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GLP v EHRC judgement is coming tomorrow

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DownhillTeaTray · 12/02/2026 14:44

Listing in the Administrative Court for tomorrow not before 11am: read out of the judgment in our challenge to the EHRC Interim Guidance.

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.org/post/3meo6ow7ow22k

Jolyon Maugham KC (@goodlawproject.org)

Listing in the Administrative Court for tomorrow not before 11am: read out of the judgment in our challenge to the EHRC Interim Guidance.

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.org/post/3meo6ow7ow22k

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Shortshriftandlethal · 13/02/2026 11:12

OhBuggerandArse · 13/02/2026 11:05

This looks bad to me.

I wouldn't take that mangled interpretation as fact.

potpourree · 13/02/2026 11:13

If GLP have been dismissed, what has changed (presumably nothing) and what are they claiming has changed/been clarified?

Surely if they were dismissed they didn't get what they wanted?

OhBuggerandArse · 13/02/2026 11:13

ItsCoolForCats · 13/02/2026 11:11

I don't think it is. Aren't they just saying they can provide unisex facilities if they want? Will.need to see the actual judgement (rather than GLP propaganda) but the crucial issue is whether people are permitted to use opposite sex facilities. The EHRC has always maintained that it's fine to provide unisex facilities (if these are single occupancy) so this is nothing new.

Maugham (I know, I know) is interpreting it as single sex facilities open to both women and transwomen and excluding other men.

[61] …In a case where the provision of separate lavatories labelled male and female was materially similar in terms of the extent of the provision, location, and so on, I consider there would, in principle, be scope for a strong argument that a rule or practice that permitted trans women to use the “the female” lavatory but required other biological men to use the male lavatory would comprise different but not less favourable treatment on grounds of sex…
This means that service providers may lawfully provide, for example, women’s toilets which both cis and trans women are permitted to use, but from which cis men are still excluded.

Beowulfa · 13/02/2026 11:13

Can we just assume GLP (having lost again) are spouting deliberatel,y manipulatively false bollocks, because that's what they do?

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/02/2026 11:14

ItsCoolForCats · 13/02/2026 11:06

Isn't this pretty much what the EHRC guidance says? Yet the GLP are trying to spin this as a win for them?

Yes, the judgement suggest that additional unisex facilities can be provided to ensure that nobody is excluded.

AnSolas · 13/02/2026 11:14

senua · 13/02/2026 11:06

this does not mean additional, inclusive facilities cannot be provided, and that appropriate provision should be made for trans employees to avoid discrimination.
Does this mean Third Spaces? Bring it on.

Does this mean Third Fourth 👀Spaces?

Bring it on.👍

I would like to think that disabiliy provision would benefit from this but built design will just roll the two over into one unit

potpourree · 13/02/2026 11:15

ItsCoolForCats · 13/02/2026 11:12

Didn't it say labelled as for women and men? That is, unisex.

And such facilities may simply be labelled for ‘men’ and ‘women’.

He's disingenuously put them in separate quotations suggesting separate labels. If it means "mixed sex" then that's a new level of dishonesty.

He really does a massive disservice to trans people by choosing to be dishonest all the time when he could be clear.

maltravers · 13/02/2026 11:15

Maugham said the judgement was “grim” I think? So even he doesn’t present it as a win. Although now he’s spinning it, it seems.

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/02/2026 11:16

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 13/02/2026 11:11

That’s my reading of it too. I think GLP are misinterpreting the ruling here.

Of course they are...the whole project relies on obfuscation and confusion.

fanOfBen · 13/02/2026 11:16

OhBuggerandArse · 13/02/2026 11:13

Maugham (I know, I know) is interpreting it as single sex facilities open to both women and transwomen and excluding other men.

[61] …In a case where the provision of separate lavatories labelled male and female was materially similar in terms of the extent of the provision, location, and so on, I consider there would, in principle, be scope for a strong argument that a rule or practice that permitted trans women to use the “the female” lavatory but required other biological men to use the male lavatory would comprise different but not less favourable treatment on grounds of sex…
This means that service providers may lawfully provide, for example, women’s toilets which both cis and trans women are permitted to use, but from which cis men are still excluded.

Is that quote from this judgement? Link please?

AnSolas · 13/02/2026 11:17

EasternStandard · 13/02/2026 11:03

What’s the silver lining he mentions, anyone know?

Crowd funding with a 10% off the top cut?

NotBadConsidering · 13/02/2026 11:17

potpourree · 13/02/2026 11:15

And such facilities may simply be labelled for ‘men’ and ‘women’.

He's disingenuously put them in separate quotations suggesting separate labels. If it means "mixed sex" then that's a new level of dishonesty.

He really does a massive disservice to trans people by choosing to be dishonest all the time when he could be clear.

Men, and women

Men and women

Oxford commas should be compulsory when blatant fibbers are reading things.

theilltemperedamateur · 13/02/2026 11:17

OhBuggerandArse · 13/02/2026 11:13

Maugham (I know, I know) is interpreting it as single sex facilities open to both women and transwomen and excluding other men.

[61] …In a case where the provision of separate lavatories labelled male and female was materially similar in terms of the extent of the provision, location, and so on, I consider there would, in principle, be scope for a strong argument that a rule or practice that permitted trans women to use the “the female” lavatory but required other biological men to use the male lavatory would comprise different but not less favourable treatment on grounds of sex…
This means that service providers may lawfully provide, for example, women’s toilets which both cis and trans women are permitted to use, but from which cis men are still excluded.

😱 user name checks out!

He must have ignored the evidence that mixed-sex facilities are indirect sex-discrimination.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/02/2026 11:18

Telegraph reporting that employers can ban transwomen from women's spaces:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/02/13/bosses-can-ban-trans-women-from-female-toilets/

GreenUp · 13/02/2026 11:19

He's saying "the EHRC’s exclusionary draft Code of Practice does not accurately reflect the law and the Minister will have to send it back to be rewritten."

So the guidance will be rewritten? That's not great.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 13/02/2026 11:19

Beowulfa · 13/02/2026 11:13

Can we just assume GLP (having lost again) are spouting deliberatel,y manipulatively false bollocks, because that's what they do?

Yup!

SerendipityJane · 13/02/2026 11:19

NotBadConsidering · 13/02/2026 11:17

Men, and women

Men and women

Oxford commas should be compulsory when blatant fibbers are reading things.

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OhBuggerandArse · 13/02/2026 11:19

fanOfBen · 13/02/2026 11:16

Is that quote from this judgement? Link please?

Just Maugham's FAQs, so treat with caution! https://goodlawproject.org/resource/faqs-trans-inclusion-after-the-high-court-decision-on-the-ehrcs-interim-guidance/

ProfPerformativeBewildermentOBE · 13/02/2026 11:19

Here is the judgment via the GLP website

It was shared by a PP on p4 (forgot who, sorry!)

Cailleach1 · 13/02/2026 11:20

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 14:51

People meanly said he looked like Epstein.

That is what I thought when I saw the photo. It’s the jaw or something.

MoistVonL · 13/02/2026 11:20

Bugger, I forgot to press send on that because I was so busy telling DH how comprehensively Jolyon got his arse handed to him by the judge.

DrudgeJedd · 13/02/2026 11:20

Rare moment of self awareness 😁

GLP v EHRC judgement is coming tomorrow
ItsCoolForCats · 13/02/2026 11:20

Well we know how TRAs feel about the perfectly reasonable compromise of third/fourth spaces (we have fourth spaces at my workplace that are literal genocide apparently) yet they are celebrating this judgement on Reddit as a win 🤔

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