Antifa kill man protecting women's rights demo in France

[ArabellaScott]

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/horror-in-lyon-conservative-activist-in-coma-after-antifa-attack/

Not much detail on this yet - article says he was in a coma but reports on X say that he has died.

I saw this--horrendous.

https://www.lefigaro.fr/lyon/l-extreme-gauche-tue-apres-le-lynchage-d-un-militant-nationaliste-a-lyon-la-droite-appelle-a-juguler-la-menace-antifa-20260213

'De nombreuses personnalités politiques des Républicains, du RN et de Reconquête! ont réagi à l’agression violente ayant visé un jeune nationaliste à Lyon jeudi soir. Le maire écologiste de Lyon, Grégory Doucet, a également apporté son soutien à la victime.

'De nombreuses personnalités politiques à droite se sont émues de la violente agression d’un militant nationaliste à Lyon, survenue jeudi soir en marge d’une conférence de Rima Hassan à l’IEP de Lyon, devant laquelle le collectif Némésis avait déployé une banderole pour dénoncer «l’islamo-gauchisme». Quentin, 23 ans, faisait partie d’un groupe informel de militants venus former un service d’ordre bénévole pour protéger les manifestantes. Violemment pris à partie en quittant les lieux, il a été hospitalisé dans la soirée et son pronostic vital est engagé.'

'Nemesis' are the relevant conservative/rightwing feminist group.

The 'antifascists' once again appear to be the Blackshirts Mark II.

https://www.instagram.com/collectif.nemesis

This is the women's rights group, for reference.

It's worth reading widely from a number of sources about Nemesis Collectif, not just what they say about themselves - I'm not on insta so couldn't see this.

I think 'controversial' and 'problematic' apply - they seem like one of those groups that currently find women's rights strategically useful, but one wonders how deep the commitment goes..

Absolutely horrendous attack on that man by Antifa.

Looks like you need an Instagram account to view.

There are several ways to view IG without an account. This is one of them:

https://flufi.me/profile/collectif.nemesis

I think most browsers can do automatic translation now so that you can opt to view the text translated into English 👍

There seems to be a problem common to the UK, various US states, and various European countries where some groups have reason to believe that if they carry out violent acts, because their political views are considered to be on the right side of history, they can expect to be indulged and not face accountability.

I agree. Like the Palestine Action hero who broke a policewoman’s back with a sledgehammer. Nice to be ‘on the right side of history’.

True, but that's more or less the history of the world, isn't it?
Put on an army uniform, kill civilians, get away with it by lying for decades, because the uniform puts you on the right side of somebody's history...

So much hate and division in the world today. It's very sad to see.

I'll be amazed if anyone ever sees prison time over this.

They remind of those masked mobs who have terrorised women's meetings in this country.

That was exactly what it reminded me of, Esma.

Just a correction - it seems the man is brain dead, not dead.

www.lefigaro.fr/lyon/qui-est-quentin-d-le-jeune-militant-nationaliste-en-etat-de-mort-cerebrale-apres-avoir-ete-lynche-a-lyon-20260213

Don’t even get me started on the ‘feminists’ who have applauded him not being convicted.

If you strip it all back to the basics -

Hitting someone with a sledgehammer and breaking their spine is wrong
Beating up someone until they are braindead is wrong.

I think this is what the last few years of this progressive left politics has taught me. Strip away the lies, obfuscation, whether history (or God) is 'on your side' or how the victim somehow 'deserved it' and look at basic/first principles.

Yep. And while its always good to read widely from a wide variety of sources and angles, I am far less trusting of second hand sources. So, for example, Wiki calls Nemesis Collectiv 'far right' - this may or may not be true, but I sure as fuck won't take Wiki assertions at face value.

This takes me back to when I first became alarmed about being on the Left: all around me I was seeing people with a sense of moral righteousness getting off on feeling superior to others. It was that that started to push me away. But I didn't see where that would go, it would end up with some people feeling they could be righteous in being violent to those they see as being wrong, and thus morally inferior and fair game.

“The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.”
Aldhous Huxley

I also recall Julie Bindel saying that this is a gift to lefty men who have to perform supporting women to stay in the approved of tribe and who can no longer use the words they'd like to use. But now they have terf and can feel self righteous about it.

There will as ever probably be much dancing about on the head of various pins discussing the Peoples Front of Judea or the Judean Peoples Front while a man lies brain dead in hospital, anything to avoid the simple fact that they are guilty of everything they accuse others of, dehumanising humans so they can be violent.

This is exactly right. It's horrifying. I also "left" the Left when I saw their gloating and superiority over others they perceived to be "beneath them". It started in academic circles for me, back in 2001/2002 where I saw the level of disdain to those they considered "thick" and continued on and came to a head during the Brexit vote. I was still reading the Guardian at that point and never mind the contemptuous articles written by the "betters" about those who voted for Brexit, the below the line comments were absolutely awful. Everyone who had voted for Brexit was an extremely thick, evil, bigoted "gammon". No nuance, no understanding.

Then the basic rights of women came under attack. The cover up and denial of reality the Guardian newspaper did about the various sexual attacks in Cologne in 2015 was really upsetting, then of course the thread of anti Semitism running through various articles as well, particularly in the odious Owen Jones' articles.

I was uncomfortable then and it grew as it became clear that the new way to demonstrate their superior credentials became the trans stuff and the vitriol against the women (and some men) who disagreed. Awful.

The fact that these people have left a man brain-dead are celebrating this and others lauding them because he had "the wrong views" to me is exactly the same as the facsists in the 1930s. See also the breaking of a women's back with a sledgehammer. On another thread there was a horrible article minimising it by a Scottish journalist called Craig Murray. Odious man, but of course it's because Palestine activism good, anyone who gets in the way of that, bad. It's simple to him, and fuck the poor policewoman with a broken spine. These men (and it nearly always is men although the women who cheer it on from the Left also disgust me) are no better than the fascists in 1930s Germany. Say hello to the new boss. Same as the old boss....

I know a dyed in the wool left person who sneers at me and refuses to believe I come from a working class background because half of my family became home owners. Not possible to be working class and do that in his eyes. The fact that my great grandparents were the rural poor and were thrown out of a tied house when they became too old and infirm to be of use to the landowner doesn't seem to count for much. Neither does the fact that their time was owned, they were expected to turn out at all hours of night and day if required. My grandfather vowed he would never be in the same position as his parents, left school at 12 and managed to buy a house. Also made a point of working in places where his time was in the contract.
Other rural poor grandparents used to collect bird eggs and catch squirrels just to have enought to eat. Yet I somehow come from a privileged background.
I am just so bloody fed up with the lot of them, material reality seems to have left the labour movement. I'm not surprised by the misogyny, anyone who thinks all left wing men were in favour of women having equal pay and rights is bonkers.
My dad paid lip service to it, but when it came to domestic labour my granny got a washing machine before my mum did.

An update: https://thecatholicherald.com/article/young-french-traditional-catholic-activist-murdered-during-clashes-in-lyon

The news around this story is all over the place at the moment but this article looks like the most reliable I've seen.

Yes, this.

I think that very possibly for some it's the chance of violence that is the attraction. Like the thing from Dune that says it's not that power corrupts but that it attracts the corruptible. The chance of violence and thereby feeling powerful and righteous must be a heady brew for some. So much better than being a football hooligan, but actually just being another garden variety of hooligan.