Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada

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Looks like it was a man in a dress. Another tragedy. More lives lost. Boys with violent tendencies cannot be told they are actually girls. The violent background of trans activism is a problem.

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BREAKING

The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang.

Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023.

Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning how to shoot rifles when he was just a child. Many guns were kept in the family's residence.

Facebook posts from his mother indicate he may have struggled with behavioral issues, including violent tendencies, from a very young age.

Strang fatally shot 10 people prior to taking his own life.

In 2021, Strang launched a YouTube channel that was promoted by his mother on her Facebook. The channel was dedicated to "hunting, self-reliance, guns" and his other interests. At some point, Strang deleted the content on the channel and changed his handle from "Jesse Boy" to "JessJessUwU." The only remaining post on the channel was made 6 months ago and reads "I've been pretty, um, aimless."

Well, most people haven’t adopted any credence in gender being real as opposed to sex. Sex is real and immutable. Gender (as in an andopted identity context) has no more reality than someone saying they’re a ‘Goth’. So still fantasy being reported as fact. Certainly when trying to muddy the field with an ideological use of ‘gender’ as if it were ‘sex’.

As to The Supreme Court of the United Kingdom, it doesn’t apply in countries outside of that court’s jurisdiction. It won’t be lending its clarity in this case to the Canadian police or press (or most other countries). More’s the pity on that one.

It's a small community, they know by now the sex of the shooter yet haven't clarified. This is the insidiousness of gender ideology. It affects split second decisions, in a bad way.

The police are used to issuing instructions in this sort of situation, they're trained to. Accuracy should be absolutely the main concern. They could have just said 'shelter in place'. They could have just said 'suspect in a dress'. They know if those instructions are wrong that this is dangerous, probably better than we do. They also know wrong instructions damage trust. Better than we do.

Yet, they haven't corrected initial reports.

Yes we were talking about the BBC. So the ruling should have impacted their reporting

I think this might be the thing that finally makes me stop paying the licence fee.

It's. A. Man.

A male crime.

Because the police haven’t revealed the sex of the attacker? You want the bbc to go off random social media reports before the police have verified it? I get the frustration if it is recorded as a female crime, but this is such a leap. They didn’t say it was a female. They quoted the Canadian police’s initial reports. People are so angry at the bbc when they have no reading comprehension

My post was in response to a post saying that major press outlets have a higher standard of reporting than sm outlets. If this is a male in a dress, whilst being reported as a female in a dress, I fail to see the higher bar of verification.

Certainly, when all over the world, major press outlets do refer to male perpetrators as female. Whatever the reason, that is an outright lie.

The BBC stuck to info from the Canadian Authorities (and note it has been night over there, so not surprising no clarifications). I don't think that is unreasonable.

Social Media often reports things first. But often also reports things incorrectly.

I'm not in the habit of defending the BBC - or any other media organisation - when they pretend that men are women. But in a situation like this, they will always wait to have confirmation from the authorities before they publish the shooter's name or sex. The whole confusion - and the nonsense about "female in a dress" - is the result of the authorities not being honest.

The authorities are delaying the announcement of the shooter's details, probably because they are all in a tizz about the fact that it's a trans-identified male and they can't agree on how to refer to him. It will be interesting to see how the BBC and others report it when they have accurate information.

Shelter in place.

There is an active shooter situation.

Suspect is ca 6' tall, has brown hair and may be wearing a dress.

No lie there, and no need for anyone to start guessing the sex of the person they've spotted coming down the street.

The Daily Mail were doing exactly the same. Its a difficult one, but I think the BBC's past performance really is on show here in terms of trust issues. Theres very different expectations going on even though they are doing similar.

Even now the Mail is still going with

'a suspected female shooter before turning the gun on themselves' (which is still not grammarically right - it should be herself)

The problem is PREVIOUS cases and loss of trust and the persistence in acknowledging the issue at the same as not acknowledging it through these weasel words of coded language to convey the same point.

Its not like we DON'T know this is off. We can read and see it from the language used, but they aren't being direct about it.

This is spot on and needs repeating.

odd how Mumsnet once crucified any of us who dared to say men are never women and now an entire chat is acceptable.
For over a decade we said that this mental health epidemic of confused young men being flattered as stunning and braved and being confirmed in their delusions, would lead to violence and we were branded fascists and Nazis and banned from every platform where it's now totally acceptable - yet none of us were invited back on or received an apology when the rest of the world caught up!

Men are NEVER women. You can't all just say it when you don't want a murderer classed as a woman but then fawn and applaud when it's everywhere else! Men do not belong in women's spaces, not in sports, not in prisons, or hospital wards, not in refuges or clubs. Just because you may want the man you like, you don't get to forego every woman's wishes and celebrate them when you pick and choose.

And for heavens sake, it's about time we all grew up and stop using trans language when we all know that our language functions perfectly well - he was a man who murdered children. He wasn't EVER any type of woman. He was born a man, lived a man however he thought of himself and died a pathetic, weak, fearful, murdering man.
Stop pandering to him even in death!

I think what will happen is that the story will quickly disappear from the BBC and people who haven't paid close attention to this( ie most people) will think that it was a woman.

Like hell we are!

And no we don't, we celebrate Canada Day on July 1st.

@weegielass if accuracy matters, it's important we say what he was. A male. A man. A boy. all dependent on age.
His DNA was male. He was born a male, lived a male and died a pitiful excuse of a male.
He was never any type of female.. No type of girl. No type of woman.
He was a mentally ill deluded male you had delusions affirmed to him and cheered him on to pretend to be something he wasn't.

Call him what he was... He was a male. And a pathetic one at that.

It's been reported everywhere that the killer is a man. His family have confirmed it. The BBC regularly says things like 'there are unconfirmed reports that ... BBC Verify is on the case'.

They could do that here and would look less silly. But they're choosing not to, and when it is confirmed that the killer is a man, they will deliberately avoid using pronouns for him.

If you're happy to fund that then you are the problem.

I think if they said female in an alert they may well have had a report it was a woman. Which would likely be people reporting without a really clear look at the suspect.

However, I also think that by law they are probably not supposed to "misgender" so that could also be the issue.

I don't imagine they were over thinking though, they would have been working quickly. After the mass shooting in Nova Scotia a few years ago they are very quick to put out alerts.

its already pretty much disappeared from the Sky News front page!

That's EXACTLY the BBC playbook.

Report the mass killing, reveal nothing about the gender identity. Then hide the story and provide the update that the killer was trans when it's no longer trending or on the homepage

Because internet gossip doesn't meet the standard the BBC would accept.

Initially they reported what the police said. They have now slightly modified it to say that the information in the alert hasn't been confirmed.

They won't say anything for sure until the Canadian authorities do. That's very standard practice.

They won't say anything for sure until the Canadian authorities do.

I am not normally a betting woman but I would lay good odds that the Canadian authorities will eventually announce that "female name", 17 years old, killed her mother and sibling and nine people at the school before killing herself.

And most of the Canadian and UK media will follow suit.

Lying toads that they are.

ETA: added word for clarity

Unfortunately I think you're right. It will probably take a brave columnist at the Tel or the Times to write something that tells the truth.

I'm sure we all noticed how the BBC, having published several stories about the death of drag queen Darren Meah-Moore mysteriously failed to report on his inquest last week. You know, the inquest that revealed he'd died after being anally penetrated by a dog.

https://news.sky.com/story/what-we-know-about-the-canada-school-shooting-13506104

SkyNews says 'an individual believed to be the gunman'. But it may have been written 'inclusively' as a 'gender neutral' term like 'postman'.

Gunperson, they/them

So true. Why do we accept wholeheartedly that affirming their disordered body issues to anorexics and bulimics is wrong because it is denying that anorexia / bulimia are mental illnesses, whereas affirming someone’s gender confusion by immediately offering irreversible chemical ‘solutions’ and surgery is fine because it is seen as ‘supporting someone be their true self’ not affirming a mental disorder .