Rhode Island - Another crossdressing male mass shooter

[fromorbit]

Mourn the victims.

Robert K. Dorgan ("Roberta Esposito") killed two people and critically injured three others.

Rhode Island hockey shooter ID’d as transgender father Robert Dorgan
The suspected shooter sat near the back of the stands on the home team’s side during the game before he moved to the front and opened fire at four family members and one family friend, the outlet reported.
The student’s mother and sibling were among the dead, multiple sources told the outlet. The mother of Dorgan’s child died inside Lynch Arena, while the sibling died at the hospital, according to the sources.

https://nypost.com/2026/02/16/us-news/robert-dorgan-idd-as-rhode-island-hockey-shooter/

He was active on social media threatening violence and attacking women who knew biology.

More details on the background

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15565931/Hockey-shooting-Rhode-Island-Robert-Dorgan-transgender.html

A lot of the coverage seems to be calling him a guy this time.

Stop this madness!

Obviously one must suspect Dorgan was inspired by the Tumbler ridge killer these type of evil men imitate each other.

How long are we going to let this happen?

"But society in general certainly lacks the lens to understand his sexualised, 'woman face' as abusive or offensive."

Cannot be overstated.

I think 'accepting people for who they are while holding them to ethical standards' is good.

The problem here is forced acceptance of people for what they are not while also abandoning ethical standards..

'Deeply personal' misogyny and narc rage?

Fucksake he deserves no sympathy.

Its waffle, though. 'Who they are' - what does it even mean?

Maybe tolerance is a better word? I'm really talking about people who would previously have been described as 'marching to the beat of their own drum', and I think it's good to understand this because many young people are drawn to 'inclusivity' because they genuinely are 'kind'. I don't think that is bad.

So acceptance of girls who do not conform to gender norms, but as they really are - girls, not boys.

That contrasts with e.g. co-opting other people into a fetish or forcing people to participate in a fantasy.

Thanks Feral.

The fact that he is still being searched for leads me to think that the police have suspicions and are being professional about how they conduct this case.

The new reporting where the person being discussed is being referred to as if the writer and audience don't know that person's sex leads to having to reread sentences to ensure the correct interpretation.

The more I see neutral pronouns and language being used when the sex of a person is known or can be very clearly identified, it is reinforcing in my mind that this also is harmful as it creates ambiguity and obfuscation where there should be none.

Dr Bowdler lives!

Woman face

This cannot be said enough, this needs repeating over and over and needs to be just as inapprorpriate as black face now is.

Yes whose ethical standards though, because dare we stand on the apparent 'wrong side' of those standards and this is what you have now. We apparently are on the wrong side.

Its not just small businesses, its big organisations like thr NHS, its also governments like Canada and global governing bodies like the EU parliament.

Whaaaat?!?! Urgh

At first glance I thought the bystanders had reached for the gun and shot themselves 🙄

Women (and girls) have not 'conformed' to sex norms ( I wont use the word gender) for nearly 100 years and further back

When I was growing up an androgynous look (as one example) was everywhere, for males and females, wear what you want, do what you want, embark on what career you want.

Its only in the last 15 years or so that girls apparently are seen as odd or needing to 'be a boy' if they dont conform to sex stereotypes. This is something thats been created in order to support the ideology, not the other way round.

Maybe you could explain this please ?

Dr Thomas Bowdler published an expurgated version of Shakespeare by taking out anything (he considered) rude. About 1800 or so. Very much foreshadowed Victorian prudery. Refers to censorship.

And gave us the verb bowdlerise.

Yeah, call me a cynic but I'm not convinced.

It's entirely possible, of course. It doesn't stop these men being full of rage.

But it's the whole bodybuilding thing that's making me wonder. Would a person that into gym work reduce their testosterone by removing its source? Although I note he was saying he takes testosterone.

So who knows

Yes. I know who he was. I don't understand the relevance to the statement, sorry. I must be feeling thick headed today.

Maybe he kept his testes? Hate to think, regardless!

No worries, it's the prim correction of pronouns by the virtue signallers that gets on my wick !

So, the comment was directed at me? Because I expressed confusion caused by the use of them / their in media when the media outlets had confirmation that the shooter was male? I am just checking again what the relevance is.

I did wonder about that.

I don't really want to go looking for the tweet (and even if I found it there is no guarantee that it is truthful) but from memory it referred to the size of a hole.

Well you've also got those men who keep their penis and testicles, and have an additional cavity created which they claim is a vagina.

A whole smorgasbord of genitalia, apparently.

How anyone could ever, possibly, in a million, zillion years think this issue isn't entirely down to sex is beyond me

I think we are at cross purposes. I wasn't commenting on anything you said at all, more on the context of the discussion ie about media sources obfuscating truth to serve some moralistic agenda. I was reminded of how Shakespeare's language was hallowed out for the sake of an academic with an agenda. What is being printed seems like Bowdlerisation to me. I wasn't being particular, I was being general.

I hope this makes sense. If not , all I can say is I've done my best!

Ahh.

Thank you. That is how I initially read it but then I thought about it and could thought it could be applied to my comment rather than what the media has been doing.

I do have a head cold so am fuzzy thinking today.