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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Epstein and the gender surgeon

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Taytoface · 06/02/2026 08:02

Saw this on Rosin Murphy's X this morning.

A prominent gender surgeon saying the absolute worst of what we have been thinking about the motivations behind the butchering of children.

AGP men were the most obvious perverts benefiting from the trans umbrella, then the men who just like trampling over women's boundaries they were pretty obvious. Then the butcher surgeons and doctors who are simply profiteering, like Webberly and that hideous yeet the teets woman (may she burn in hell).

Now. Here is the darkest corner. The predators of the most extreme deviance, welcomed amongst the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world. The men who would take advantage of confused children. Manipulate them with hormones and surgery to keep them in a perpetually adolescent state for the purposes of sexual gratification of powerful wealthy men.

Epstein and the gender surgeon
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Maryberrysbouffant · 06/02/2026 08:04

I read it this morning, sadly nothing shocks me anymore when it comes to men. Grim.

TheoreticallyAdult · 06/02/2026 08:07

Always men. Never surprising, always disappointing.

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/02/2026 08:10

I wonder what a "trans tendency" in a 3 year old looks like?

Thereinaminute · 06/02/2026 08:10

Whilst I don't doubt the authenticity, I find it almost impossible to believe anyone writes like this. Sickening. They are like aliens to normal people.

THisbackwithavengeance · 06/02/2026 08:17

It’s like everything we thought was ok in the world has suddenly gone. I’m looking around at “normal” men now and wondering if they would do the same given the power, money and opportunity and I suspect they would.

I can’t even get worked up about the orgies and trafficking of models. It’s the abuse of children, babies and the torture. I need to step away from social media for my own sanity. Fucking men.

Shedmistress · 06/02/2026 08:28

When women were being banned on here for pointing these perverts and paedophiles out which was upsetting to the advertisers.

#SadTimes

Igmum · 06/02/2026 08:32

I read it yesterday. It’s been haunting me since. These men are truly evil.

wishingonastar101 · 06/02/2026 08:41

That's chilling.

InconvenientlyMaterial · 06/02/2026 09:22

I just don't understand how there can be such a vast amount of depravity committed by men (of ALL personality types and identities) in public knowledge yet still this drive for dismantling safeguarding continues. And still young women are coerced into supporting it.

Manteiga · 06/02/2026 12:08

That's from Robert Trivers, the (rather famous) biologist. Jess Ting is the gender surgeon connected with Epstein.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 06/02/2026 15:07

I think it reads like something Mengele would have written in his notes as he performed experiments on children and adults in the concentration camps.

lcakethereforeIam · 06/02/2026 15:13

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/02/2026 08:10

I wonder what a "trans tendency" in a 3 year old looks like?

A parent who's easily manipulated, and/or a child abuser, and/or homophobic, and/or desperate for attention.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 06/02/2026 15:22

Isn't it awful. To have what we feared was behind all this confirmed in this way.

So so depressing.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 07/02/2026 02:30

Robert Trivers is not a "gender surgeon" nor any other kind of surgeon:

roberttrivers.com/

This email seems to have been wildly, and widely, misinterpreted.

IMHO what it represents is Robert Trivers explaining the "trans phenomenon" to Epstein. My understanding of the final sentence is that "we" refers not to himself and other "gender surgeons" (because he is not one) but to society or perhaps more specifically to what is happening in America:

"BTW we are now pushing the intervention earlier--so you notice your 3-year old son has trans tendencies, so now you intervene with hormones I would be frightened to do that but who knows?"

More about Trivers:

History and Biology
Robert Trivers

Abstract
This is a brief history of my intellectual life from age 13 to 29 years—and beyond. It encompasses mathematics, US history, and evolutionary biology, especially social theory based on natural selection

Evolutionary Psychology January-March 2022: 1–2
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/14747049211067172

Trivers' "Biosocial Research Foundation" seems to exist only as a funded university research project. It received funding from Jeffrey Epstein amongst others.

This is a long (over 1hr 30min), slow-moving but interesting video of a talk by Robert Trivers about one of his areas of interest: Honour Killings.

Misogyny alert - mildly evident during the presentation and more obvious in the difference between how he responds to male and female students in the Q&A after the presentation.

The Evolutionary Genetics of Honor Killings
5 Dec 2017

Video description:

This lecture, based on a ground-breaking study by one of the greatest evolutionary theorists since Charles Darwin, Robert Trivers, examines the curious case of honor killings, which seem to make no evolutionary sense—why would a father kill his own daughter and thereby eliminate half of his own genes from propagating into the next generation? The answer is to be found in who, exactly, is committing these murders and why.

In short, the vast majority of honor killings are conducted by fathers and uncles who murder young women who have been arranged to marry a first cousin but who have fallen in love with someone outside of the family.

When Dr. Trivers did the genetic analysis he found his answer.

This riveting talk by Dr. Trivers took place in Dr. Michael Shermer’s Skepticism 101 course at Chapman University, filmed on Thursday November 16, 2017.

The lecture was followed by Science Salon # 16: a lively conversation on everything from evolutionary theory and human nature to how to win a knife fight and Trivers’ membership in the Black Panthers. Don’t miss this engaging exchange with one of the most interesting scientists of the past half century.

TheActualQueen · 07/02/2026 05:52

Am I missing something here…. So many abusive men mentioned in these bloody files but only one person in prison. A woman.
Can we start arresting the men now please?

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 07/02/2026 06:12

@POWNewcastleEastWallsend - This email seems to have been wildly, and widely, misinterpreted.

Thanks for the post, I'll give the video a watch when I can, although I'm not confident I'll find Trivers as brilliant as Darwin. 🙄

Bluecrystal2 · 07/02/2026 06:28

WHAT! is this true? My mind is blown.

My sister told me something similar but I dismissed it as a fairy tale. The world is getting sicker by the day.

EmmyFr · 07/02/2026 07:07

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HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 07/02/2026 07:14

Quelle surprise 🙄

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 07/02/2026 07:15

TheActualQueen · 07/02/2026 05:52

Am I missing something here…. So many abusive men mentioned in these bloody files but only one person in prison. A woman.
Can we start arresting the men now please?

Yes. And why are the men’s faces blacked out? Who’s protecting who?

InconvenientlyMaterial · 07/02/2026 07:22

TheActualQueen · 07/02/2026 05:52

Am I missing something here…. So many abusive men mentioned in these bloody files but only one person in prison. A woman.
Can we start arresting the men now please?

Yep just reading about a Norwegian princess and princesses Beatrice and Eugenie. Whole news articles dedicated to the fact they all briefly knew Epstein (the latter when aged about 20). Yeah, sure, awful judgement. I get it.

But also WHAT ABOUT THE ACTUAL MEN WHO WERE TRAFFICKING AND RAPING AND ABUSING AND COLLUDING WITH WHAT EPSTEIN WAS ACTUALLY DOING.

Comtesse · 07/02/2026 08:06

TheActualQueen · 07/02/2026 05:52

Am I missing something here…. So many abusive men mentioned in these bloody files but only one person in prison. A woman.
Can we start arresting the men now please?

Right? I don’t understand it. How can she be the only one who committed a crime?

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 07/02/2026 10:10

Taytoface · 06/02/2026 08:02

Saw this on Rosin Murphy's X this morning.

A prominent gender surgeon saying the absolute worst of what we have been thinking about the motivations behind the butchering of children.

AGP men were the most obvious perverts benefiting from the trans umbrella, then the men who just like trampling over women's boundaries they were pretty obvious. Then the butcher surgeons and doctors who are simply profiteering, like Webberly and that hideous yeet the teets woman (may she burn in hell).

Now. Here is the darkest corner. The predators of the most extreme deviance, welcomed amongst the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world. The men who would take advantage of confused children. Manipulate them with hormones and surgery to keep them in a perpetually adolescent state for the purposes of sexual gratification of powerful wealthy men.

LOL. I suppose this is more fun for Mumsnet than the truth, which is that the vast, vast majority of trans kids aren't even having specialist counselling, won't see a gender clinic before they're 30 & don't have any family support.

Adults projecting their own sick fantasies onto the reality of trans kids lives (which honestly are quite boring & normal) is not science.

Being trans isn't a sexual thing. Lots of trans teens are gay, meaning they fancy the same gender. Sexualising kids, and seeking sexual reasons why a minority exists, is...pretty standard transphobic behaviour, actually.

RoyalCorgi · 07/02/2026 10:16

"Gay" means you're attracted to people of the same sex, not the same "gender".

HTH.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 07/02/2026 10:37

RoyalCorgi · 07/02/2026 10:16

"Gay" means you're attracted to people of the same sex, not the same "gender".

HTH.

This ⬆️

Gay is homoSEXUAL as apposed to hetroSEXUAL, 'gender' doesn't even come into it. It's biology which is science.