Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada

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Looks like it was a man in a dress. Another tragedy. More lives lost. Boys with violent tendencies cannot be told they are actually girls. The violent background of trans activism is a problem.

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BREAKING

The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang.

Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023.

Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning how to shoot rifles when he was just a child. Many guns were kept in the family's residence.

Facebook posts from his mother indicate he may have struggled with behavioral issues, including violent tendencies, from a very young age.

Strang fatally shot 10 people prior to taking his own life.

In 2021, Strang launched a YouTube channel that was promoted by his mother on her Facebook. The channel was dedicated to "hunting, self-reliance, guns" and his other interests. At some point, Strang deleted the content on the channel and changed his handle from "Jesse Boy" to "JessJessUwU." The only remaining post on the channel was made 6 months ago and reads "I've been pretty, um, aimless."

Theres pictures of two wildly different individuals circulating. Its fairly obvious. I haven't mentioned what the subreddit being mention for a reason. I've said to lets see where this is going. I suspect we are going to see some incelly shite appearing sooner rather than later though, simply because the pattern of mass shootings across the board is fairly consistent. If its correct, it will blow up fairly rapidly though and is going to look embarassing for authorities.

I get the impression the Mail is definitely gearing up for that as it is.

“Female in a dress with brown hair” was definitely channelling the “Welsh Choirboy” euphemism vibes.

Beeb is now using “Presumed attacker”.

I've not RTFT yet, so am sure others have said this, but honestly just wanted to post it again out of helpless anger and frustration. Rant incoming. I read about this in The Guardian this morning, assumed the shooter was male, of course, then saw the line, "A police active shooter alert sent to people in the area described the suspect as 'female in a dress with brown hair'". My first thought: they must mean a man; it's virtually unheard of for a woman to do something like this. My second: stop being so cynical, you're a biased TERF - they'd never risk lives by putting out an inaccurate warning like that, using the word female, of all things... My third thought: But 'in a dress'?! why the heck say, 'in a dress'" My fourth: Stop it, Cattiette. Not every one of these instances will be a trans woman. And yet I did keep wondering - and guess what?

How the fucketty fuck (and you know I hardly ever swear) can we be living in a world in which using the wrong pronoun is utter anathema, yet misleading citizens in a context like this is ethical? In which it's seen as destructively damaging to the mental health of a criminal to use "she", yet stealing every single word women have left with which to name themselves and gifting it to their oppressors, all the while gaslighting women that they're capable of similar violence to those oppressors, is The Right Thing To Do. And the victims' perspective and realities is clearly an irrelevance. Who cares who or what they saw coming for them? Who cares that they died because this was a male, because of male violence? Who cares about their truth? And my right, to read about this and understand the implication, that trans women do show the same patterns of offending as men, and females are safer to me? Other people's - Canadian women's - right to know that, and make decisions about their safety accordingly in Canada's 'trans-inclusive' spaces? Simply our right to read the fucking news and focus on the truth and the tragedy, and not the politics, of it? And also, what about genuinely vulnerable trans people's right not to be associated with mendacity, not to be caught up in this growing tidal wave of suspicion and anxiety about their identities?

It's so, so, so, so upsetting.

So upsetting.

How the fucketty fuck (and you know I hardly ever swear) can we be living in a world in which using the wrong pronoun is utter anathema, yet misleading citizens in a context like this is ethical?

Because....

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

And, if you haven't already, read Pronouns are Rohypnol by Barra Kerr - available on FPFW.

The parents; he shot his mother and his sister dead at home (according to another thread on MN).

So they lost their lives and his Dad will be dealing with the devastation of events.

@MyThreeWords I live in Scotland and I've seen similar happening here.
The 'Named Person' scheme (meant to mean one named person in charge of vulnerable children so no 'buck passing' a great idea in theory) but no training given to head teachers who were supposed to do this & parents cut out of information (any one but a parent could be a named person of course).

The 'hate speech' bill. Again, a good impulse but became a 'snitchers charter' and horribly badly thought through. The Trans issue in Schools, in society, in womens prisons - a complete mess up here. 4WomenScotland have done good work. I cannot say about assisted dying as I do not know enough about it.

So should you, judging by your horrible user name.

And bad spelling

Please just leave this very unfortunate individual to their ranting. Zero point engaging, they’re both mentally unstable and a bit sad.

And you should've started.

Sigh

someone got lost on their way to Reddit

Well exactly. It's such an odd turn of phrase that I immediately thought the same as the rest of you.

At the moment, the name and identity of the perpetrator have yet to be officially released by the authorities and police, and it's the middle of the night in western Canada so that might take a while. I would assume they would call a presser in the morning Canada time so late afternoon here. Will be interesting to see how the media reporting shifts here.

@Youractuallyjustretarded

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“That alert described a "female in a dress with brown hair" - but the person's name or gender are yet to be publicly released.”

How can the BBC publish such utter nonsense? Do they not have editors or proofreaders or even just a work experience person giving it the once over.

I just came straight here after reading the BBC article. It said that a warning was put out about a “female in a dress” and also that they hadn’t released details of the shooters gender etc. I knew straight away it would be a male identifying as trans.

They’re not doing themselves any favours.

Do you think some people will eventually wake up? There are just constant stories of male crimes committed by “trans women”, you think that might make people question if they are really women like they’re supposed to believe.

I think it is fair.
The BBC are factually reporting what the alert said, but staying very neutral on everything else.
The BBC and responsible news outlets have to not report things without fact checking, and tend not to report things that haven't been officially announced.

I disagree. I think we need to see them in the context of online radicalisation.

While mental health factors undoubtably underlie the dissatisfaction and alienation from peers that starts them down the path, we can't ignore that it isn't just "The Islamists" and "The Far Right" who are being radicalised into anger and hate.

I read about this in The Guardian this morning, assumed the shooter was male, of course, then saw the line, "A police active shooter alert sent to people in the area described the suspect as 'female in a dress with brown hair'"

I looked at the Guardian's news feed this morning and read this (their bold type);

07.35 GMT
Female identified as suspect in shooting - report
Police are still trying to piece together what led to the horrific shooting and the suspect’s motives.
Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) Supt Ken Floyd told reporters that investigators had identified a female suspect but would not release a name, the Associated Press news agency reported.
Floyd added that the attacker’s motive remained unclear and that police are still investigating how the victims are connected to the suspect.
Earlier police said a suspect appeared to have died of a “self-inflicted injury”.

I bloody knew it!! (sorry late to the party) As soon as I read 'female, in a dress...'.

fuck sake.

Have NRFT but have just seen this by Nick Wallis

https://nitter.poast.org/nickwallis/status/2021500624085631264#m

I remember the judges comments in the court case that brought down the Named Person scheme. They said that the intention was benign but the implementation was totalitarian. Very strong words from a judge.

Absolutely.

Christ what a horrific thing to do and my heart goes out to all of the families who have lost their children. As soon as I saw the news wording last night along with everyone else I knew what this description meant.

Why can’t we just report the news accurately? It’s so insulting to women and so unhealthy for everyone.

You've got to wonder about the impact on mental health of fucking around with hormones in an adolesecent, in an experimental and totally non evidence of benefit way. And whether that - what is in my opinion medical malpractice - could have an impact on the propensity to commit crimes, including such horrific ones as this.

And at what point the families of those who lost their lives can sue the doctors involved. Because frankly, if it were me, I would want to.

Oh god. I just saw this headline on the BBC website and read as far as initial reports of the shooter as being 'a female in a dress with brown hair' and my heart sunk even lower.

Surely this is trans-id as a symptom or jigsaw piece of a complex mental pathology, rather than as the 'reason' a disaffected trans youth enacted yet another mass shooting. But I'm expecting a lot of brow-beating online about 'trans kids' being perpetually misunderstood, bullied, pushed into desperation.