absolutely can,” and points to the neighbouring police stand - “Ask them.”

A later video shows another woman from the venue asking KJK to leave “as they’ve had complaints - you’ve been upsetting people,” KJK refuses and says to call the police. This then occurred.

Shedmistress · 10/03/2026 06:29

ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 06:23

In this video (embedded in one of KJK’s tweets, all her questions are answered politely and happily until she brings up ‘men with penises’ towards the end, throwing off the interviewee who then states KJK can’t share what she she has filmed. KJK then turns her back with an “Oh, I can, I absolutely can,” and points to the neighbouring police stand - “Ask them.”

A later video shows another woman from the venue asking KJK to leave “as they’ve had complaints - you’ve been upsetting people,” KJK refuses and says to call the police. This then occurred.

But she was happy to be filmed until the topic of men came up?

Waheymum · 10/03/2026 07:19

Helleofabore · 09/03/2026 21:54

For a start, you shouldn’t make false representations as to what KJK said to your friend.

And your friend should not be using any female single sex provisions. It is not hateful to point that out directly to him.

He was standing in front of the courthouse where the Darlington nurses case was being heard. A highly relevant case for male access to female single sex provisions.

That's where the bus stop is!

Helleofabore · 10/03/2026 07:32

ItsNotOrwell · 10/03/2026 00:35

So, 7 years ago? Much can happen in the political landscape in 7 years, let alone a personal one. Her politics has changed outwardly in that timeframe.

You seem to have misssd the point of the relevance of the date. Not to worry, it was not a post that was addressed to you.

The point being that a poster used the interview to support her being a white nationalist simply for doing the interview. The poster has done little research of their own despite crowing about their research skills.

Has her politics changed? I don’t believe you have established that at all in your posts. You have made accusations without providing support for those accusations.

Helleofabore · 10/03/2026 07:35

Waheymum · 10/03/2026 07:19

That's where the bus stop is!

And she still didn’t tell him the things you said she did. Meaning you falsely represented the interaction. Either he misrepresented it or you chose to misrepresent it. Either way you accused her of saying something she did not say.

soupycustard · 10/03/2026 08:20

EdithStourton · 09/03/2026 19:28

Speaking for myself, I am not anti trans people. I want them to have fulfilled and happy lives, with proper access to benefits, employment, etc etc.

Transphobia is hating trans people for being trans people and wishing them ill.

However, I am not happy with the damage that trans ideology has done to women's rights and to children. In no particular order:
Natal men in women's sports - they have a massive unfair advantage even when on oestrogen etc;
Natal men in women's prisons - far too dangerous and a massive loophole;
Natal men in women toilets, changing rooms etc - again, a massive loophole though which dangerous men or men with unpleasant fetishes can contentedly stroll;
Natal men in women's groups and clubs - their presence will shift the tone;
The impact on the minds and bodies of children and vulnerable young adults, with irreversible surgeries and drugs with irreversible impacts being given to very young people who would never, for example, have been considered old enough to make decisions about sterilisation.

All those concerns are not transphobia. It is not transphobic to be suspicious of men who wish to be in women's spaces (because how can you tell who is 'true trans' and who has nefarious intentions?). Resenting TRAs who try to intrude into female spaces isn't transphobic either.

Women need women-only spaces. We are physically weaker than men (hence separate provision in sports, prisons, toilets). Many of us have been sexually assaulted, and would much prefer to change, or go to the loo, well away from the male gaze. We want to to talk about medical issues amongst ourselves. And so on.

MN has not been 'captured by anti-trans ideology'.
It's a space where women who share the concerns that I have outlined above can get together to discuss them. For a long time, we had to be careful what we said, or our posts were deleted or we got booted. It was a conversation that it was very hard to have. Women were pilloried and doxxed for trying to have it. The left-wing press completely betrayed women, and we haven't forgotten.

And you probably know all that, so you've effectively wasted my time.

This echoes my views too. And you haven't wasted your time typing it out because hopefully people reading it who may believe the lie about 'terfs' being 'transphobic' will understand that that is a lie.
Other than the actual - small number - of genuine TRAs, I think the vast majority who go along with this misogyny do so because they have had the wool pulled over their eyes by lies and obfuscation.

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